So it is all about you? Why would you want the choice to vape in certain places to be taken away from you?
Connecticut Call to Action: Multiple bills threaten access to and use of electronic cigarettes!
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So it is all about you? Why would you want the choice to vape in certain places to be taken away from you?
Of course. I can control my addiction...It is the society we live in. I didn't vote for the nanny state politicians; most vaping activists did and are now enjoying the fruits of their votes...
I am glad that you admit that you are only concerned about yourself. It makes what you say make a lot more sense. A lot of us are concerned about other people who vape and people who currently smoke who might eventually switch to vaping.
I'm not an activist out to save the world. People fight or give up their addictions when the time is right, not through pressure from others...
I don't think I could hate vapers this much....
I'm glad to know that commercials are what drives the world, and saves us all.
Especially when those commercials come from products that aren't really all that effective at saving lives.
My point was about interpersonal interaction.
And about being an example to help others see there is a viable alternative.
You didn't address that, of course.
That's a question that has no logical answer.
So he'll ignore it.
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UPDATE:
Connecticut Call to Action was updated yesterday.
HB 5449 and HB 6290 are currently scheduled to be heard by the Joint Committee on Public Health on Wednesday, March 11th, 2015. As described below, both of these bills would limit access to, and awareness of, vapor products and severely diminish their effectiveness and appeal to adult smokers.
Please take action now by (1) planning to attend the public hearing and offering testimony, and (2) sending a message to the committee and your state lawmakers urging them to oppose these bills.
Oppose HB 6290 - Send an Email
Oppose HB 5449 - Send an Email
Link to full Call to Action: CASAA: Connecticut Call to Action: Multiple bills threaten access to and use of electronic cigarettes!
Connecticut Call to Action was updated yesterday.
HB 5449 and HB 6290 are currently scheduled to be heard by the Joint Committee on Public Health on Wednesday, March 11th, 2015. As described below, both of these bills would limit access to, and awareness of, vapor products and severely diminish their effectiveness and appeal to adult smokers.
Please take action now by (1) planning to attend the public hearing and offering testimony, and (2) sending a message to the committee and your state lawmakers urging them to oppose these bills.
Oppose HB 6290 - Send an Email
Oppose HB 5449 - Send an Email
Link to full Call to Action: CASAA: Connecticut Call to Action: Multiple bills threaten access to and use of electronic cigarettes!
Is anyone going to this hearing? I'd like to try to attend after work if that's a possibility.
being treated as a tobacco product e liquid will be subject to a 35% excise tax
I wanted to say THANK YOU to all the people who came and testified! You all did a great job and I wish I could have been there with everybody!!
For anyone interested in seeing the testimony, it starts after a nursing bill, seems to be about 2-3 hours long : CT-N: CT-N Streaming Media
For anyone interested in seeing the testimony, it starts after a nursing bill, seems to be about 2-3 hours long : CT-N: CT-N Streaming Media
Happy to report that after the public hearings held by the public health committee, they voted to draft a bill out of committee and tossed the original one. So while the initial bill would have decimated the ecig industry, the new one just seems to be a ban on vaping in specific places.
It doesn't define vaping as smoking or as tobacco products, no bans on flavors, no other restriction, standards or regulations and as in the first, no added taxation. It does define a "section 2" which is to revisit the issue after the FDA issues it's final rule to see if there is anything else they should do. That being the case, I'm sure they'll be a round two in our future LOL, but for now... not too bad at all
AN ACT REGULATING ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND VAPOR PRODUCTS.
Isn't it funny that all these laws are called "Clean indoor act of whatever", and none establish any limits for pollution of said air, but just ban smoking, and more recently, vaping?
Based on the title, I would have expected such laws to just re-affirm NIOSH/OSHA established limits and ban all factors that are known to systematically bring contaminants in properly ventilated spaces above said limits. From carpet choice to something silly as arc-welding in an office space. But no, they're never like that, they're always about smoking and nothing else. How about properly titling them "The smoking ban act" instead?
Based on the title, I would have expected such laws to just re-affirm NIOSH/OSHA established limits and ban all factors that are known to systematically bring contaminants in properly ventilated spaces above said limits. From carpet choice to something silly as arc-welding in an office space. But no, they're never like that, they're always about smoking and nothing else. How about properly titling them "The smoking ban act" instead?
The problem with this thinking is that it's basically putting e-cigarettes in the same category as tobacco. While this one is mainly just an indoor use ban, which isn't a huge deal, it opens the door for e-cigarettes to be treated exactly the same as tobacco, such as, taxes, banning of flavors.
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CT Governor signs bill (SB 6283) to ban vaping in some workplaces and public places
C G A
AN ACT REGULATING ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND VAPOR PRODUCTS.
To find CT workplaces where vaping isn’t banned, go to
Legislative Commissioners' Office of the Connecticut General Assembly
click on “Search the General Statutes”, and enter “31-40q” in the “Section Number” box.
Am surprised nobody posted updates on this CT bill since May, which may help explain why the bill passed.
C G A
AN ACT REGULATING ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND VAPOR PRODUCTS.
To find CT workplaces where vaping isn’t banned, go to
Legislative Commissioners' Office of the Connecticut General Assembly
click on “Search the General Statutes”, and enter “31-40q” in the “Section Number” box.
Am surprised nobody posted updates on this CT bill since May, which may help explain why the bill passed.
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Below is CT's current law allowing smoking (and now vaping) in certain workplaces.
Sec.31-40q.Smoking in the workplace. Designation of smoking rooms. (a) As used in this section:
(1)"Person" means one or more individuals, partnerships, associations, corporations, limited liability companies, business trusts, legal representatives or any organized group of persons.
(2)"Employer" means a person engaged in business who has employees, including the state and any political subdivision thereof.
(3)"Employee" means any person engaged in service to an employer in the business of his employer.
(4)"Business facility" means a structurally enclosed location or portion thereof at which employees perform services for their employer. The term "business facility" does not include: (A) Facilities listed in subparagraph (A), (C) or (G) of subdivision (2) of subsection (b) of section 19a-342; (B) any establishment with a permit for the sale of alcoholic liquor pursuant to section 30-23 issued on or before May 1, 2003; (C) for any business that is engaged in the testing or development of tobacco or tobacco products, the areas of such business designated for such testing or development; or (D) during the period from October 1, 2003, to April 1, 2004, establishments with a permit issued for the sale of alcoholic liquor pursuant to section 30-22a or 30-26 or the bar area of a bowling establishment holding a permit pursuant to subsection (a) of section 30-37c.
(5)"Smoking" means the burning of a lighted cigar, cigarette, pipe or any other matter or substance which contains tobacco.
(b)Each employer with fewer than five employees in a business facility shall establish one or more work areas, sufficient to accommodate nonsmokers who request to utilize such an area, within each business facility under his control, where smoking is prohibited. The employer shall clearly designate the existence and boundaries of each nonsmoking area by posting signs which can be readily seen by employees and visitors. In the areas within the business facility where smoking is permitted, existing physical barriers and ventilation systems shall be used to the extent practicable to minimize the effect of smoking in adjacent nonsmoking areas.
(c)(1)Each employer with five or more employees shall prohibit smoking in any business facility under said employer's control, except that an employer may designate one or more smoking rooms.
(2)Each employer that provides a smoking room pursuant to this subsection shall provide sufficient nonsmoking break rooms for nonsmoking employees.
(3)Each smoking room designated by an employer pursuant to this subsection shall meet the following requirements: (A) Air from the smoking room shall be exhausted directly to the outside by an exhaust fan, and no air from such room shall be recirculated to other parts of the building; (B) the employer shall comply with any ventilation standard adopted by (i) the Commissioner of Labor pursuant to chapter 571, (ii) the United States Secretary of Labor under the authority of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, as from time to time amended, or (iii) the federal Environmental Protection Agency; (C) such room shall be located in a nonwork area, where no employee, as part of his or her work responsibilities, is required to enter, except such work responsibilities shall not include any custodial or maintenance work carried out in the smoking room when it is unoccupied; and (D) such room shall be for the use of employees only.
(d)Nothing in this section may be construed to prohibit an employer from designating an entire business facility as a nonsmoking area.
Sec.31-40q.Smoking in the workplace. Designation of smoking rooms. (a) As used in this section:
(1)"Person" means one or more individuals, partnerships, associations, corporations, limited liability companies, business trusts, legal representatives or any organized group of persons.
(2)"Employer" means a person engaged in business who has employees, including the state and any political subdivision thereof.
(3)"Employee" means any person engaged in service to an employer in the business of his employer.
(4)"Business facility" means a structurally enclosed location or portion thereof at which employees perform services for their employer. The term "business facility" does not include: (A) Facilities listed in subparagraph (A), (C) or (G) of subdivision (2) of subsection (b) of section 19a-342; (B) any establishment with a permit for the sale of alcoholic liquor pursuant to section 30-23 issued on or before May 1, 2003; (C) for any business that is engaged in the testing or development of tobacco or tobacco products, the areas of such business designated for such testing or development; or (D) during the period from October 1, 2003, to April 1, 2004, establishments with a permit issued for the sale of alcoholic liquor pursuant to section 30-22a or 30-26 or the bar area of a bowling establishment holding a permit pursuant to subsection (a) of section 30-37c.
(5)"Smoking" means the burning of a lighted cigar, cigarette, pipe or any other matter or substance which contains tobacco.
(b)Each employer with fewer than five employees in a business facility shall establish one or more work areas, sufficient to accommodate nonsmokers who request to utilize such an area, within each business facility under his control, where smoking is prohibited. The employer shall clearly designate the existence and boundaries of each nonsmoking area by posting signs which can be readily seen by employees and visitors. In the areas within the business facility where smoking is permitted, existing physical barriers and ventilation systems shall be used to the extent practicable to minimize the effect of smoking in adjacent nonsmoking areas.
(c)(1)Each employer with five or more employees shall prohibit smoking in any business facility under said employer's control, except that an employer may designate one or more smoking rooms.
(2)Each employer that provides a smoking room pursuant to this subsection shall provide sufficient nonsmoking break rooms for nonsmoking employees.
(3)Each smoking room designated by an employer pursuant to this subsection shall meet the following requirements: (A) Air from the smoking room shall be exhausted directly to the outside by an exhaust fan, and no air from such room shall be recirculated to other parts of the building; (B) the employer shall comply with any ventilation standard adopted by (i) the Commissioner of Labor pursuant to chapter 571, (ii) the United States Secretary of Labor under the authority of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, as from time to time amended, or (iii) the federal Environmental Protection Agency; (C) such room shall be located in a nonwork area, where no employee, as part of his or her work responsibilities, is required to enter, except such work responsibilities shall not include any custodial or maintenance work carried out in the smoking room when it is unoccupied; and (D) such room shall be for the use of employees only.
(d)Nothing in this section may be construed to prohibit an employer from designating an entire business facility as a nonsmoking area.
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