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  1. realsis

    realsis Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2014
    California
    I just got out of the hospital yesterday during one of my tests, although I haven't smoked in 8 months they said "to be considered a non smoker I must be smoke free for a least a YEAR"!!! I said are you kidding? In three months I would be considered a non smoker because it will be a year then. ..sometimes I think we can't catch a break. We stop smoking and are still considered smoking! ! That's insane...:facepalm:
     
  2. wonner

    wonner Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2013
    USA
    That is because the rate of returning to smoking during the first year is so high.

    Can't tell you how many times I quit for 3-9 months and went back.

    And yes, 1 or 2 of those was after switching to vaping.
     
  3. vince01

    vince01 Super Member

    Sep 15, 2014
    North West England UK
    All of us ex smokers are recovering addicts and

    just like recovering alcoholics or junkies we will be

    for the rest of our lives

    it's been over 12 months for me now

    but I'm happy to be able to say

    I haven't smoked today
     
  4. Recycled Roadkill

    Recycled Roadkill Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 13, 2013
    Garland, TX
    ^^^^What he said!

    I'm happy to say that I haven't been tempted while people have smoked all around me. Many years ago I quit for a year and a half, truly cold turkey with no aids of any type. I played with fire and smoked just one and boom, I'm back to smoking again.

    I won't make that mistake ever again.
     
  5. LMS62

    LMS62 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2014
    Mesa, AZ
    I think with most Dr's offices, insurance companies, etc, one year off the analogs to be considered a non-smoker is fairly standard....unfortunately.
     
  6. supertrunker

    supertrunker Living sarcasm Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2012
    Texas
    oh - and if you vape instead of smoking, insurance companies will still regard you as a smoker unless you use 0 nic and are able to pass their tests.

    It's all about the money, Honey!

    T
     
  7. cocacola31173

    cocacola31173 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 7, 2012
    United States
    I haven't had a cig in 2 years so on medical forms I put that I am a non smoker. Its true ,,,I don't smoke.
     
  8. WillyZee

    WillyZee Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 23, 2013
    Toronto
    the next 4 months to reach 12 should be a walk in the park
     
  9. Papa_Lazarou

    Papa_Lazarou MKUltra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Well, hold on to your hat, but should any of us ex-smokers need hospital care in the future, we will most likely be labelled as smokers and it wouldn't matter if we quit vaping. My father in law passed away from mesothelioma (caused by asbestos in the lining of his lungs). Although he only smoked for 2 years and that was 50 years ago, his chart showed "Smoker".

    Perhaps it was because his affliction was respiratory related, perhaps it was a peccadillo of that particular hospital/doctor, but never the less....
     
  10. Rat2chat2

    Rat2chat2 ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 16, 2013
    Fantasy Island
    They say nicotine is no worse for you than caffeine but the insurance companies do not frown upon people who go to Starbucks. [​IMG] It seems that the smoker has always been discriminated against and always will be. As vaping becomes more popular and accepted, we will still be the center of interest because of the revenue potential our addiction affords the administration in taxes. I personally considered myself a non-smoker right after I finished that last nasty tasting cigarette 524 days ago. [​IMG]
     
  11. The Cloud Minder

    The Cloud Minder Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2014
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    You are just a dirty little smoker, sis :). Those two letters "E" and "X" in that order before "smoker" have no meaning.

    I'd like to find the farging iceholes responsible for those determinations and EXtensively EXcoriate them with EXpletives, while EXsiccating their EXtremities with EXogenous EXplosives, but I won't because unlike them, I'm not a farging icehole.
     
  12. supertrunker

    supertrunker Living sarcasm Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2012
    Texas
    The problem with quitting smoking is nobody thinks you have, although you know it and you now can blow your way out of a paper bag and feel great as a result.

    You are constantly bored by irritating people going "how is that? sucking on those chemicals? vaping away?" even though i use fewer chemicals than on the face of the latest tart they kiss goodnight.

    there will be a fitness test when we are 60. i like my chances.

    T
     
  13. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2013
    Seattle area
    Actually, according to CDC, once you've smoked your first 200 cigarettes, you will forever after be considered a smoker, no matter how long it's been since your last cigarette. :mad:
     
  14. The Cloud Minder

    The Cloud Minder Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2014
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Why not 100, or 237?

    Oh never-mind, I'm absolutely positive the Government would never pick an arbitrary number. [/sarcasm font]
     
  15. Auntie Mame

    Auntie Mame Super Member Verified Member

    I've spent two days this week getting seen and having tests at a regional med center and was very surprised that all the docs were supportive about vaping. The common comment was always something along the lines of "as long as nothing is burning and there's no smoke, no problem. Would prefer you were nicotine free but this is much better than treating a smoker". I also noticed this big red line around the center, it marked 75 feet from the nearest door-smokers had to stay on the outside of that line. In the court yard was a small area with tables and benches with stenciling on the cement that read, Vaping permitted.
     
  16. Frankieboy

    Frankieboy Full Member

    Sep 17, 2014
    London
    200 one mile long cigarettes rolled from purest strongest organically grown tobacco.
     
  17. jdeedler

    jdeedler Senior Member

    Aug 10, 2014
    Oakland, MI
    Who says that? I guess it depends on which research colleges labs results you look at and what they are testing it on. There are a lot of studies out there to read with complete results regarding the effects of Nicotine only. Until they get another decade of test results in of long term use of Nicotine only on the human body I would not say Nicotine is AS safe as Caffeine or that it is no worse physically.
     
  18. Alien Traveler

    Alien Traveler Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 3, 2014
    United States
    I have a huge experience of quitting smoking. Once I’ve been two years non-smoker. But I always missed “drink and smoke” excitement. (I’ll never quit drinking). Now I have vaping, and I have found out that drinking and vaping is almost as satisfying as drinking and smoking. It is a huge relief. Now I do not have to increase my chances to get lung cancer while being a happy citizen of a happy world. For me vaping is not an unhealthy hobby, but a least damaging way to get my nicotine boost.
     
  19. Rat2chat2

    Rat2chat2 ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 16, 2013
    Fantasy Island
    I totally concur that more studies need to be done but from everything I have read, much of which is found here on ecf, it is still my opinion that nicotine is no more harmful than caffeine. In fact, I have been impressed with the articles I have read on the health benefits. With 600 ingredients in cigarettes and 7,000 chemicals when burned, there are 69 of these chemicals that are known to cause cancer. Nicotine is not among those chemicals. So it would appear that common sense would tell anyone that vaping has to be a safer alternative to smoking. CASAA says on their brochure. . . Nicotine itself is no more dangerous to use than caffeine. It does not cause lung disease or cancer. I am confident that their statements are backed with more reliable information and research than we could ever google.

    I wish that I had never started smoking as most will agree. I wish it could have been possible for me to stop and not find an alternative dependency. I admit my own stupidity evident by the fact that I smoked for 40 some years. It appears I was never overly concerned about those 7000 chemicals so I think I will spend the rest of my life not overly concerned with just one out of the 3 or 4 I use to make my own e-liquid.

    Please know that I am not trying to be argumentative. Normally I am here for more of a "comic relief" purpose as most who know me will attest. Only stating my opinion on a subject that I quite often discuss with passion.



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  20. philoshop

    philoshop Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2014
    geneva, ny, usa
    It's a neat and tidy little blank on the page that a lot of health professionals use to absolve themselves of any future concerns when you die.
     
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