Converting 12mg juce to 18mg tips?
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Here's the formula I got from somewhere on this forum....
(mg#1 x ml#1) + (mg#2 x ml#2) divided by (ml#1 + ml#2) = total ml and total mg
Use the 54mg liquid in the #1 slots and the 12mg liquid in the #2 slots. It's easier to figure out if you dilute the 54mg than the other way around.
HINT: #1. The answers are whole numbers.
#2. If you do use the formula, using whole numbers, the smallest amount you will get will be 7ml of 18mg liquid
(mg#1 x ml#1) + (mg#2 x ml#2) divided by (ml#1 + ml#2) = total ml and total mg
Use the 54mg liquid in the #1 slots and the 12mg liquid in the #2 slots. It's easier to figure out if you dilute the 54mg than the other way around.
HINT: #1. The answers are whole numbers.
#2. If you do use the formula, using whole numbers, the smallest amount you will get will be 7ml of 18mg liquid
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My math maybe a little rusty and Ive had about 9 beers but
For 10 drops of 12mg and some X amount of drops of 54mg, you would have
=> [ ( (10 * 12) + ( X * 54) ) / ( X + 10) ] = 18
=> [ ( 120 + 54X ) / (X + 10 ) ] = 18
=> 120 + 54X = 18 ( X + 10)
=> 120 + 54X = 18X + 180
=> 54X 18X = 180 120
=> 36X = 60
=> X = .6
So if you want to use 10 Drops of 12mg, you would add .6 drops of 54mg to make 10.6 drops of 18mg.
Since .6 drops might be kinda hard to measure, why dont we just multiply both by 10.
So now if you want to use 100 Drops of 12mg, you would add 6 drops of 55mg to make 106 drops of 18mg. 106 drops would be a tad over 5ml.
Another way to think about it is that your going to use 94% 12mg to 6% 54mg to make 18mg juice for any volume measurement. Drops, ml, oz, etc...
For 10 drops of 12mg and some X amount of drops of 54mg, you would have
=> [ ( (10 * 12) + ( X * 54) ) / ( X + 10) ] = 18
=> [ ( 120 + 54X ) / (X + 10 ) ] = 18
=> 120 + 54X = 18 ( X + 10)
=> 120 + 54X = 18X + 180
=> 54X 18X = 180 120
=> 36X = 60
=> X = .6
So if you want to use 10 Drops of 12mg, you would add .6 drops of 54mg to make 10.6 drops of 18mg.
Since .6 drops might be kinda hard to measure, why dont we just multiply both by 10.
So now if you want to use 100 Drops of 12mg, you would add 6 drops of 55mg to make 106 drops of 18mg. 106 drops would be a tad over 5ml.
Another way to think about it is that your going to use 94% 12mg to 6% 54mg to make 18mg juice for any volume measurement. Drops, ml, oz, etc...
Depending on the number of drops your dropper dispenses to make 1ml will depend on the number you need to use.
For a dropper that uses 40 drops to = 1ml use:
34 drops 12mg + 6 drops 54mg to equal 1ml of 18mg
So for 10 drops use 8.5 drops 12mg and 1.5 drops 54mg to = 10 drops of 18mg
For ml's use 8.57ml of 12mg + 1.43ml of 54 to equal 10ml of 18mg
Of course it all depends on the number of drops = 1ml as to the ratio you would use. How many drops does your dropper use to make 1ml?
Dan
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I dont believe that the dropper has anything to do with how many drops are in a ml. I believe it is dependent on the surface tension of the liquid. And surface tension is a function of Viscosity, Temperature and Atmospheric Pressure.
The use of 40 drops per ml. seems kind of extreme. I believe that 20 is perhaps a more realistic value when all the liquids are averaged. Ie: PG, VG, PG/VG, Flavoring and Water.
He was obviously talking about her 54mg liquid, and the dropper she is using, while dispensing the 54mg nic juice. Furthermore, Dan's calculator has room to apply variances in liquid surface tension, depending on what he is measuring. Check it out some time.
Not all droppers are created equal and that is why you will see measures in ml and or % for recipes. These figures if not taken from resulting drops are more accurate.
Ooooo bold fonts
If you believe every dropper dispenses the exactly same amount to equal 1ml with the same liquid then you are mistaken. Each liquid through viscosity and surface tension will test differently using the exact same dropper. And using the different droppers with the same liquid will also produce different results. That is why I asked how many drops their specific dropper uses to make 1ml. 20 may be realistic depending on the dropper, the one I use is 40, that is just a fact, not an extremism. The one from cappela is 33, I actually have not had one that was ever 20 but that does not mean there is not one out there. So depending on how many drops equal 1ml there will be a greater variance between droppers as the size of the opening is different resulting in different size drops. That is why I also provided ml as it is more accurate than drops because there is such a variance in drops. And the calculator I built allows you to add the variance in drops per liquid you use. I have about 12 different droppers including pipettes and they are all different using the same liquid. Knowing that up front allows you to add a higher level of accuracy, but I would go with ml any day of the week for accuracy.
The only problem with averaging is accuracy, if you produce a great flavor/recipe it will not taste the same when you produce it in bulk i.e. 100ml because the translation from a 1ml batch using drops when averaging will not be the same when you move to 100ml using ml or %. That is why I added the ability to define the number of drops per 1ml based on the liquid. It keeps the accuracy there when moving into ml and %.
Hope this helps,
Thanks for the backup Switched.
Dan
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Agree that not all drops are the same, for the various reasons given. counting drops flatly is not a precise way to measure liquids. I use small syringes for mixing. My smallest, a 1ml syringe, is graduated down to 0.02ml, or 1/50th of a ml. Just a tiny bit more accurate than droppers.
and, yes, use one of the xls calculators, they're great. Or, create your own to your liking.
and, yes, use one of the xls calculators, they're great. Or, create your own to your liking.
I completely agree, I definently recommend ml over drops!
I just answered in drops as the OP asked for it in drops.
Dan
BTW your calculations are off, 94% of 12mg + 6% of 54mg gives you 100% 14.52mg, not 18mg.
Dan
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Are you sure Dan?I'd double check that if I were you
See attached thumbnail in previous post, and in this post, yes I have double checked it.
94 * 12 = 1128
6 * 54 = 324
1128 + 324 = 1452
94 + 6 = 100
1452 / 100 = 14.25
=SUM((F34*E34)+(F35*E35)+(F36*E36)+(F37*E37))/(E34+E35+E36+E37)
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Hey I am on my first cup of coffee here LOL, nope I didn't see the winky LOL
cheers! Too much partying last night, heheheheDan
Hope you had a good 4th Dan -------> [_]D another cup of Joe for ya!Hey I am on my first cup of coffee here LOL, nope I didn't see the winky LOL
Dan
You are correct
I should have seen a problem when 36X = 60 => X =.6
Clearly, X must be greater than 1. Unfortunately, the effects of the beers made me use 36/60 instead of 60/36.
So with revised calculations I get,
85.71% @ 12mg
14.29% @ 54mg
BTW The font is due to the fact I copy and paste from Outlook into the forum post reply box.
No problems, I can understand the beer issue
Just glad we got it straightened out.
Dan
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