Coronavirus and ordering from China

[LoveVanilla]

I have a couple of orders sitting in China waiting on release. It's too late to cancel. There's a third that's supposed to be filled from the USA warehouse of a China company. All will be allowed to sit in the garage for a few days and will get sanitized before opening and again after.

One contains four top fill kits for kayfun 2019 attys and the other contains two vaporesso Revenger Mini 85W Kits. The top fill kits can go into a dish soap solution in a bowl and the mod can get an exterior wash. I might add a little alcohol wipe down for a virus over-kill factor.

Estimated max life span on steel, glass, aluminum, etc. is 9 days (based on other coronaviruses). If you don't need right away, you can bag on receipt, and put aside for 3-4 weeks.

 

[LoveVanilla]

Were you wearing disposable gloves when you moved the package from the mailbox to the bagging? Did you wipe down the inside of your mailbox with something like a Clorox cleaning wipe after taking it out? Did you quarantine the rest of the mail in with the package as well? Are you holding the rest of your mail in quarantine for 3 weeks as it may have come into contact with packages and letters from, well, everywhere?

1) Invert bag over hand, pick up the package, and hold at distance while sealing. Wash hands, 2) no, and 3) advertisement/flyers into the bin. Want to keep the home as a sanctuary. Today our school district extended Spring Break another week (I expect this will also be extended), and the county held a press conference at midnight to announce community spread and to ban large gatherings. Read up on Spanish flu of 1918. This is the real deal and maybe worse.

 

[englishmick]

Estimated max life span on steel, glass, aluminum, etc. is 9 days (based on other coronaviruses). If you don't need right away, you can bag on receipt, and put aside for 3-4 weeks.

I read this morning some experts think it can survive on plastic for longer periods. Possibly weeks. This wasn't based on testing since they haven't had enough time yet to know for sure. It was based on previous experience.

 

[LoveVanilla]

I read this morning some experts think it can survive on plastic for longer periods. Possibly weeks. This wasn't based on testing since they haven't had enough time yet to know for sure. It was based on previous experience.

Agree, estimates are based on other coronaviruses. Time is longer longer when damp or cold, and on porous surfaces like paper and cardboard. Without immediate need, personally bagging four weeks. Otherwise 91% alcohol soak for 20-30 minutes. Rather overshoot than undershoot. Several risk categories within family.

 

[Koolkiz]

The rehab/nursing facility where I work has shut down all entrances/access for visitors. They have to enter though main entrance now. They are limited to short visits and must sign in to proceed. No cases yet but smart plan in case they bring in the virus. This virus is mainly spread though droplet (like TB).
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiIovnm4pfoAhVbZM0KHcD-DQAQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission.html&usg=AOvVaw1jL168BqzFqpjVUQQbS0Hb

I'm not worried yet and I'm immune compromised and a nurse. I'm more worried about obtaining everyday grocery items.
Edit: I will be tested asap if I feel I've been exposed. The work place should offer testing but who knows at this point. My hospital and primary doctor is 5 miles away.

 

[zoiDman]

10 Minutes to Find a Parking Space. Check
No Shopping Carts Left. Check.
Shelves Starting to get Thin in Places. Empty in Others. Check.
Forty Foot Checkout Lines. Check.
The New Normal for Grocery Shopping. Check?

LOL

 

[chellie]

I was going to order some stuff from fasttech and saw this on the website.

"Service alert: the ongoing coronavirus spread is placing China under defecto lockdown.
Local labor policy currently prevents staffs from returning to work as scheduled.
Customer service is available with limited capacity at this time as we work from home.
Shipping is now expected to resume normal service on February 10, 2020. More details to follow"


Is anyone worried about ordering from China?

You are disagreeing with a question? Whatever --rightback at ya

 

[chellie]

This is no theory, it said that the evidence is irrefutable. So who am I to refute it, no one that’s who. Not to mention the pics of documentation that prove those sneaky Chinese were up to no good.
Oh and to address the OP, I’m not worried. It did cross my mind when I opened the package I received from China the other day but only momentarily. It was like, “I wonder if the Coronavirus could live on my package and get me infected?” Then I quickly forgot about it and went on with my day. I don’t know the incubation period for this disease but if I get it in the near future I’ll let y’all know so you can spray some Lysol on your Chinese vape mail.

When I rec'd the mesh decks I sprayed the envelopes with Lysol and the decks and after that set I opened the packages and washed everything. lol

 

[Bradystoff]

I havent noticed any sort of delay since they all returned to work from the "Chinese new year" that pushed a couple orders back like 3 weeks or so but since then ive been recieving packages all along. I placed two new orders on Thurs and Fri morning so we shall see. 3avape told me no delays currently. Recieved one from Everzon Fri morning. Hopefully these last two go through without a hitch, it was my final stock up orders and were quit large. I'll be good one juice but I got more DIY just in case. Along with some rebuildables and supplies. I've deff accumulated an impressive stash of juice lol every time i open my closet I get all tingly inside like christmas morning. My friends like to treat it like the local discount vape shop but ive been tightening up on it the last month or so.

 

[Rossum]

10 Minutes to Find a Parking Space. Check
No Shopping Carts Left. Check.
Shelves Starting to get Thin in Places. Empty in Others. Check.
Forty Foot Checkout Lines. Check.
The New Normal for Grocery Shopping. Check?

I doubt it. People only have a certain amount of space in their pantries and freezers. Once they're full, things will settle down.

Spoiler

My wife and I beat the rush; we finished filling ours last weekend.

 

[Myrany]

I doubt it. People only have a certain amount of space in their pantries and freezers. Once they're full, things will settle down.

Spoiler

My wife and beat the rush; we finished filling ours last weekend.

I did a basic weekly shopping run early yesterday morning for fresh foods and it was already starting to get a bit nuts. Guy in front of me in line had 40 cases of water piled into multiple carts and what complaining because no one would help him with it (this is very much a self serve type store where they do not carry groceries for you). I hear 2 hours later in the day the store was packed beyond belief.

I plan to continue my weekly marketing for fresh stuff until I can't. That will preserve my pantry for as long as possible and help to keep me from blowing my diet out of the water thanks to this.

Honestly I am not worried about packages from china. Anything on them will likely die before they get here. If I was worried it would be from domestic mail handling.

Mind you with the hubby being a teacher odds are we either already have or will be exposed. So I just am not getting all that bent about all this.

 

[MacTechVpr]

I'm prepping for the preppers.

Good luck.

 

[LoveVanilla]

Just FYI, based on several studies:

The authors of the Journal of Hospital Infection study noted that human coronaviruses could be "efficiently inactivated" on surfaces within one minute if they're cleaned with solutions containing 62% to 71% 91% ethanol alcohol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide, or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite.

Other disinfectants are demonstrably less effective. Also, incorrectly:

Graham said these surface disinfectants could even work within 15 seconds. She added, "To get the kill rates advertised on the packaging, though, that usually involves waiting for several minutes — between five minutes and six minutes."

For certainty, disinfect using one of the above for 15-20 minutes. This virus continues to defy expectations. Remember that:

...researchers also found that one strain of SARS lasted up to nine days on a plastic surface at room temperature.

Also:

...alcohol-based hand sanitizer is not ideal for disinfecting hard surfaces because the alcohol content is not high enough.

Hand sanitizer is meant to lower how much of the infection is on your hands "without stripping your skin of all its oils and moisture,"

And finally:

Don’ts
Don’t rely on DIY recipes based solely on essential oils. They won’t work.

Don’t be conservative with your sanitizer, even if you’re down to one small travel-size bottle. For it to work, you need to cover every surface of both hands entirely with the sanitizer and rub until dry, according to the C.D.C.

Don’t use any hand sanitizer on greasy or dirty hands; it’s less effective, according to the C.D.C.

Don’t assume all anti-bacterial wipes will do the job. Benzalkonium chloride, the active ingredient in Wet Ones, was found to be less effective than ethanol (as in alcohol, the active ingredient in some sanitizers), hydrogen peroxide, or sodium hypochlorite on coronaviruses in an analysis of 22 studies published in February 2020.


Don’t expect baby wipes to work as well as handwashing or hand sanitizer. Baby wipes don’t have alcohol in them, and rubbing won’t remove germs from your hands the way simple soap and clean running water can.

 

[zoiDman]

... My wife and I beat the rush; we finished filling ours last weekend.

I Did also. This trip was more to give My Mom more peace of mind. Double (Tripling) up on a Few things that probably weren't needed

What becomes a Concern is when the Schools start to Close.

The Work Force/Production Output is going to take a Hit Anyway. But if Kids now Can't go to School, someone is going to have to be at Home to take care of them. So it's kinda a Double Whammy.

 

[Myrany]

I Did also. This trip was more to give My Mom more peace of mind. Double (Tripling) up on a Few things that probably weren't needed

What becomes a Concern is when the Schools start to Close.

The Work Force/Production Output is going to take a Hit Anyway. But if Kids now Can't go to School, someone is going to have to be at Home to take care of them. So it's kinda a Double Whammy.

Our schools here closed state wide until after Easter, announcement made yesterday. Teachers however still have to go to work. Schools closing long term like this has some additional problems that few are talking about.

Yes someone needs to watch the kids and that IS a problem but who is that person likely to be. Around here its the grandparents or great grandparents. Who is the most vulnerable to the virus?

Also in this area something like 80% of school kids get free or reduced breakfast and lunch. For many that is their food for the day. How do they eat now?

Frankly I am more worried about those kinds of things than an extra pack of TP.

Also for us vapers the window is fast closing before the May cutoff. Now many are diverting the funds they counted on to finish vape stocking to virus prep. Come May things are going to get ugly for many.

 

[englishmick]

Our schools here closed state wide until after Easter, announcement made yesterday. Teachers however still have to go to work. Schools closing long term like this has some additional problems that few are talking about.

Yes someone needs to watch the kids and that IS a problem but who is that person likely to be. Around here its the grandparents or great grandparents. Who is the most vulnerable to the virus?

Yeah, I'm waiting for that one to land myself. Our GD is a teacher, with a 6 year old. GD has to go to school, GGD doesn't. That is probably down to us since her parents are out of the picture. Two oldies with dodgy lungs.

 

[440BB]

Our schools here closed state wide until after Easter, announcement made yesterday. Teachers however still have to go to work. Schools closing long term like this has some additional problems that few are talking about.

Yes someone needs to watch the kids and that IS a problem but who is that person likely to be. Around here its the grandparents or great grandparents. Who is the most vulnerable to the virus?

Also in this area something like 80% of school kids get free or reduced breakfast and lunch. For many that is their food for the day. How do they eat now?

Frankly I am more worried about those kinds of things than an extra pack of TP.

Also for us vapers the window is fast closing before the May cutoff. Now many are diverting the funds they counted on to finish vape stocking to virus prep. Come May things are going to get ugly for many.

Detroit public schools, which are closed, will continue their free breakfast and lunch programs nonetheless. A wise move to help those kids that really need it.

 

[zoiDman]

...

Also in this area something like 80% of school kids get free or reduced breakfast and lunch. For many that is their food for the day. How do they eat now?

...

A Very Good Point.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Detroit public schools, which are closed, will continue their free breakfast and lunch programs nonetheless. A wise move to help those kids that really need it.

They're doing that in GA as well.

All metro ATL school systems announced closings beginning Monday. I don't know how so many hourly people that rely on daycare are going to do this. Even if they have access to daycare, many of their employers may be shutting down. It's going to be a huge impact, and I know a lot of people are really scared, and wondering where their next dollar will come from.

Myself- my company does business with schools and daycares (which are all also shut down), so as of Monday, we have zero revenue, for who knows how long. My non-office contract employees will have no income from us, and many of them are young, living paycheck to paycheck. I'm not in a position to offer assistance to them- there are far too many.

I'll be okay (assuming this only lasts about a month or so), but I do worry about so many of those people, and wondering how they'll deal with it. The impact of this is going to be absolutely huge. I anticipate this to be a watershed event like 9/11, forcing change to so many things in the aftermath.

So I'm not afraid of the virus itself, really. I'm confident that will be under control fairly soon. I had H1N1 when it came around, and that wasn't so bad (yes, I know it's not the same). And I'm healthy now, so that's not a huge worry. But I am worried about the impact of the virus.

 

[DaveP]

My two Vaporesso Revenger Mini 85W mods are out for delivery from EightVape today (Saturday). They were ordered on Thursday. I'm impressed!

Now we'll see how long it takes for my two Pico 21700's to get here from VapeSourcing's Hong Kong warehouse. I probably won't open the China boxes for a couple of weeks. I'm thinking that a session with a heat blower wouldn't be overkill.