Correct 1ml Syringes?

[Alien Traveler]

I'm lazy as well and use the same syringe for flavors and usually measure my base via cylinder. I do use seperate syringes for flavor and base when not a lot of base is needed (10ml samples). I keep a bottle of water on hand and keep rinsing from the bottle between flavors at my mixing station. When done then I take them to the sink and give them a good washing. I'm not that .... about my mixes and have never noticed a problem with cross contamination between flavors.

Thanks. Good to know. In flavors I am just a beginner and was extra cautions.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

There are pluses as mentioned to both types (Plastic and glass) Was thinking of getting a glass 1ml syringe myself. Ebay has some for far less then 10.00 ea.

5 x Cute Mini 1ml Glass Syringe Lab Glassware | eBay

Ah yea i saw some like those and was really tempted to buy them but they are shipping from China and I was impatient and wanted them pretty much now so i found some in the US Someone was coming to visit in me so just had it delivered to them in the US then they brought them to me about 3 days later so it worked out.
I do still use the plastic ones for the PG/VG/Nic but the glass for the flavors is really working out for me.

 

[iamthevoice]

That is exactly right I paid the same for 200 plastic ones ones but if mine are taken care of I will still have it when you run out of yours. Heck I could have these for years; so who got a better deal? You will order more and I will not. Matter of opinion isn't it? As many of you know some of these flavors will not come out of plastic. And to go a step further, when you throw yours away where do they go? I thought about it and I made my own decision to use the glass over plastic. I was using plastic before and it was a PITA for me to keep them in order. TO ME this made my DIYing easier. To each his own.

You might consider standard glass syringes instead of the chromatography ones, which tend to be much pricier! But I completely second your point about using glass syringes!

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

You might consider standard glass syringes instead of the chromatography ones, which tend to be much pricier! But I completely second your point about using glass syringes!

I really didn't pick a "chromatography" syringe like "I want exactly that". But I was looking for one that had a Luer Lock tip as I have a bunch of Luer Lock needles already. If you have a link for a 1ml - 2ml glass syringe with a Luer Lock tip from a US based company I'd love to see it. I remember scrambling around to find to one before my visitor was ready to leave. I even poked around a bit just now and still don't see one. I do see on the Air-Tite site the same one for a couple of bucks cheaper but not a huge difference. And these syringes are very nicely made. I am way happy with them.

 

[cjcaddy]

1 ml glass syringe 1.50
2 ml. 1.65
5 ml 1.80
1ml Glass Syringe

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

1 ml glass syringe 1.50
2 ml. 1.65
5 ml 1.80
1ml Glass Syringe

Those are from a Canadian shop no? And they are exactly like the ones in the EBay link ... I wonder where they got them?! LOL But they also aren't Luer Lock either. I am telling you they were not all that easy to find.

 

[DaveP]

FWIW, 14ga needles are my favorite. Juice draws and flows easily. 20ga is so tight with eliquids that it's almost impossible to draw enough vacuum to fill the syringe and 18ga is barely big enough for use most juices.

Luer-lock syringes are some of the best I've found. The twist lock needle attachment is much more reliable than the press fit designs, IMO.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

Luer-lock syringes are some of the best I've found. The twist lock needle attachment is much more reliable than the press fit designs, IMO.

And that is exactly why I did want those to go with my Luer Lock needles.

And apologies to the OP ... didn't mean to hijack the thread going on about glass vs plastic ...

 

[dannyv45]

$12 syringe was a chromatography syringe – for very specialized application and because of it much more expensive than usual glass syringe.
It’s true that glass syringe have some advantages, but I just do not like them. On my work I have boxes of plastic and glass syringes but I use only plastic ones – I like to have as little glass as possible on a bench or in a fume hood.

I most likely may wind up agreeing with you but as I never worked with glass syringes I figure at that price why not give it a try. If they don't work out not much of a loss.

 

[dannyv45]

Ah yea i saw some like those and was really tempted to buy them but they are shipping from China and I was impatient and wanted them pretty much now so i found some in the US Someone was coming to visit in me so just had it delivered to them in the US then they brought them to me about 3 days later so it worked out.
I do still use the plastic ones for the PG/VG/Nic but the glass for the flavors is really working out for me.

I have 100 or so plastic syringes so I'm not in a hurry. I order a lot from China so I'm used to the wait.

 

[David1975]

David, just FYI, the measurements on beakers are (or can be) wildly inaccurate. I don't know how picky you are, but measurements on beakers can be off by 5-10 ml or so (the larger the beaker, the more inaccurate, generally). This is what I learned in many years of lab work. For measuring large volumes we would never use a beaker, only a graduated cylinder, volumetric flask, or weight. For estimates of volume, a beaker is okay. If your juice is turning out fine, then it's not a problem, but it just thought I'd mention it.

Thank you for that info. I've not had any problems with my juice, but I will be checking the beakers and adjusting the lines (if need be)..... just because the juice is good, doesn't mean it can't be better
The only reason I got away from the graduated cylinder and turned to beakers was the ease of mixing the liquid (stirring the blend). In a cylinder, the VG tends to "sink" to the bottom, you end up with a striping affect where all the ingredients sit 1 on top of the other. This is fine if you were to transfer all of the content to 1 bottle for mixing/storing, but when dividing it up into 15/30/60 ml bottles.... not so much. I looked for a rubber stopper or such to plug the top so I could shake mix everything, but never did find a good solution. Any ideas you have to "fix" this would be greatly appreciated

 

[Rickajho]

That seems steep to me $10 for one syringe but that would be perfect for stuff like banana I'm sure....

So, you paid for 2 syringes as much as for 200plastic ones. I'd rather buy plastic syringes and throw them away after single use; no washing at all.

But you only by them once, aren't battling fading markings with use, and aren't developing yet another pile in the landfill.

 

[Rickajho]

Hmmm... What about this one? => 1ml Glass Sampler Luer Lock Tip Syringe 1CC Injector | eBay

It's 1 ml - so that's still on topic right?

But for people who have used glass, does that tip look luer-locky? They say it's luer lock but having only used plastic so far - don't know what the glass ones are supposed to look like. (They don't show that end of things on the Grainger site.) Does that end cap remove to expose the lock area?

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

Those are from China too. I found TONS of them from China on EBay, Amazon, and Alibaba and all super cheap. The metal tip on the end is the Luer Lock. Luer Lock basically means screw on and not push on (slip tip). So you need to use Luer Lock needles with them which i have a bunch of them. Not sure what you are looking at on the Grainger site but it does show the tip on the link i posted. The needles screw onto the end so no air gets in and are very secure. It won't fly off if you apply too much pressure to the plunger, knock it against something accidentally or for any other reason. Like i said i like them a lot at this point and glad i did get them. I was using plastic ones before so I do know what it is like to work with them.

I just keep a bowl of warm water near me and rinse them out in while I am mixing. Which I will be doing tonight cuz I got Vape Mail today!! 8 new yummy delicious flavors to try out. well 7 of the 8 smell super yummy

 

[Cellodick]

So, you paid for 2 syringes as much as for 200plastic ones. I'd rather buy plastic syringes and throw them away after single use; no washing at all.

That's not really so great for the environment. But to each his own. I'm Imagining everyone throwing away 200 syringes........ What a mess. Plastic waste is evil. Reuse is good.


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[Rickajho]

That seems steep to me $10 for one syringe but that would be perfect for stuff like banana I'm sure....

So, you paid for 2 syringes as much as for 200plastic ones. I'd rather buy plastic syringes and throw them away after single use; no washing at all.

Those are from China too. I found TONS of them from China on EBay, Amazon, and Alibaba and all super cheap. The metal tip on the end is the Luer Lock. Luer Lock basically means screw on and not push on (slip tip). So you need to use Luer Lock needles with them which i have a bunch of them. Not sure what you are looking at on the Grainger site but it does show the tip on the link i posted. The needles screw onto the end so no air gets in and are very secure. It won't fly off if you apply too much pressure to the plunger, knock it against something accidentally or for any other reason. Like i said i like them a lot at this point and glad i did get them. I was using plastic ones before so I do know what it is like to work with them.

I just keep a bowl of warm water near me and rinse them out in while I am mixing. Which I will be doing tonight cuz I got Vape Mail today!! 8 new yummy delicious flavors to try out. well 7 of the 8 smell super yummy

On Grainger all I saw was a single photo with the needle end of things pointed away in the shot.

On the eBay one if you scroll down the listing they do show a photo of the end of things with the metal "cap" being a two piece assembly that comes apart. The Grainger one appears to be the same but - dunno - they don't show it.

Just trying to understand how luer lock works on the glass ones as it seems quite different that the simpler "push & twist" you do with the plastic luer locks.

 

[Boletus]

How easy is it to break the glass ones, I wonder. I am a bit of a Fumble Fingers, so maybe plastic is best for me.

 

[zoiDman]

I would Only Recommend purchasing "Luer" Lock Syringes.

As for size? A 15ga Blunt Needle should be Able to Handle even Pure VG.

BTW - The Color of the Luer Lock is NOT Standardized. So you Can't go by Color when looking for a Gauge.

 

[Spazmelda]

Thank you for that info. I've not had any problems with my juice, but I will be checking the beakers and adjusting the lines (if need be)..... just because the juice is good, doesn't mean it can't be better
The only reason I got away from the graduated cylinder and turned to beakers was the ease of mixing the liquid (stirring the blend). In a cylinder, the VG tends to "sink" to the bottom, you end up with a striping affect where all the ingredients sit 1 on top of the other. This is fine if you were to transfer all of the content to 1 bottle for mixing/storing, but when dividing it up into 15/30/60 ml bottles.... not so much. I looked for a rubber stopper or such to plug the top so I could shake mix everything, but never did find a good solution. Any ideas you have to "fix" this would be greatly appreciated

I don't mix juice in graduated cylinders because I feel that too much 'sticks' to the sides and takes to olong to drain out, for this reason I prefer syringes, even though they are probably not quite as accurate.

In the lab, to mix things in graduated cylinders we would use parafilm over the top. Parafilm is this amazing stuff, like a wax Saran Wrap. You stretch it a bit, then put it over the mouth of the bottle/cylinder/beaker. As long as the mouth of the vessel is dry, the parafilm makes a great seal. Put one hand over the top to keep it from bulging and coming loose, and invert repeatedly to mix. For things that required long mixing in a grad cylinder, we'd either put in a magnetic stir bar (if the cylinder was big enough) and mix on a stir plate, or cover with parafilm and put on a rocking platform. Kind of overkill for juice making, but I'd love a magnetic stir plate!

Parafilm comes in handy in juice making for other things too. I use it to seal my working nicotine bottles. Stretch a bit around the bottle cap, similar to how shrink wrap would work, but no heat needed. You could do the same for juice bottles to make sure they don't leak.

added note: the awesomeness of parafilm is so great, that every lab I've ever worked in has had to admonish workers and students not to steal the stuff. I know in some labs it's tightly guarded, lol. You can find it on amazon though. Handy stuff. We've just used some to fix a plumbing problem in my kid's bathroom. It's like the duct tape of the lab.