Cotton wick unexplained

[whoaitsruss]

@who...I also agree w/ moody that OP wick has too much cotton.

My cotton is the 99.99 percent.
I think I know whats going on.
The individual fibers could well be expanding.
My finished wick is very fluffy; can see daylight through it.
I suspect the fluffy wick sometimes sags under the weight of heavy liquid and become smaller even though individual fibers expanded.
It does wick quick; that's why I love it.

Is it possible if you or anyone can take a picture and show me how much organic cotton is just right for a micro coil before the wick and after when rolling the wick I just want to get a visual idea on what is just right amount of cotton... Most pictures I've seen are the cotton already in the coil I want to see before putting in the coil


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[emus]

Is it possible if you or anyone can take a picture and show me how much organic cotton is just right for a micro coil before the wick and after when rolling the wick I just want to get a visual idea on what is just right amount of cotton... Most pictures I've seen are the cotton already in the coil I want to see before putting in the coil


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[Ryedan]

My air hole is pretty big and just recently got drilled another one on the opposite side
My juice is 75vg/25pg as I was told
I decided to make a higher ohm 1.9 -2.0 and I want to see if the slow burn will help out my wick and the drags I take on it

You don't want another air hole on the opposite side if there is no coil there. It will split the air flow, so each hole is moving half of the total air. I would try a bit of tape over it next time and see if that helps. How big are the air holes?

So, how do you know that the cotton has burnt in the middle? I usually replace my wicks every 3 - 5 days. The performance does change a bit after a few hours but after that it stays the same for days. My wicks are always burnt in the middle by the time I replace them, but I have no idea how quickly that happens. If I wait too long, vape performance really degrades.

Couple of pics of my Trident setup. 1/16" inside diameter 27 gauge coils at 1 ohm each. My air holes are quite high in the cap which is why I have the coils so high. All that matters is that the coils are in the air flow path.

ETA: I just changed my wicks in the Trident and had a good at them when I took them out. They are not burnt in the middle. The cotton just pulls apart easily as I take them out and there is a bit of a black mark in the center.

 

[emus]

I have more luck wicking 3/16" than 1/16"
I had luck w/ 1/16" diamond coil; much faster wicking than standard micro..
I'm having luck w/ 1/16" diamond minus one side.
Next experiment is 1/16" dual v-coils.
I'm vaping side by side 1/16" coil and 3/16" coil. 3/16" is winning but builds not same. I thought 1/16" was supposed to be more efficient but not what I'm experiencing in crude test.

3/16" coil heavily used for a couple weeks:

 

[Ryedan]

I have more luck wicking 3/16" than 1/16"
I had luck w/ 1/16" diamond coil; much faster wicking than standard micro..
I'm having luck w/ 1/16" diamond minus one side.
Next experiment is 1/16" dual v-coils.
I'm vaping side by side 1/16" coil and 3/16" coil. 3/16" is winning but builds not same. I thought 1/16" was supposed to be more efficient but not what I'm experiencing in crude test.

3/16" coil heavily used for a couple weeks:

That coil and wick looks really clean emus! I'm betting your juice is very clean 'burning' or the coil would be a lot more gunked up even with better wicking. I have not tried a 3/16" ID coil with coils touching. I made one that diameter early on without coils touching and then I tried a 1/16" micro coil and loved it. I tend not to mess with success once I find it, but maybe some more experimentation is in order .

 

[emus]

That coil and wick looks really clean emus! I'm betting your juice is very clean 'burning' or the coil would be a lot more gunked up even with better wicking. I have not tried a 3/16" ID coil with coils touching. I made one that diameter early on without coils touching and then I tried a 1/16" micro coil and loved it. I tend not to mess with success once I find it, but maybe some more experimentation is in order .

I burn unflavored in tanks. I bought a total of 15 SS CE2s and used only 8 after about 2 years full time use. Before RBA my vape spending was a few pennies per day. I'm pretty sure I'll wean mod spending after today's order; or else I have a vaping problem.

I use RDAs and IGO-F for flavors; easier to clear out flavor residue.

 

[whoaitsruss]

I notice that ur wicks of cotton are not twisted or don't look like they have been rolled does that help the juice travel faster thru the cotton?


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[savagemann]

I notice that ur wicks of cotton are not twisted or don't look like they have been rolled does that help the juice travel faster thru the cotton?


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I'm not answering for Emus, but I never roll my wicks.
If you have to roll them, you are using too much cotton.
they should slide right through the coil without rolling.
If they tug the coil upon insertion, you are using too much cotton.
I keep posting these pictures when people ask about wicks. I think it is a fairly good representation of how a proper wick should look in a dripper before adding juice.
This was one of the first cotton wick setups I had tried, after some reading through the forums. I have been setting them up about the same every time since I started dripping and have yet to have a single issue.
This was from before I started using micro coils, but the wick setup hasn't changed.
If I have time, I've been meaning to make a video

 

[savagemann]

BTW, it is normal for your wicks to get darker under the coil, if you are using a dark or sweet juice.
Now, if your coil is burning the wick in half, then you either have too much cotton, not enough air flow, or are not keeping the wick wet enough.
If after a few puffs your vape changes and starts to taste dry, you waited too long to drip.

 

[JamezC]

I had this problem before as well, like all the above posters have mentioned you were probably using too much. I know I used to have a habit of using WAY too much cotton, just remember less is more

 

[whoaitsruss]

I'm not answering for Russ, but I never roll my wicks.
If you have to roll them, you are using too much cotton.
they should slide right through the coil without rolling.
If they tug the coil upon insertion, you are using too much cotton.
I keep posting these pictures when people ask about wicks. I think it is a fairly good representation of how a proper wick should look in a dripper before adding juice.
This was one of the first cotton wick setups I had tried, after some reading through the forums. I have been setting them up about the same every time since I started dripping and have yet to have a single issue.
This was from before I started using micro coils, but the wick setup hasn't changed.
If I have time, I've been meaning to make a video

Let me kno when that video comes out I would love more knowledge

I decided to recoil and rewick I'm going to try everyone's input that I just recieved

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[savagemann]

Let me kno when that video comes out I would love more knowledge

I decided to recoil and rewick I'm going to try everyone's input that I just recieved

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Will do Russ.
In my first post, I meant ro say " I'm not answering for Emus" but I said Russ.
Anyways, let us know if you have any luck.
Also, what kind of cotton and juice are you using Russ?

 

[whoaitsruss]

Will do Russ.
In my first post, I meant ro say " I'm not answering for Emus" but I said Russ.
Anyways, let us know if you have any luck.
Also, what kind of cotton and juice are you using Russ?

Organic balls and 75vg/25pg



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[suspectK]

Put your coil down lower to see if that helps with wicking on that thicker liquid.

I don't roll my cotton before I use it. I twist the end to get it through, but I don't get any surprises if I leave it loose.

 

[whoaitsruss]

After letting it saturate and hearing how much cotton expands and all
Is this still to much cotton???


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[suspectK]

I can't tell, but when you have too much cotton, the wick gets a lip on ends of coil. When it's saturated, you want to be able to barely pull it through, but not so much resistance that it moves your coil.

 

[whoaitsruss]

It has been going thru the coil with no resistance or tugging on the coil slips
I've been twisting one side only just to get it thru.... I'm starting to think its due to taking drags one after the other like 3 drags in a row than stop or 1 deep lung drag is whats causing all the burning


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[muzichead]

In the pics you have above, the left side coming out of your coil seems to have a shoulder on it and that will be just enough to choke off the coil.

 

[Gr8Scott]

It seems that many are using cotton balls. Perhaps cotton yarn might solve things here. From all that I have gathered in this thread it appears that the coils are looking great but the wick is failing. You will be surprised at how cotton yarn shrinks when its wet ! ( I also have heard that 100% cotton embroidery thread works really well, but I haven't gotten around to trying it myself yet. This might be optimal though as we are contending with diameter factors)

Get a length of 100% cotton yarn (2 or three feet) boil it for 10 minutes to get all the nasty-making-taste residue off. Make sure you tie a knot in each end so it doesn't fray.

Get the yarn out before you pour off the water so you don't re-impregnate it with what you boiled off. Then tie one end on a dry dishcloth and throw it in the dryer for a few minutes.

Now you should have wick that won't taste like "Ick"

Wet it with saliva or water, twist and twist and twist between your fingers( in one direction only; otherwise it's going to roll/unroll.) It'll get very very thin.

You should have a pointy tip; guide that tip through the first ring in the coil in a slow twisting motion. You gotta do this slow and easy. As it twists it should thread through the coil no problem.

Now, once you have enough through the last coil ring, with your thumb and index finger of each hand pinch the opposite sides of the wick gently.Twist a 1/4 or 1/2 turn in the opposite direction of which you threaded the wick.
It should expand just enough now to keep it from sliding out.

Saturate it with juice. (I would decrease the VG %, though)

Also the beginning and ending rings are notorious for de-forming when you connect your coil legs to your posts. Stay aware of that.


I know this isn't picture or video but hopefully it helps

 

[muzichead]

It has been going thru the coil with no resistance or tugging on the coil slips
I've been twisting one side only just to get it thru.... I'm starting to think its due to taking drags one after the other like 3 drags in a row than stop or 1 deep lung drag is whats causing all the burning


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Hopefully this link will help you to understand what the cotton inside a coil should look like after is as saturated with liquid. These are some of the more impressive photo's I have seen. The first of the four is actually a pic looking through the drip tip hole in the top cap and captures the coil and wick in place. Very impressive to say the least...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ncrease-vapor-flavor-th-436.html#post11696418