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That's what's the mystery that causes me to believe my tongue isn't effected in the least by smoking.
Was getting great and full flavor on the Cisco - beautiful.
Turned right around and tested many other devices while vaping the Cisco, because I'm like that.
Horrible results.
Cigarettes all in between.
None of the results changed.

I made sure to do this particular test while vaping the Cisco to ensure that smoking wasn't the cause.

First, I vaped the Cisco. Then vaped the Aspire and a bunch of other things. Compared the flavor, realized all those other devices are..... manure.

Then, as a double-blind test, I smoked a cigarette.

Came back, still the same result. Godly Cisco. Manure everywhere else.

Did the cigarette test one more time.

Again, godly Cisco.

The Cisco, after like an hour of not smoking a cigarette, finally went caput because I was using NET's and everything else, at 3.5ohms at 4.1V's. Already have said before that I know that's what gunked it. The gunk was even pretty GOOD with tobacco juices til then. Never tasted like a sock.

That's the vaping standard right there! :toast: *exception being only an hour of performance*
 
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it takes days sometimes weeks for your body to fully adjust to vaping not an hour, every hour without a cigarette your senses will be up in the air changing on the fly without warning.
Took me 3 weeks to settle down but even now, 5+ months into this my tastes are still changing.
 

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I quit smoking two months ago. My taste buds are STILL adjusting to this day. No way that just not smoking a cigarette for a few hours eliminates that as a contributing factor in your experiments OP. Have you ever stopped to question yourself when multitudes of different people tell you the same thing? I know I do. I usually come to the conclusion that I'm wrong when many other people are telling me something different then I thought. How could anyone not stop to question themselves in such a scenario? If you are right in this, and we are all wrong, then the only other possible explanation is that there's a massive conspiracy among the vaping community to keep you from a good vaping experience. In which case, why bother with us at all then?
 

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For me, the only reason I'm posting any of this is to A. Explain and question why I get a "dusty" vape if a coil is really acting up on silica, hemp, or cotton [yet, from what I can tell, not doing it on a wickless coil], and B. If it's true that my bad tastes may be coming from Kanthal or NiChrome, I'd assume the chemical deposits (or just gunk) from those wires would need a more solid particle to travel with, rather than just H20 particles, which are probably what flavoring particles travel with.

That's really all I'm doing this for, you guys. It's not some big war. It's serious scientific questions that I've only ever wanted a bit of research and depth on. For whatever I ever make up on this forum, it has to be said that not many folks have provided any sort of studies or links or self-tests. I need that as much as you guys do (and trust me, we're all getting mad at each other for the same reason - just because the theories and advice goes back and forth without either of all of us getting the proper information across or, well, with me, getting a good vaping result...)

I mean, my general tests seem to prove that certain materials give me a dusty vape. This dusty vape doesn't always correlate with a bad taste (but always does correlate with coughing, asthma, or sneeszing). Yet, a bad taste, for me, never happens without the vape also being very dusty. It's as though one factor requires the other, but not the other way around.

The bad tastes don't happen all the time (well...), and the dusty vape sure doesn't happen all the time, it's just experiences I've experienced at a very large rate, and I want to share and inquire.
Most people clean their atomizers before use, to remove cutting oils, dirt, grime, etc.

This has been suggested to you before.

^Just a little update about the meaning of the Newton!

I mean really, none of ya'll told me to offset a seemingly hot coil or hot vapor with a VG juice, and that itl'll only work with a device that has pretty grand wickflow gaps...
...Just asking why. Why, why, why, why, why. I'm worse than a darn 4-year old. I'll happily admit it. Ya'll ain't telling me all that much about myself that I don't know. I'm just still in the "why" phase because Monday, RDA day, isn't coming fast enough!!!
"Grand wickflow gaps." What the...?
...You are right about one thing, RDA day can't come soon enough; for you and everyone else.
I just don't have an over-inflated ego, I have a point-fun-at-myself-and-compare-myself-to-old-age-idiots-who-happened-to-be-smart-basically-by-dumb-luck-and-some-downright-slightly-controlled-idiotic-testing-but-brung-valid-points-to-the-world ego. Like Issac Newton lol...
Your posts often come across as condescending, whether you mean them to or not. So do mine at times, but at least I'm honest about it.
If you are vaping in a dusty environment, I bet you'll get a dusty, gunked up vape.

Just sayin'.
This has been tested and confirmed. Most "gunk" on coils is usually normal airborne dust that gets sucked in every time a person vapes. This is easily confirmed by vaping straight PG. PG vapes residue-free, so any residue on the coil and wick is coming from an external source.
Because thread is now serious thread again, according to me.

Someone did propose the idea of myself not liking the taste of PG gunk on the coils, even on another thread, but I never saw an explaination that satisfied me as to why I could be mistaking PG gunk with dust, or why the PG gunk forms to begin with? Too high ohms? Not enough/too much wicking? An uneven coil? What is something that could cause this to happen?

Maybe someone could chime in on that? I just want to get this narrow down and eliminated before I hassle myself with RDA's.
There is no such thing as PG gunk. PG vapes clean. Clean your house, vacuum, dust, and wipe stuff down, and you'll stop vaping dead skin cells, dust mite exoskeletons, and dirt that you've sucked in through your PV's airhole. You should also get an air purifier too.

...and if you are smoking in the house, stop. Just stop.

Edit: vaping NETS will also gunk up your coils...but you already know that.
...I hope.
 
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This whole "sock taste" thing is driving me nuts... I can not for the life of me conceptualize wth anyone is talking about! Same with the "monkey ...."! Has ANYONE, just ANYONE, actually ever tasted a sock or ....?!?!?!
What in the {MODERATED} is going on here?
For the love of vaping... if you are tasting .... or socks of any kind stop... STOP
 
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Dammit.....you just love editing your stuff don't you.

Saved.....

I made sure to do this particular test while vaping the Cisco to ensure that smoking wasn't the cause.

First, I vaped the Cisco. Then vaped the Aspire and a bunch of other things. Compared the flavor, realized all those other devices are..... manure.

Then, as a double-blind test, I smoked a cigarette.

Came back, still the same result. Godly aspire. Manure everywhere else.

Did the cigarette test one more time.

Again, godly Aspire.

The Aspire, after like an hour of not smoking a cigarette, finally went caput because I was using NET's and everything else, at 3.5ohms at 4.1V's. Already have said before that I know that's what gunked it. The gunk was even pretty GOOD with tobacco juices til then. Never tasted like a sock.

That's the vaping standard right there! :toast: *exception being only an hour of performance*
 

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This whole "sock taste" thing is driving me nuts... I can not for the life of me conceptualize wth anyone is talking about! Same with the "monkey ...."! Has ANYONE, just ANYONE, actually ever tasted a sock or ....?!?!?!
What in the f' is going on here?
For the love of vaping... if you are tasting .... or socks of any kind stop... STOP
Ummmmm.....I've never tasted socks.......ummmmmmmm........I gotta go
 

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Just so everyone knows, on the Cisco + cigarette test I posted, I typed a LOT of typos interchanging the Aspire and Cisco because my brain connects those two because they both have a "fancy" name.

The result of the test was that cigarettes did not effect my taste buds in the least, and that over a span of 3 years, not one juice or socky taste has changed in any way, until I vaped the Cisco, where all my juices tasted just as beautiful as the sampler devices I tried and bought the juices based upon. Something is very wrong with the devices that give me a "sock" taste across all juices.

I can vape PG, VG, NET's, anything, in an Aspire or any Clearomizer or Protank, and I taste a layer of SOCKS. *exception being VG on a Fluxomizer and only if I am vaping it upside down*
I can vape PG, VG, NET's, anything, on the Cisco, and I get the results I got with the juices in the one local vendor's CE4's. Beautiful juices. Tasted them on day one at the shop, didn't taste them in full glory again until I bought the 3.5ohm Cisco.
 

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I made sure to do this particular test while vaping the Cisco to ensure that smoking wasn't the cause.

First, I vaped the Cisco. Then vaped the Aspire and a bunch of other things. Compared the flavor, realized all those other devices are..... manure.

Then, as a double-blind test, I smoked a cigarette.

Came back, still the same result. Godly Cisco. Manure everywhere else.

Did the cigarette test one more time.

Again, godly Cisco.

The Cisco, after like an hour of not smoking a cigarette, finally went caput because I was using NET's and everything else, at 3.5ohms at 4.1V's. Already have said before that I know that's what gunked it. The gunk was even pretty GOOD with tobacco juices til then. Never tasted like a sock.

That's the vaping standard right there! :toast: *exception being only an hour of performance*

OOOOkay, now I see we have moved on to "manure"... the party is just getting started
 

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GoodNews!

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I just used manure as a code name for what the more abrasive of us, possibly Phil, would call a faulty device.

Again (everyone, see a post a wrote above this one!) I meant the CISCO when I said ASPIRE with the exception being the first sentence, which was correct.

Sorry guys! I admit, I have a scattered brain with all these weird experiences being stored in my head!
 

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What happened??? Cisco is crying in the corner! Was it a Cisco or an Aspire that worked??? C'mon GoodNews! What kind of reviewer are you?



Dammit.....you just love editing your stuff don't you. I have another question, just curious...how much do you drink?

Can't even keep the story straight at this point...lol?

Goodnews it sounds like you have amassed quite a collection of gear!

I saw your recent post with pictures of your ohm meter and fluxomizer, and always look to see peoples gear!

Could you please take a picture of ALL of your large collection of gear/atty's in ONE picture please, sure would appreciate it!
 

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normal rational person says: Oh wow thanks for the info, it is a lot to consider and I may have to change things up a bit and see if anything changes, thanks.

GN says : Not me, im different, there is no way anyone knows what i am experiencing and it MUST be something different it can't be because i keep coating my throat with tar from smoking constantly. you people don't have a clue as to how different my body really is compared to yours. soo jump off you newbz.
 

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I made sure to do this particular test while vaping the Cisco to ensure that smoking wasn't the cause.

First, I vaped the Cisco. Then vaped the Aspire and a bunch of other things. Compared the flavor, realized all those other devices are..... manure.

Then, as a double-blind test, I smoked a cigarette.

double blind test = a test procedure in which the identity of those receiving the intervention is concealed from both the administrators and the subjects until after the test is completed; designed to reduce or eliminate bias in the results

Impossible for you to accomplish... unless you suffer from a malady such as Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID).
 

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What watts would you ( someone experienced in watts please ) run a 3.5 atty? I'd like that question answered before skin gets mentioned and this thread goes down....

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8 watts has long been a great starting point regardless of other factors. FYI, 8 watts on a 3.5 ohm device requires 5.3 volts. So it takes a pretty strong device to reach that level, certainly not something that can be accomplished with a Spinner or Twist.
 
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