Could this make a good Cloud Chaser?

[NotAfraid]

Hello everyone!

I'm a new member here. I'm pretty new to e-cigarettes and I don't do it to stop using cigarettes. I don't smoke. I just love the taste and the vapor. It's also helpful on a strict diet.

So I have a question:


does this make a good cloud chaser? This would be my first mod. I've only used those eGo starting kits before, so tell me if something is wrong with my plan or if it is missing something.

 

[Bassnorma]

Hi Not Afraid and welcome to the forums

Here in the US, "Cloud Chasing" means extreme vaping and requires lots of knowledge and expertise about building coils, battery limits and Ohms Law so that you basically get to vape at subohms without severe injury to yourself or others.

Are you looking to compete in Cloud Chasing events or simply get more vapor production?

 

[NotAfraid]

Hi Not Afraid and welcome to the forums

Here in the US, "Cloud Chasing" means extreme vaping and requires lots of knowledge and expertise about building coils, battery limits and Ohms Law so that you basically get to vape at subohms without severe injury to yourself or others.

Are you looking to compete in Cloud Chasing events or simply get more vapor production?

Thanks.

There are no Cloud Chasing events here in Finland, at least not any that I know of. I just want more vapor.

The resistance in that wire is 0.09ohm/cm, btw.

 

[Bassnorma]

Thanks.

There are no Cloud Chasing events here in Finland, at least not any that I know of. I just want more vapor.

The resistance in that wire is 0.09ohm/cm, btw.

OK...But it is the resistance of the coil you build that determines the load on the battery....Have you ever built a coil?

Sorry if my question seems too simple but I am trying to get a feel for what you know so I can steer you to the right direction...

For example, my Kayfun light is easy to build and gives me great vapor production at 3.4 volts on a single 1.5 ohm coil....you can get great vapor and safely on a positive ohm build. And save battery charge and juice while you are at it.

 

[NotAfraid]

OK...But it is the resistance of the coil you build that determines the load on the battery....Have you ever built a coil?

Sorry if my question seems too simple but I am trying to get a feel for what you know so I can steer you to the right direction...

For example, my Kayfun light is easy to build and gives me great vapor production at 3.4 volts on a single 1.5 ohm coil....you can get great vapor and safely on a positive ohm build. And save battery charge and juice while you are at it.

I have never built a coil. I've watched couple of videos about it though.

I'd appreciate it, if you'd walk me through what I need to know and do.

 

[KenD]

The batteries and charger aren't nearly good enough.

Also, you're going to need an ohm and voltage meter (a good digital multimeter for example).

 

[NotAfraid]

The batteries and charger aren't nearly good enough.

Please continue. What do you recommend?

 

[KenD]

It depends on how low you plan to go (in coil resistance). High discharge safe chemistry batteries are a must. Rather than giving specific recommendations I urge you to read Baditude's battery blog here at ECF, and to learn to use an ohms law calculator.

 

[Bassnorma]

OK....First if you are going to build anything...you should start with a basic understanding of Ohms Law.....

Now here is another great blog about how to introduce yourself to the world of building safely...

and also this one.... gives you some great information on the tools you will need...

Baditude is an ECF Guru...check out all of his blogs when you can....

You can also consider using a mod with Regulated power which will cutoff if your build has a hard short....You can get good vapor at low ohms on some very inexpensive devices that are not mechanical like....

The device above will not support subohms but as I said in the 1 to 1.5 ohm range at 3.4-3.6 volts you will get very satisfying vapor.

If you like the look of mechanicals you can add a Kick to one to give you both regulation and safety.

Above everything you really need to match the continuous discharge rating of your battery to what ohms you are building on your coil, so that you do not exceed the capacity of your battery. Believe it or not, batteries and vent holes are more important than the actual mechanical mod itself because a mechanical mod is a simple device. It's the power you are supplying it in relation to the ohms of your coil that makes all the difference to vapor and safety.

Before we tell you what to buy, have a look at those blogs....

 

[Huh?!]

Please continue. What do you recommend?

Can't find the link at the moment, but for batteries, look for Badittude's sticky or blog in the "APV -- Batteries" sub forum. It will give a good breakdown of batteries, amps and ohms. Good batteries to use are Sony vtc 4s or vtc 5s (if you can find vtc 5s), AW 18650s and I've heard good things about the LGs.

For battery chargers, Xstar, intellicharger and the efest Luc are good chargers.

 

[Bassnorma]

Can't find the link at the moment, but for batteries, look for Badittude's sticky or blog in the "APV -- Batteries" sub forum. It will give a good breakdown of batteries, amps and ohms. Good batteries to use are Sony vtc 4s or vtc 5s (if you can find vtc 5s), AW 18650s and I've heard good things about the LGs.

For battery chargers, Xstar, intellicharger and the efest Luc are good chargers.

Hey Huh?...here's a link to the table of contents of all of Bad's Blogs...

 

[Susan~S]

To quote Baditude (our resident battery expert): "Read up. It's homework time!"

Battery Basics for Mods contains a list of recommended high-drain IMR or IMR/hybrid batteries for use in a mechanical mod.

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries describes what an IMR, IMR/hybrid, and ICR battery are. Explains what the letters & numbers mean on batteries.

Why is the amp rating important when choosing batteries for a mechanical mod and RBA? Explain It To The Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law calculations

Information Resources for Your First RBA An essential read and referrance guide for someone new to rebuilding coils. Includes a multitude of useful links on battery safety, mod safety, coil meters, coil building, and the differences in the three types of RBA's.

Inexpensive Mechanical Mod/RDA Setup

Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised

Concerning battery chargers: Any charger from Pila, Xtar, Nitecore, or the Efest LUC will be appropriate for your application. The more money you invest in a charger, the more features you'll get. Considering that batteries are the MOST IMPORTANT investment you will make in your vape setup, it makes sense to use a high quality charger.

The previous recommendation of reputable vendors to purchase batteries and chargers are highly recommended to avoid getting counterfeit batteries, which is a growing problem.

How to Spot Fake Sony Batteries



Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics

 

[Bassnorma]

So yeah...Susan just basically repeated what I said....But I am glad she did because it really is THAT important!

 

[NotAfraid]

Thanks to everyone! Time to do some reading.

I feel like an idiot right now. Thank God I registered to this forum.. I would have probably built a pipe bomb and killed myself.

 

[Bassnorma]

Thanks to everyone! Time to do some reading.

I feel like an idiot right now. Thank God I registered to this forum.. I would have probably built a pipe bomb and killed myself.

I am glad that you see it that way....we all start somewhere, no need to feel like an idiot...

All of us are happy to help as we were all once helped!

 

[LobsterTacos]

Thanks to everyone! Time to do some reading.

I feel like an idiot right now. Thank God I registered to this forum.. I would have probably built a pipe bomb and killed myself.

Don't feel like an idiot, pal. Setting up can be overwhelming at first. It took me a while to get the hang of balancing what you need vs. what you don't need. It's a learning curve of sorts. It can be tough to find simply-explained information, but as long as you can figure out the dos and don'ts, you'll be headed in the right direction. Then it will be easy to pick up on terminology, and proper methodology. Just beware the bad information out there, and stick to ECF.

 

[HomeSlixe]

Always a good idea to start from basics. I'm sure most of us started vaping with simple devices and built our knowledge from the ground up. I started with evod style tanks and thanks to this forum built a solid foundation of knowledge. Please be safe!

 

[VHFlorida]

This is a good guide. But I agree with the cutoff comment-a nemesis may not be the right first mod for you. Maybe a VV/VW is best.

 

[Bassnorma]

I would only use a VTC Line Battery for cloudchasing, but everything else is pretty much good. Please study a put use the OHMs law and general battery safety.

He is not cloud chasing....he misunderstood that. He just wants more vapor.

(sent from Mars, it's not as red as I imagined.)

 

[Nightshard]

Since you're new, maybe you should start with the basic builds and not just jump to the extremes (and cloud chasing is the extreme).

0.45mm Kanthal is somewhere between 26 and 24AWG.
I wouldn't start so low as a beginner, 28 is good to start with.

Wrong kind of battery.
Only IMR only 30 Amp rating or more (10 is fine if not for sub Ohm).