Yes vaping big clouds is a addiction not to mention the nicotine that is just my opinion
Could Vamping become adiction
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Those numbers aren't right. It's estimated to be 150-200mg PER KILOGRAM of body weight. That's like 100+ cups.
It's generally accepted that a dose of 0.5-1.0mg/kg in human adults is a fatal dose of nicotine though.
(Nah, I'm half asleep, I'll reread and rewrite when I'm conscious.)
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By whom? Nicotine isn't anywhere near the poisonous, I'd be dead if it was.
firstly you can be addicted to anything..I've seen a show where a gal ate vaseline.
that aside...sure like anything else but with this you can taper down the mg, or like some of the kids at the B&M they vape 0mg and it's for fun, beats vaping a lot of the other things I see kids their age vaping
with this flu I had four days or so I couldn't vape and I was fine, no crazies, I wanted to but couldn't not nearly as bad as smoking anyhow when you can't breath as with previous flus. then using a nebulizer so you can smoke some more? argh!!
that aside...sure like anything else but with this you can taper down the mg, or like some of the kids at the B&M they vape 0mg and it's for fun, beats vaping a lot of the other things I see kids their age vaping
with this flu I had four days or so I couldn't vape and I was fine, no crazies, I wanted to but couldn't not nearly as bad as smoking anyhow when you can't breath as with previous flus. then using a nebulizer so you can smoke some more? argh!!
Then why did you start vaping instead of just quitting smoking cold turkey? I'm not trying to be confrontational or anything I'm just saying I know I'm very addicted to nicotine that's why I switched from smoking to vaping. I couldn't just quit smoking on my own because the cravings would get so bad that I would eventually pick up cigs again. That's what addiction is. If I wasn't addicted I would have just put cigs down for good a long time ago with no problem because I wouldn't be having hardcore nic cravings.
Don't need to Google or read some study to know that nic is addictive. How silly. "Highly" addictive? Well, compared to what? When I think "addict" nic isn't the first substance that comes to mind. I think "Netflix." Addiction is pretty specific to the individual's psychological make-up and spans a broad spectrum of substances and degrees.
As for not being poisonous .... ask an old-school KGB or CIA agent how to kill someone with a carton of cigarettes. Just don't sip the drink they offer you.
As for not being poisonous .... ask an old-school KGB or CIA agent how to kill someone with a carton of cigarettes. Just don't sip the drink they offer you.
or slapping a bunch of nic patches on someone (or so the ex HaMossad dude that worked with me at NASA said they'd do. Screw KGB those guys were scary.*lol*
Source - Is Nicotine Addictive ?
And on the same note "Nicotine High-Toxicity Myth Destroyed" - Nicotine High-Toxicity Myth Destroyed
Ok. Nicotine is addicting. Not AS addicting as thought when it was being studied with cigarette Smoking. Cigarettes are VERY tough to quit because of the chemical composition and the way they were manipulated to give the same flavor consistently.
When you take away all that extra stuff, nicotine is not quite the bad seed that it was thought to be. It is currently being studied to see how it helps brain disorders such as: ADHD, ADD, schizophrenia and Alzheimer's.
The FDA has even approved nic patches and gum for indefinite use because they have found that nic isn't the big bad wolf.
Yes, cigarettes are very hard to stop. Vaping nic? Are we more addicted to the behavioral habit? or the Nic?
For myself, I have been able to wean myself down in nic without vaping more liquid. Same devices so it isn't that the device is feeding me more vapor, thereby more nic.
Vaping feeds my Habit of the hand to mouth + nic. This makes it easier to quit smoking. If it was just the nic that was the culprit, patches and/or gum should have worked. They did not because they couldn't mimic the hand to mouth habit that was so ingrained. Nor the feeling of inhaling deeply and blowing something out. Sure, I could have picked up a straw and pretended. But there is something so satisfying about seeing a cloud of something being visible.
Just my thoughts on the subject....
When you take away all that extra stuff, nicotine is not quite the bad seed that it was thought to be. It is currently being studied to see how it helps brain disorders such as: ADHD, ADD, schizophrenia and Alzheimer's.
The FDA has even approved nic patches and gum for indefinite use because they have found that nic isn't the big bad wolf.
Yes, cigarettes are very hard to stop. Vaping nic? Are we more addicted to the behavioral habit? or the Nic?
For myself, I have been able to wean myself down in nic without vaping more liquid. Same devices so it isn't that the device is feeding me more vapor, thereby more nic.
Vaping feeds my Habit of the hand to mouth + nic. This makes it easier to quit smoking. If it was just the nic that was the culprit, patches and/or gum should have worked. They did not because they couldn't mimic the hand to mouth habit that was so ingrained. Nor the feeling of inhaling deeply and blowing something out. Sure, I could have picked up a straw and pretended. But there is something so satisfying about seeing a cloud of something being visible.
Just my thoughts on the subject....
habit that causes no harm is not addiction. habit that causes harm is addiction.
i will further add when it comes to addiction,habit that causes harm to others
is considered addiction.
from what we know except for extreme forms of vaping it is relatively benign.
98% safer than smoking means the likelihood of contracting a smoking
related illness are slightly above a non risk group and within the margin of error.
when nicotine has been used in clinical studies to test for medicinal qualities
when and if it was checked for addictive qualities none were observed.
so in conclusion i believe those of us that have switched from smoking to vaping
are not addicts according to the classical definition of addiction.
we have just quit an addiction for a habit. it could be a good habit,bad habit or,
an annoying habit.i have been smoke free since July 2013. when i started vaping
i think i vaped more than i ever smoked. the last 3 to 4 months i've noticed i have
cut way back on the vaping. i did so with out actually really noticing as it was
happening. its just now i don't vape any where near as much as i have before.
longer periods of concentration at work,home,out and about and,writing on these
forums. if nicotine is so addictive why am i not vaping away constantly?
i am still using 18g per ml so shouldn't i be vaping as much or more.
how can people reduce to 0 nic if nicotine is as powerfully addicting
as we are led to believe?
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mike
Speaking of risk, it makes one think when they are finding that lung cancer is rising in never smokers. Is it just possible that smokers getting lung cancer, would have gotten lung cancer even if they had never smoked?
Lung Cancer for Nonsmokers Still Stained by Stigma - NBC News
Lung Cancer for Nonsmokers Still Stained by Stigma - NBC News
Yes I am still a nicotine addict but that addiction is diminishing.
I used to smoke 25 cigs a day. I now vape constantly, I started on 24mg nicotine then after a month I cut down to 18mg nicotine and now I am on 12mg nicotine in my e-juice.
I can see as the months go on my nicotine intake will reduce further to maybe 0mg nicotine.
I then won;t be addicted to nicotine, but I will still be addicted to vaping as I love all the shiny new toys and the science behind coils etc but I will be happy in replacing my nicotine addiction with a vaping addiction
I used to smoke 25 cigs a day. I now vape constantly, I started on 24mg nicotine then after a month I cut down to 18mg nicotine and now I am on 12mg nicotine in my e-juice.
I can see as the months go on my nicotine intake will reduce further to maybe 0mg nicotine.
I then won;t be addicted to nicotine, but I will still be addicted to vaping as I love all the shiny new toys and the science behind coils etc but I will be happy in replacing my nicotine addiction with a vaping addiction
my juice is 1.8 mg per ml which eqauls about 60 mg per kg.
why ain't i dead?
regards
mike
i think he means that nicotine alone without being in tobacco form
has never been studied for its addictive qualities.
i might add if that's what he means,he's right.
i have heard there is a recent study indicating that nicotine is
about as addictive as caffeine. for whatever that's worth.
regards
mike
OK, let's look into merriam-webster dictionary Addiction - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary :
1: the quality or state of being addicted <addiction to reading>
2: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as ......, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
Accordint this definition nicotine is addictive (and it is so, even if nicotine is relatively harmless biologically).
Addiction to nicotine trough vaping means:
- You are unable to go for prolong times without vaping.
- You have to carry your vaping gear with you even on shopping trips.
- You have to learn stealthy vaping to survive in anti-vaping society.
So, nicotine addiction means that at least your behaviour will be changed substantially and you will loose part of your freedom - just to keep your nicotine carvings satisfied. Any addiction robs us in terms of freedom - freedom from addiction.
1: the quality or state of being addicted <addiction to reading>
2: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as ......, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
Accordint this definition nicotine is addictive (and it is so, even if nicotine is relatively harmless biologically).
Addiction to nicotine trough vaping means:
- You are unable to go for prolong times without vaping.
- You have to carry your vaping gear with you even on shopping trips.
- You have to learn stealthy vaping to survive in anti-vaping society.
So, nicotine addiction means that at least your behaviour will be changed substantially and you will loose part of your freedom - just to keep your nicotine carvings satisfied. Any addiction robs us in terms of freedom - freedom from addiction.
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