County Bans E-Cigarettes — A Move Too Far in the War on Smoking?

[hausmouse]

There's just too much power in government. If you own a property it needs to be your choice what to allow on it. Within reason of course excluding murder(premeditated) and activities effecting the outside world too negatively but the govt. has taken all of our choices away. It's not just about ecigs. That just happens to be the current topic. Think about the healthcare debate which we're absolutely not getting into right now . Just too much power and no results in the true best interest of the people. Just remember its bigger than ecigs

 

[Petrodus]

There's just too much power in government. If you own a property it needs to be your choice what to allow on it. Within reason of course excluding murder(premeditated) and activities effecting the outside world too negatively but the govt. has taken all of our choices away. It's not just about ecigs. That just happens to be the current topic. Think about the healthcare debate which we're absolutely not getting into right now . Just too much power and no results in the true best interest of the people. Just remember its bigger than ecigs

Many in America today think the government doesn't have enough power
and the Constitution and Bill or Rights (for the most part) should be abolished.
PLEASE ... Do NOT include Me in that group.

Oh by the way ...
For those who think the Sequester cut spending requiring
the White House doors closed to the children for tours ...
Let me put it in terms we all deal with in our lives.
Your boss tells you that you will be getting a $100 raise in 3 months.
The next week he informs you ... You will only be getting a $98 raise in 3 months

Your income was NOT cut ... Just the future raise in your income was slightly reduced.

 

[zero7starz]

It should be legal anywhere where smoking is ok, and not an inch less. (More is ok, too.)
They should not be aloud to tell me what I can and can't do within my residence, regardless of what type of residence it is. They're also not aloud to check it out, so I don't care if they wanna try that or not because they'd have to first get a warrant to enter my property.

vaping is honestly not an easily explained hobby. And even more honestly, the people we will fight the hardest against are the ignorant ones who've made up their minds before we could even open our mouths. They will never change their mind. Because of this, it is not inside public places I worry about keeping it legal. That was never a concern of mine, people see "smoke" and their minds set- they already hate you because they think you're smoking inside and no amount of educating will change it. I worry about the over zealous wanting to make it completely illegal out of misunderstanding.

Or the entire hobby going the way of the hemp industry.

 

[Petrodus]

Those opposed to smoking and e-smoking will never ever ever go away.

At best ... e-smoking will not be regulated out of existence.
Those opposed to anything and everything even reminding them of smoking
will continue their endless demonizing campaigns against e-smoking.

Oh, by the way ...
The regulations the FDA will be sharing with us soon
will NOT be All the regulations the wish to impose.
Once a regulating agency starts to regulate ...
they go into a "feeding frenzy" and continue to add more
and more regulations.

For any here who believe the FDA is in place to protect our health ...
Sweet Dreams !!

 

[hausmouse]

I think as far as states the most regulation and most strict will probably be wrong(feel free to argue.) I must admit I am biased I'm not a big fan of a few places in the country and one of them happens to be California. Please don't take my statement as derogatory towards California. When you look at things like emissions which happens to carry a high presence in my mind, they tighten emission laws, the country follows. That's how I'm thinking this is going to be California gets strict with ecigs, country follows. Could be wrong and I don't like to speculate openly its just my thoughts. Fighting this in California may be the best hope

 

[NickSteel]

CASAA Launches new web page about FDA & e-cigarettes:

CASAA: CASAA Launches new web page about FDA & e-cigarettes

My comment:

Six members of my family have been completely off cigarettes for three months now with e-cigarette kits I furnished. That's 6 pairs of lungs, 6 hearts and the elimination of all secondary smoke. In a nation unable to control assault weapons, the government is actually going after people trying to improve their family's health?

 

[Petrodus]

CASAA Launches new web page about FDA & e-cigarettes
Top of Page

Excellent link:
The FDA & Deeming Regulations of E-cigarettes

 

[NickSteel]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...0c9c8e-949c-11e2-95ca-dd43e7ffee9c_story.html

 

[DC2]

Those opposed to smoking and e-smoking will never ever ever go away.

At best ... e-smoking will not be regulated out of existence.
Those opposed to anything and everything even reminding them of smoking
will continue their endless demonizing campaigns against e-smoking.

I disagree.

I believe they will eventually be forced to back off when it comes to electronic cigarettes.
Slowly but sure the truth comes out, and it will put them in a position where they will lose all credibility unless they shut their pie-holes.

If I didn't believe that I wouldn't be here.

 

[Petrodus]

Looking forward to the day when Big Pharma
stops bankrolling those opposed to e-cigarettes

 

[kristin]

It should be legal anywhere where smoking is ok, and not an inch less. (More is ok, too.)
They should not be aloud to tell me what I can and can't do within my residence, regardless of what type of residence it is. They're also not aloud to check it out, so I don't care if they wanna try that or not because they'd have to first get a warrant to enter my property.

This isn't really a response to your post so much as a thought that occurred to me reading it...

I often see people saying "I only vape where smoking is allowed. It's the polite thing to do." What they don't seem to understand is that smoking is being banned in more and more places. In Contra Costa County, California, smoking is already banned in multi-unit homes with 4 or more units. The proposed ordinance is amending that to 2 or more units. This is not just government housing - it includes condos and town homes that people own. It includes any apartment building or duplex. So, if you live in a multi-unit building and vape and believe you should only vape where smoking is allowed, you could no longer vape in your own residence - even if you own it. It also means a little old lady in the nursing home or assisted living apartment, where smoking is legally banned, has to go out in the cold to vape. Sick and injured people in hospitals have to go outside to vape - often walking 1/4 mile away, because it's not allowed anywhere on the vast property, even in the parking lot.

The reasons for fighting these bans go FAR beyond being able to vape in a Walmart or Applebees. If we let them ban vaping anywhere smoking is prohibited, we are opening the door to being prohibited from using our e-cigs in every place they decide to ban smoking in the future. Since no one is really successfully fighting these smoking bans and amendments that add more and more places, our only choice is to fight being included in the bans.

 

[DC2]

The reasons for fighting these bans go FAR beyond being able to vape in a Walmart or Applebees. If we let them ban vaping anywhere smoking is prohibited, we are opening the door to being prohibited from using our e-cigs in every place they decide to ban smoking in the future. Since no one is really successfully fighting these smoking bans and amendments that add more and more places, our only choice is to fight being included in the bans.

And in fact the California ban attempt currently in progress would do that very thing...
Electronic cigarettes will be prohibited everywhere smoking is banned, and will also be subject to any future bans.