cross compatibility of equipment both charging and atomizing

[dezyner]

gotta ask this because, well, I have no clue. I got an ego 650 starter "kit", like a bunch of other newbs. And, when I got a Spinner, I gifted it to my folks who quit smoking with it. Then I told pops about the variable volt I got, and he got a twister. Here's the deal, he had the ego charger I gave him that came with the 650 kit. Is that a problem charging a twist with the same ego charger he has for the 650. They are both joyetech, so I didn't think it was a problem.

The reason I am now breaking down and asking is his Twist died in 6 weeks, WAY before I think it should have. And the other aspect I am trying to trouble shoot is the vision ce4's he's using have 1.8 heads and 2.4 both, which I don't think should kill a battery that soon either, even though the vendor I bought the batts from claims is why they died so quickly. I haven't had that problem, why would he. but, gotta go to the vastly far more experienced I know you folks are. Just don't want his batts to keep dying and him go back to smoking. getting the older folks into his is a little tougher than doing it for yourself, and the fact he's 3000 miles away and it's all over the phone isn't helping much. If I posted in the wrong category, sorry mods, had no idea other than "general".

Any advice would be appreciated. As always, thank you in advance for taking the time to post. cheers.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi - you can use an ego charger for an eGo Twist. As far as a CE4 burning out a battery, the vendor is mistaken. The battery would have burned out the clearo, not the other way around (unless there was a short, as Thompson posted, or the clearo was leaking and liquid allowed to sit on the battery connection).

ETA: "eGo" has become the generic name for a style of battery, many manufacturers make them, so quality can be very quite inconsistent. "Joytech' in the name brand. I only buy authentic Joyetech eGos. They cost a little more, but I like knowing who they were made by.

 

[Thompson]

The clearo could've potentially shorted, and ruined the circuitry of the battery.

But I find that kind of unlikely, as eGo-C short protection I think is pretty good.

With these batteries & charger, you just have to make sure the charger outputs a max of 420ma. Lower is fine, it will just slow charging. But going over is bad news. Doesn't sound as if anything you guys were using was improper.

 

[Katya]

Yes, eGo batteries are well known for their finicky circuitry; it's been improved recently, but if the resistance of your atomizer falls below 1.5Ω, well, in reality, closer to 1Ω, it will kill your battery--especially those older egos and Rivas. Been there, done that. Just because the stated resistance of your atty is 1.8Ω, it doesn't necessarily hold true. Be very careful using LR atties on eGos (and clones). If you want to use a LR atty, always check the resistance with a multimeter to make sure it's OK. If the resistance is lower than, say, 1.5Ω, proceed with caution--or don't use it on your eGo.

We'll probably never know what happened; your clearo might have killed your battery, for one of the reasons mentioned above, or you may have gotten a bad battery. Some of them die an early death. I have at least 7 or 8 batteries charged and ready--just in case one of them malfunctions.

 

[Rickajho]

The JoyeTech eGo and Twist use the same charger.

Unless you have a meter to check the resistance of those clearos you might never know what happened. These things aren't manufactured to any precision tolerances to begin with. And the resistance of a device can change with use. The lower the resistance goes the closer that gets to representing a short to any protection circuit built into the battery. Or the coil could have shorted out with use too. It happens.

I have been told by a couple vendors that JoyeTech batteries are not designed to work with LR devices - below 2.0 ohm - and using LR stuff with eGo batteries voids any warranty. I do know that people who push that envelope and use LR stuff on JoyeTech batteries tend to have short lived experiences with them.

 

[Thompson]

I found this site insanely useful for helping understanding the Whys of not using LR on some batteries

CARTO to BATTERY INFO

 

[Vapor Vinny]

It be nice if someone could create a chart of cross-compatibility, if it hasn't already been done.

I've been away from vaping for a while and I'm really confused. I used a Riva 510 which I like. No complaints. I'd like to know what other atomoizers (by brand), clearmoizers, tanks, etc. I could use.

 

[dezyner]

all helpful and useful info thanks. I did steer him to use Joyetch stuff, not the knockoff no name ego's, trying to get him decent quality to use. And it's all less than 4 months since buying, but that doesn't mean it didn't sit in a box for months either. I assumed it was just "stuff happens", but before repeating the same conditions I wanted to ask. I too would have thought that lower resistance cartos would burn out the coils, not the other way around with a coil burning out the battery. I just assumed that lower resistance equaled more vaper with less voltage. I just went by the ohms to voltage chart that floats around here. but, I'm no electrical engineer by any sense of the imagination. thanks folks, as always, lots of good info.

 

[Katya]

It be nice if someone could create a chart of cross-compatibility, if it hasn't already been done.

I've been away from vaping for a while and I'm really confused. I used a Riva 510 which I like. No complaints. I'd like to know what other atomoizers (by brand), clearmoizers, tanks, etc. I could use.

Hi, Vinny! Where have you been???? Welcome back!

Riva is another version of an eGo battery. Any cartomizer/clearomizer/atty that is 510 or eGo threaded will work on any of the eGo/Riva/KGO batteries (including eGo-C Twist and Spinner, which are variable voltage batteries).

I am very fond of the new changeable-coil units: eGo-C atties (with tanks); Kanger T3. MT3, and Evod; Tabac BCC. Vision ViVi Novas are also popular. Good old cartomizers, filler-type, work also; Boge and SmokTech are good.

Here's the chart:

http://www.e-cigarette-wiki.com/index.php?title=Brand_and_Model_Compatibility_Chart