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I thought I would have the urge a lot, but it was maybe the first 3 days that were the worst for me. Over a month here without one and no urge to ever pick one up again.
It's all about you really wanting to quit, mental discipline.
It's all about you really wanting to quit, mental discipline.
Haven't smoked a cigarette since I started to vape over 6 months ago, Was a pretty easy transition for me to make. No cravings no withdrawals. Once I upgraded to a decent regulated vaporizer and re-buildable atomizers, I no longer had the feeling of something was missing and found more than what smoking could ever offer.
I bought an e-cig on a whim last thursday just to try it. No real plan to quit smoking. That night I didn't have the urge to smoke until right before bed so I did. The next morning I had a cig as part of my normal routine. Although I didn't finish it. The last smoke I had was noon that same day to ease some chest pains from not smoking. Haven't had one since.
Again, not that I didn't want to per se... I would just rather vape. Especially since I found a juice I like. I still have that open pack sitting on my counter... But I highly doubt I'll touch it.
Again, not that I didn't want to per se... I would just rather vape. Especially since I found a juice I like. I still have that open pack sitting on my counter... But I highly doubt I'll touch it.
Been vaping more in the last week and a half but as of late I've been having cravings. Talked to the guy where I buy my liquid about this and he mentioned going up to a higher strength. Picked up the higher strength and the cravings were still there, but not nearly as much.
However, I just changed the head on my ProTank and now I'm wondering if I should have stayed with the 12mg. Getting nice big vapor hits and plenty of nicotine now.
I've been smoking for the last 25+ years so I still have habits I need to break but after I break them I think I'll be golden.
However, I just changed the head on my ProTank and now I'm wondering if I should have stayed with the 12mg. Getting nice big vapor hits and plenty of nicotine now.
I've been smoking for the last 25+ years so I still have habits I need to break but after I break them I think I'll be golden.
wow, great stories guys....impressive really.
I cant begin to explain how anxious i am to get started on this.
Im so curious how it will affect me. Hearing all of your experiences and a few others on here, I just hope i will have the same luck. The reason im so skeptical right now is because Ive had shisha (or hukka) in the past. The one with tobacco as well as without. But as much smoke as i get with it, i still had to light a cigarette....sometimes two. I know this is a different beast, but i just cant wrap my head around it.
Now, im not expecting a miracle, but im still very anxious to get one.
I cant begin to explain how anxious i am to get started on this.
Im so curious how it will affect me. Hearing all of your experiences and a few others on here, I just hope i will have the same luck. The reason im so skeptical right now is because Ive had shisha (or hukka) in the past. The one with tobacco as well as without. But as much smoke as i get with it, i still had to light a cigarette....sometimes two. I know this is a different beast, but i just cant wrap my head around it.
Now, im not expecting a miracle, but im still very anxious to get one.
Glad to see you coming around Kobe! You won't regret it if you do, and your lungs will thank you and you'll smell and taste everything in a whole new light.
If you tell yourself you can do it, you can. I know you can, get away from those gross analogs!
If you tell yourself you can do it, you can. I know you can, get away from those gross analogs!
Well, in my limited experience it depends on 2 things.... You have to have enough nic and with 24mg you're getting much more than you would from a cig. Second, you have to have a decent setup with good tasting juice. I bought 9 bottles from 3 stores before I found one I liked. Also, be sure to get a twist type battery that you can set the voltage on so you can tweak your vape hit.
That being said, when you make the switch, don't think of it as quitting smoking. Think of it as trying something new and have a smoke if you really want one. Once you dial in your e-cig everything else kind of falls into place.
I would suggest not stressing about smoking while vaping. Within 2 weeks, you'll find out on your own that cigarettes are just nasty compared to vaping. Some people find it very hard to give up that first one of the morning, after eating &/or while drinking. It also makes it easier to get over the issue that no e-cigarette will ever taste like a real one. I was a menthol smoker but hated the taste of tobacco or smoke in my liquids. Now I don't even like the menthol liquids but it's all good because I still like peppermint, raspberry, peach, coconut, mocha, orange, etc.
After almost a year vaping and quitting the analogs within a few days, I do have the urge or should I say did.
Anyway yes indeed I have cheated and fell off the wagon 5 times (5 stinkies) in that time. However every time I do it it reinforces why I switched in the first place. Makes me feel pretty crappy when I do and gladly go back to vaping. One of the best things that's ever happened to me. I can now hopefully enjoy my great grand children a lot longer.
Anyway yes indeed I have cheated and fell off the wagon 5 times (5 stinkies) in that time. However every time I do it it reinforces why I switched in the first place. Makes me feel pretty crappy when I do and gladly go back to vaping. One of the best things that's ever happened to me. I can now hopefully enjoy my great grand children a lot longer.
The nicotine level needed to replace the cigarette we used to smoke is highly dependent on the gear you are using and watts one is vaping at. On cheap gear and a moderate atomizer that doesn't perform well, one might need 24 or 36mg nic to satisfy. Put the same juice in a high end rba vaping at high watts and you'll get a killer nic hit and have to lay down if you haven't already fallen over. So nic level is very subjective and must be adapted to ones needs and the gear they are using. If what you vape isn't taking care of your needs, up the level, if you get blurry vision and stumble around and slur you words after taking a vape break, um lower you levels. If the juice you were just vaping yesterday is not working today, you need to clean your atomizer, re-wick, dry burn the coil or re-build, or replace the disposable one.
With all things vape, it is just a matter of finding what works best for the individual, and being able to change when change occurs.
With all things vape, it is just a matter of finding what works best for the individual, and being able to change when change occurs.
Nearly three months in to vaping and I have no real desire for a cigarette. Oh, I think about it sure, but I haven't had any desire to go get a pack.
The first few days were when I had to break my ritual. Namely, grabbing my lighter and cigs and heading out the door for a smoke. Those first days I would just grab my vape and go outside, just to satisfy my ritual. Broke that pattern after the first week.. and have lowered my nic strength down to 12mg.
Overall it was much easier than I expected. I had quit cigs several times over the 25+ yrs that I smoked. Nicotine patchs, gum... both were in-effective. Vaping has been far, far easier than anything else.
Frankly I had just gotten to the point where I had given up trying to quit.. and everyone badgering me just ...... me off and made me more determined to keep smoking.
Cheers!
The first few days were when I had to break my ritual. Namely, grabbing my lighter and cigs and heading out the door for a smoke. Those first days I would just grab my vape and go outside, just to satisfy my ritual. Broke that pattern after the first week.. and have lowered my nic strength down to 12mg.
Overall it was much easier than I expected. I had quit cigs several times over the 25+ yrs that I smoked. Nicotine patchs, gum... both were in-effective. Vaping has been far, far easier than anything else.
Frankly I had just gotten to the point where I had given up trying to quit.. and everyone badgering me just ...... me off and made me more determined to keep smoking.
Cheers!
I had about a 12 hour transition period where I was vaping and smoking at the same time.
After that, it really sucked the first week or so. The need to light up was strong, and I was hanging on to my PV with a white-knuckled death grip most of the time.
Second week, not so bad, occasional urges, but nothing really horrible.
Now, three months later, I can honestly say I don't really miss it at all. I don't even get the urge to vape when experiencing my old triggers (get in the car, walk the dogs, sit down with my first cup of coffee, etc.).
After that, it really sucked the first week or so. The need to light up was strong, and I was hanging on to my PV with a white-knuckled death grip most of the time.
Second week, not so bad, occasional urges, but nothing really horrible.
Now, three months later, I can honestly say I don't really miss it at all. I don't even get the urge to vape when experiencing my old triggers (get in the car, walk the dogs, sit down with my first cup of coffee, etc.).
I picked up an e-cig on a whim like Conrad, with the mindset of "I'll see where this goes, but I won't make any promises to myself". I couldn't believe how well the e-cig worked and loved the flavors, but during the first couple weeks I was still getting urges and though the e-cigs satisfied them quite a bit I smoked maybe 10 analogs during that time. The urges kept lessening during the next couple weeks and I smoked maybe 5 cigs during that stretch. In the 3 weeks since then the urges have still been popping up once in a while, but they continue to decrease and seem now to only come on when I get stressed out or frustrated with something.
Some things I've been doing that may or may not help you:
1. Trying to keep my vaping routine approximately the same as when I was smoking analogs. This means going outside to vape in the same spots I would normally have smoked my analogs. Also been vaping after meals and every time I hop in the car. I'm no nueroscientist, but from what I understand it helps to do these things because I'm basically replacing all the associations I previously had with analogs. I believe one of the reasons e-cigs work so well is that they hit on a some of the things that gum/patches/pills etc don't, like the oral fixation and the visual sense of seeing the vapor/smoke... so it's replacing/relieving those associations that other replacement/cessation therapies don't.
2. Trying lots of different flavors of e-juice in order to keep it interesting. I find that once I start getting bored with a flavor I get more urges for analogs. Also been switching up my nicotine levels a bit, though I love the e-juice flavors and anything over 12mg nicotine makes it difficult for me to taste the flavor as much.
3. Reading a lot of posts on this forum by people who are still having urges and/or smoking some analogs. I feel like this helps a lot because it's basically a support group and I can find all kinds of folks to relate to.
4. Reading about e-cig tech in general and trying to learn as much as I can about them. I feel like the active effort to learn about e-cigs helps because it keeps my mind interested in them, plus the more time I spend on it the more vested I am in vaping. Also it just helps to be able to find better products for vaping and improve the overall experience.
Hope that helps, good luck!
Some things I've been doing that may or may not help you:
1. Trying to keep my vaping routine approximately the same as when I was smoking analogs. This means going outside to vape in the same spots I would normally have smoked my analogs. Also been vaping after meals and every time I hop in the car. I'm no nueroscientist, but from what I understand it helps to do these things because I'm basically replacing all the associations I previously had with analogs. I believe one of the reasons e-cigs work so well is that they hit on a some of the things that gum/patches/pills etc don't, like the oral fixation and the visual sense of seeing the vapor/smoke... so it's replacing/relieving those associations that other replacement/cessation therapies don't.
2. Trying lots of different flavors of e-juice in order to keep it interesting. I find that once I start getting bored with a flavor I get more urges for analogs. Also been switching up my nicotine levels a bit, though I love the e-juice flavors and anything over 12mg nicotine makes it difficult for me to taste the flavor as much.
3. Reading a lot of posts on this forum by people who are still having urges and/or smoking some analogs. I feel like this helps a lot because it's basically a support group and I can find all kinds of folks to relate to.
4. Reading about e-cig tech in general and trying to learn as much as I can about them. I feel like the active effort to learn about e-cigs helps because it keeps my mind interested in them, plus the more time I spend on it the more vested I am in vaping. Also it just helps to be able to find better products for vaping and improve the overall experience.
Hope that helps, good luck!
The big thing for me when I first made the switch was throat hit (TH). I was really needing something that hit the back of my throat like y cigs did and everything seemed too light. For this reason I think I gravitated towards menthol and cinnamon-flavored juices initially, both of these provide a higher TH at a particular level of nic.
Also, don't be afraid to up the nic, or just buy a bottle of "heavy" liquid and keep it loaded on an ego for times when you're Jonesing. Once you figure it out, you'll find you think about analogs much, much less.
Also, don't be afraid to up the nic, or just buy a bottle of "heavy" liquid and keep it loaded on an ego for times when you're Jonesing. Once you figure it out, you'll find you think about analogs much, much less.
I had one stinkie a day for the first threee days I vaped then I haven't had a stinkie since. That June 19, 2013. I get the urge once in awhile but they pass quickly. The worst was Sunday after the big Thanksgiving dinner we fixed. I ALMOST went to buy a pack but with support of family I made it through it.
Hey Kobe
Every person approaching this gets to make up their own end game. The only important rule here is: Have a genuine desire to quit smoking.
There are many people who report that "The first time I picked up an e-cig I never touched a cigarette again!" thing.
I wanted to reach out and hurt those people when I started.
As a 30 year 2 PAD smoker I ended up smoking during my first three months of vaping. Mind you a lot less - I dropped from 2 PAD down to only six butts in my first day without even trying. It took me some time to deal with all the needed approaches to handling bad cravings, getting past the knee-jerk reaction that smoking a cigarette was the only way to handle stress. Stuff like that. Three months to completely quit a 30 year habit - I didn't see a problem there.
And everyone has a very different quit smoking withdrawal experience. Keep in mind you are withdrawing from smoking and all the crap that you took in from it - this isn't just a simple case or replacing nicotine with nicotine. Once again - it's very different for each person. Some people seem to have very few withdrawal problems. I had pretty bad withdrawal for 2 weeks - same as any other time I tried to quit smoking with "approved" NRT. But this was the only time I ever did quit, and stayed quit.
The best part about quitting with e-cigs is the flexibility. You get to find the nic level that's right for you. You get to change the nic level during the day if you have craving fits. Even changing flavors can be enough of a distraction to satisfy a craving dilemma. And you get to decide how to quit smoking. A "cold turkey" switch right over to vaping? If you want to. Loose approach and just see what happens when you start vaping? That works too. Some place in between? Yup. If you have tried before, and followed the American Cancer Society handbook, mentally throw out everything in that rule book. If their approach actually worked, none of us would be here.
So ok, maybe there are two rules.
Rule 1.) Have a genuine desire to quit smoking.
Rule 2.) Pick up the device of your choice and start vaping.
Exactly how you quit smoking will all be sorted out from there. And we all can help - that's what we do here.
Every person approaching this gets to make up their own end game. The only important rule here is: Have a genuine desire to quit smoking.
There are many people who report that "The first time I picked up an e-cig I never touched a cigarette again!" thing.
I wanted to reach out and hurt those people when I started.As a 30 year 2 PAD smoker I ended up smoking during my first three months of vaping. Mind you a lot less - I dropped from 2 PAD down to only six butts in my first day without even trying. It took me some time to deal with all the needed approaches to handling bad cravings, getting past the knee-jerk reaction that smoking a cigarette was the only way to handle stress. Stuff like that. Three months to completely quit a 30 year habit - I didn't see a problem there.
And everyone has a very different quit smoking withdrawal experience. Keep in mind you are withdrawing from smoking and all the crap that you took in from it - this isn't just a simple case or replacing nicotine with nicotine. Once again - it's very different for each person. Some people seem to have very few withdrawal problems. I had pretty bad withdrawal for 2 weeks - same as any other time I tried to quit smoking with "approved" NRT. But this was the only time I ever did quit, and stayed quit.
The best part about quitting with e-cigs is the flexibility. You get to find the nic level that's right for you. You get to change the nic level during the day if you have craving fits. Even changing flavors can be enough of a distraction to satisfy a craving dilemma. And you get to decide how to quit smoking. A "cold turkey" switch right over to vaping? If you want to. Loose approach and just see what happens when you start vaping? That works too. Some place in between? Yup. If you have tried before, and followed the American Cancer Society handbook, mentally throw out everything in that rule book. If their approach actually worked, none of us would be here.
So ok, maybe there are two rules.
Rule 1.) Have a genuine desire to quit smoking.
Rule 2.) Pick up the device of your choice and start vaping.
Exactly how you quit smoking will all be sorted out from there. And we all can help - that's what we do here.
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