customs-clearance of e-liquid

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MonkeyMonk

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I ordered my sleeping pills on-line and they were held by customs, but I did not know that. I contacted the on-line pharmacy and asked them what had happened and was it customs? They said to re-order. I re-ordered a smaller amount and it got delayed again. Both times the tracking entry stopped with "Inbound customs at JFK".

I contacted the on-line pharmacy again. They said they didn't know of any customs problems to re-order. I did not re-order.

Somewhere around 2-3 month later I got identical letters from Customs with different inventory/case numbers that said, in essence that, my sleepingpills were controlled and that I could do 1 of 3 options. Option 1 was check a box and dis-claim ownership, option 2 was like an appeal, option 3 was do noting and they would consider it abandoned. But, the last paragraph is what scared me...it said, in essence, if you do this again we will prosecute you.

Now, mind you the 2 orders were placed about a good month apart, but the letters came to me on the same day.

This is all I know about customs. I hope it helps with your querry.
 

Jim Davis

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Souds you are the lucky guy, it's said there is 5% to be held up by customs to buy e-cig from China. If you purchase e-liquid alone, it will be totally held up there.

I have 3 orders out now. 1 from Canada was delivered today, 1 from China cleared Customs yesterday. The last one from China cleared Customs today.
 
I have 3 orders out now. 1 from Canada was delivered today, 1 from China cleared Customs yesterday. The last one from China cleared Customs today.

Aha, i am so glad to hear this good news from you. Thanks very much for all the details provided by other buddys here. I think we can tell our customers to rest assure of the customs cause i have got how to label correctly.
 

MonkeyMonk

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I received a china order through EMS in about 4 days. TW sent my e-liquid with the box clearly labeled "ecig". I took awhile to get only because they were slow to ship, but once it got to the US it got here at lightening speed.

I think if you are ordering large shipments it puts you way more at risk.


I agree with you, but out of curiousity, what is your guess of what a large shipment might be?
 

Terrie

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I had a shipment of 18 kits and some cartridges held up in Customs 4 weeks ago. I finally got a letter from the FDA yesterday telling me that it's been detained. (reason they gave: because it's a "new drug" that has not been approved in the U.S.) The choices I've been given are: I can either have it shipped back to China, or I can just choose not to claim it. (Just wanted to tell sdbird that if they did seize your shipment, it could be a month before they contact you about it)

Meanwhile I've had several small packages arrive with no problems at all. So, for those of you just ordering small amounts of products for personal use, you probably don't need to worry much.
 

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Terri,
DHL, UPS or USPS?


I had a shipment of 18 kits and some cartridges held up in Customs 4 weeks ago. I finally got a letter from the FDA yesterday telling me that it's been detained. (reason they gave: because it's a "new drug" that has not been approved in the U.S.) The choices I've been given are: I can either have it shipped back to China, or I can just choose not to claim it. (Just wanted to tell sdbird that if they did seize your shipment, it could be a month before they contact you about it)

Meanwhile I've had several small packages arrive with no problems at all. So, for those of you just ordering small amounts of products for personal use, you probably don't need to worry much.
 

Jim Davis

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I had a shipment of 18 kits and some cartridges held up in Customs 4 weeks ago. I finally got a letter from the FDA yesterday telling me that it's been detained.

Meanwhile I've had several small packages arrive with no problems at all. So, for those of you just ordering small amounts of products for personal use, you probably don't need to worry much.

I'm not sure if it's the size of the order, or if it was a random check. I just had 8 kits, and 5 - 30ml bottles of juice clear Customs. This completes my "stock up". From now on, I'll just order small to keep my stock at it's current level.
 

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I had a shipment of 18 kits and some cartridges held up in Customs 4 weeks ago. I finally got a letter from the FDA yesterday telling me that it's been detained. (reason they gave: because it's a "new drug" that has not been approved in the U.S.) The choices I've been given are: I can either have it shipped back to China, or I can just choose not to claim it. (Just wanted to tell sdbird that if they did seize your shipment, it could be a month before they contact you about it)

Meanwhile I've had several small packages arrive with no problems at all. So, for those of you just ordering small amounts of products for personal use, you probably don't need to worry much.

If the kits are being shipped with no juice in the carts, then there is no "drug" involved, or if the juice is non-nic. Not that this helps you in any way, just an observation.
 

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And that's the problem I foresee, at least with the e-liquids. 60 mg of nicotine is poison and will kill an adult. 24-36 might not be enough to kill and adult, but could well kill a pet or a child. That would be the excuse used to justify a ban of the importation of e-liquids, I would think. Wont someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN who could DIE from drinking these liquids!

There are thousands of products on open sale that could kill a child and they are not banned (that's not even mentioning guns!!). It's down to safety with regard to packaging and labeling. ALL liquids should be supplied in containers with child resistant closures and should be labeled accordingly, as they are by law in the UK - see CHIP regulations. 30ml of 36mg [1 mg per litre = 1 microgram per ml ] eliquid contains 1080mg of nicotine, 18 times the lethal dose if it was imbibed by mouth. Now does that figure make you stop and think?!
EDIT: If we accept 50mg as a potentially lethal dose, I did get the figures wrong as the LD is per Kg of body weight. So, the LD for a lightweight person of 70kg would be 3500mg (3.5 grammes). Therefore a 30ml bottle of 36mg would represent under a third of the LD. A 100ml bottle however could carry the LD. A 30ml bottle could be fatal to someone with a body weight of 20kg - 44 pounds - a child.
Customs or FDA or whoever would probably not look kindly on bottles of "aromatherapy oil" that turned out to carry a toxic substance and rightly so. It is up to the manufacturer or supplier to ensure that this toxic substance is sent to the end user in an appropriate container as, in the eyes of the law, it is their responsibility (end users often being judged using the lowest common denominator - ie dumb). These are the types of regulation that will be enforced and which will have to be accepted to avoid a total ban. In the UK certain pesticides were withdrawn from sale because of the high nicotine content.
Alan.
 
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