I would like to try one...so maybe just be able to buy singles to test out...If they rock then bigger orders. Can they be cleaned like the ones we use now?
D & b gold has echo-e cartomizers!
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SHHHH...According to another suppliers site.....there are echo-e dual coil....of course we will want to wait till Bill gets them.
Yes but the other vendor is only doing singles if you buy a 30ml bottle of juice to my understanding. I think I'll sit tight and wait to see if Bill gets them. If you can Bill, I'll take a couple boxes of chrome echo-e duals. I'm sure others on here will want them also.
ONCE AGAIN THE SAME INDIVIDUAL IS PUTTING OUT FALSE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION ABOUT THE ECHO KITS!
"I agree 44.95 for the Echo 1300 and 39.45 for the 650 are the best prices I've seen" is flat out false and misleading
because he knows full well what I sell my kits for and that they come with 5 cartomizers and a drip tip!
Even with my my increase in prices I still sell the kits for less!
I wish there were some way to shut this "JETHRO" up.
EDITED TO ADD: I AM NOT ASKING FOR A RECOMMEDATION FROM HIM< I AM ASKING THAT HE STOP PUTTING OUT FALSE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION!
If he can not tell the truth about this, I wonder what else he is not telling the truth about.
Kinda makes you wonder.
Then again maybe he just has trouble doing the math.
"I agree 44.95 for the Echo 1300 and 39.45 for the 650 are the best prices I've seen" is flat out false and misleading
because he knows full well what I sell my kits for and that they come with 5 cartomizers and a drip tip!
Even with my my increase in prices I still sell the kits for less!
I wish there were some way to shut this "JETHRO" up.
EDITED TO ADD: I AM NOT ASKING FOR A RECOMMEDATION FROM HIM< I AM ASKING THAT HE STOP PUTTING OUT FALSE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION!
If he can not tell the truth about this, I wonder what else he is not telling the truth about.
Kinda makes you wonder.
Then again maybe he just has trouble doing the math.
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I made the statement just to answer the question "are there any for the echo-e". I buy from Bill.
How about we end this so everyone knows the honest truth here ! The truth is that I, MWA, made the first Echo Dual coil carto here in my small shop while modding one of them !!! I then gave this idea and how I did it to a supplier. He then in return had Hangsen make them ! That in fact is how the dual coil Echo evolved and that's no BS !
I think it is kind of rotten that Hangsen doesn't give that Vendor an exclusive for supplying them with the idea and exactly how it was done, or at the bear minimum give that Vendor at least a 60-90 days exclusive on them, it would only be the right & fair thing to do.
However I'm agreeing with Donald Trump now on what I think should be done these days with how these people do business. I have no favorites and enjoy all the ECF vendors and people here on this forum, this includes Bill, Tony, Dennis, all of the Echo suppliers there all nice people, but business is business and a handshake means nothing in this world anymore when you do business across the pond and in another country. Without signed contracts you obviously have nothing and that's kind of a shame in a way to trust someone and then they stab you in the back because that's what Hangsen is doing here in my opinion. They act as if they are all honorable business men and that's just not so they are not. !!! and even at that they will shove a knife in your back and make a bootleg and bring it to market and cut your throat on price !! Go ask Gucci or any of the designers, they lose Billions a year to these manufacturers who work like this,, enough said on this.!! The buck stops right here as far as where the DC Echo evolved ! it was right out back in my shop and that's a fact ! And who get's them is now all up to Hangsen and that's the bottom line !
Be a sure of one other thing, I've taken it a step further and have come up with an even a newer design with these Echo Carto's and it won't be just handed over this time the way it was with the DC Echo it will be done the right way
I think it is kind of rotten that Hangsen doesn't give that Vendor an exclusive for supplying them with the idea and exactly how it was done, or at the bear minimum give that Vendor at least a 60-90 days exclusive on them, it would only be the right & fair thing to do.
However I'm agreeing with Donald Trump now on what I think should be done these days with how these people do business. I have no favorites and enjoy all the ECF vendors and people here on this forum, this includes Bill, Tony, Dennis, all of the Echo suppliers there all nice people, but business is business and a handshake means nothing in this world anymore when you do business across the pond and in another country. Without signed contracts you obviously have nothing and that's kind of a shame in a way to trust someone and then they stab you in the back because that's what Hangsen is doing here in my opinion. They act as if they are all honorable business men and that's just not so they are not. !!! and even at that they will shove a knife in your back and make a bootleg and bring it to market and cut your throat on price !! Go ask Gucci or any of the designers, they lose Billions a year to these manufacturers who work like this,, enough said on this.!! The buck stops right here as far as where the DC Echo evolved ! it was right out back in my shop and that's a fact ! And who get's them is now all up to Hangsen and that's the bottom line !
Be a sure of one other thing, I've taken it a step further and have come up with an even a newer design with these Echo Carto's and it won't be just handed over this time the way it was with the DC Echo it will be done the right way
How about we end this so everyone knows the honest truth here ! The truth is that I, MWA, made the first Echo Dual coil carto here in my small shop while modding one of them !!! I then gave this idea and how I did it to a supplier. He then in return had Hangsen make them ! That in fact is how the dual coil Echo evolved and that's no BS !
I think it is kind of rotten that Hangsen doesn't give that Vendor an exclusive for supplying them with the idea and exactly how it was done, or at the bear minimum give that Vendor at least a 60-90 days exclusive on them, it would only be the right & fair thing to do.
However I'm agreeing with Donald Trump now on what I think should be done these days with how these people do business. I have no favorites and enjoy all the ECF vendors and people here on this forum, this includes Bill, Tony, Dennis, all of the Echo suppliers there all nice people, but business is business and a handshake means nothing in this world anymore when you do business across the pond and in another country. Without signed contracts you obviously have nothing and that's kind of a shame in a way to trust someone and then they stab you in the back because that's what Hangsen is doing here in my opinion. They act as if they are all honorable business men and that's just not so they are not. !!! and even at that they will shove a knife in your back and make a bootleg and bring it to market and cut your throat on price !! Go ask Gucci or any of the designers, they lose Billions a year to these manufacturers who work like this,, enough said on this.!! The buck stops right here as far as where the DC Echo evolved ! it was right out back in my shop and that's a fact ! And who get's them is now all up to Hangsen and that's the bottom line !
Be a sure of one other thing, I've taken it a step further and have come up with an even a newer design with these Echo Carto's and it won't be just handed over this time the way it was with the DC Echo it will be done the right way
Does it surprise you that the Chinese bent this over a barrel? It doesn't me. I used to buy what I thought was authentic products only to find out they were cheap China knockoffs. Now, I pay better attention. Sorry to hear that this happened to you mwa. I'm sure yours was far more superior than what the Chinese did to them. Plus, I would buy USA made over Chinese stuff anyday even if it means paying more for it.
Anyhoo..I don't know which vendor everyone is speaking about but I don't care. Bill has always been very helpful so I'll always come back to him for more products. He's helped me when I totally screwed up my mailing address (don't ask...codeine does weird things to me). None-the-less, Bill's the man that I'll deal with (even if he has a skunk on his head j/k).
Just one 5 pack until I find out how good they are. If they're really good, I'll stock up.
WOW! I think I will just take my echo that I got from Tony with my carto that I got from Bill loaded with my coffee and cream from Goodejuice and go sit in the corner and watch my I Love Lucy Dvds while this one is hashed over!
what is there to hash over. I think everyone knows he came up with the idea. I haven't seen any posts that say otherwise anywhere.
Ya like Bill says not so harsh, I'm way past it believe me I am, lesson learned and moved on ( Next ) Vendors should work together though and work smart as well, there is plenty of business to go round here no need to argue or talk bad about one another. Heck how many are even selling the Echo goods, you guys should all pick up the dam phone and chat to one another, I didn't say that, and price setting is against the law, but working the manufacturers isn't and theres the secret way to play them instead of them playing you ! Believe me there doing it to you all in a bad way, it could be the other way around !
Vendors should work together though and work smart as well, there is plenty of business to go round here no need to argue or talk bad about one another. Heck how many are even selling the Echo goods, you guys should all pick up the dam phone and chat to one another, I didn't say that, and price setting is against the law, but working the manufacturers isn't and theres the secret way to play them instead of them playing you ! Believe me there doing it to you all in a bad way, it could be the other way around !
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better than last night! AND THAT IS THE NEIGHBORs CAT! I SWEAR IT IS!
As long as it isn't my cat! Glad you're better
I love cats! as long as they don't trespass into my yard and get my birds and other critters!
LOL...I love ya Bill...have you found out about the echo-e duals yet?
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