Dangers Of Building Very Low

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I have been building for 2 weeks. I want to build a .15 coil. What are some things I need to be aware of when doing so, like dangers involved etc. (not how to build it). I have been building on a smok alien. I'm new and need just some more knowledge to avoid danger for when building low. I'm about to use heat treated stainless steel 24g 8 wraps with a 3mm inside diameter.
 

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OK, here's a question. Why do you want to build a 0.15 ohm coil? You're using a regulated mod so you can supply whatever power you want to your coil/tank. What advantage will a 0.15 ohm coil accomplish for you rather than a 0.25 ohm or even 0.5 ohm coil with the wattage adjusted appropriately to the build?
 

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OK, here's a question. Why do you want to build a 0.15 ohm coil? You're using a regulated mod so you can supply whatever power you want to your coil/tank. What advantage will a 0.15 ohm coil accomplish for you rather than a 0.25 ohm or even 0.5 ohm coil with the wattage adjusted appropriately to the build?
Wouldn't I get a bigger cloud with lower ohm and higher wattage?
 

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I'm sorry if I seem blunt; but if you have to ask about the safety considerations for building a .15 ohm coil, you're not ready to build a .15 ohm coil. You need to study and learn ohms law, as it applies to battery selection and safety.
 

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Wouldn't I get a bigger cloud with lower ohm and higher wattage?

No. Bigger cloud will come from the coil build (type of coil, not just resistance) and amount of airflow. You can turn your wattage up however you want until you either get steam burns in your mouth, or a really, really big cloud that you want. Hopefully the cloud first.
 

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I'm sorry if I seem blunt; but if you have to ask about the safety considerations for building a .15 ohm coil, you're not ready to build a .15 ohm coil. You need to study and learn ohms law, as it applies to battery selection and safety.
I understand. But I do know very much about building a coil. I just need to know the basic safety precautions when building as low as .15 but I am not a beginner too this to need to learn ohms law from the start
 

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Wouldn't I get a bigger cloud with lower ohm and higher wattage?

In another thread you asked about higher wattage and lower resistance. Low resistance does not necessarily require higher wattage, its all about coil mass. If you are used to running 22AWG dual coils at lets say .25ohms and 75W then building lower resistance will require less wire, thus reducing your coil mass and will also result in using less wattage for optimal use.

If you want to increase your cloud production then its partly in the build and mostly in lung capacity.

If you really want to increase the mass of your coil for a lower resistance build that requires more wattage then you need to build heavier and more complex coils. Claptons and Twisted wires are good place to start, but then there's fused claptons, alien wire, zippers, and so on.
 

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On a regulated mod very little in itself. On mech mods it's the only way of getting more power.

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So then the safety issue
In another thread you asked about higher wattage and lower resistance. Low resistance does not necessarily require higher wattage, its all about coil mass. If you are used to running 22AWG dual coils at lets say .25ohms and 75W then building lower resistance will require less wire, thus reducing your coil mass and will also result in using less wattage for optimal use.

If you want to increase your cloud production then its partly in the build and mostly in lung capacity.

If you really want to increase the mass of your coil for a lower resistance build that requires more wattage then you need to build heavier and more complex coils. Claptons and Twisted wires are good place to start, but then there's fused claptons, alien wire, zippers, and so on.
So even building a .3 coil can get the same amount of vapor as a .15 if you apply proper wattage to the .3?
 
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Its all about placement and air flow :)
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You need air flow over and under the coils :)
This one is built at .25 I run it on a Time Keeper mech mod, I can make my car look like it's on fire at a red light ;)
 

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Arguably a .3 could actually produce MORE vapor than the .15 if you use the same exact type of coil and all thats changing is your resistance. For example, dual claptons at .3 would need much more wattage than dual claptons at .15(same guages used for both), the .3 would produce more vapor per second and then once again its all about lung capacity.
 
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So then the safety issue

So even building a .3 coil can get the same amount of vapor as a .15 if you apply proper wattage to the .3?
If you're using a regulated mod a .15 coil is no less safe than a .3, .5, or even 1.5Ω coil.

Different builds handle different power levels. Check steam-engine.org and design your coil there. Pay attention to the heat flux at the wattage you want to vape at. A coil with more mass (i.e. more wire, thicker gauge) will handle more power but also take longer to heat up and cool down (check the "heat capacity" for that).

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I have been building for 2 weeks. I want to build a .15 coil. What are some things I need to be aware of when doing so, like dangers involved etc. (not how to build it). I have been building on a Smok Alien. I'm new and need just some more knowledge to avoid danger for when building low. I'm about to use heat treated stainless steel 24g 8 wraps with a 3mm inside diameter.
Your Alien will regulate how low you can build. If it detects the ohms are too low, it won't fire.
I think most vapers think low ohm builds are sexy. I did for a while. But after living with low ohm (sub 0.2) I have gone back to my sweet spot of 0.3-0.4. Within my sweet spot I get a good balance of flavor and cloud. Ramp up time is non existent as I don't use 24guage wires.
Try your 0.13 build (if your mod can handle it). See if you like it. Compare flavor, cloud, ramp up time, wick life and coil life to your previous builds to determine what's best for you.


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Build a dual parallel at .5 = all the clouds I need I did one time build a 4x dual twisted came out to .05 on a mech it was risky but dual parallel batts I vaped it 4 puffs just to see what it would do it was hot as hell with vary big clouds I then pulled it and did something different now days I'm .25-.5 is good for me


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