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I know I have vaped all the bad stuff for years because no one was concerned early on about these things. It also seems I like everything that has the bad stuff LOL But I had some major problems with Capella's when I started DIY in 2012 and I was coughing, loosing my breath and all and it was a set back, so tried to stick with FW and TFA because they didn't bother me. But some of Capella's had the best flavors. I want to try a few CAP again at a low % and see if I can take it. Some butter flavor gave me fits too, so there is something I am reacting too.
That's smart. Recognize something isn't agreeing with you and try to identify it. Doing this with the minimum number of ingredients may not make for the tastiest juice; but it will be the fastest, and most accurate method to narrow down the culprit(s).
For me, the only way I have found that I can narrow down a problem flavor, or find a flavor's sweet spot; is to mix it with an unflavored base (PG, VG, nic) that I understand (meaning I already know each of the three ingredients work together for me), and slowly add (in measured increments - could be drops, mL, or mg) the flavor in question until I understand how it behaves for me. Only then can I say "I don't like this flavor," or "this flavor doesn't like me," or "I like this flavor best around X%."
Again, for me, if I have multiple unexplored ingredients, and I have an unfavorable experience, I don't know if it unknown ingredient "A," or "B," or "A+B." So, I'll either keep stumbling along in the dark (likely to repeat bad results), avoid all the "unknowns" in the future (and possibly miss out on something good... the thought of which drives me nuts! :lol: ), or I have to stop and examine them individually until I get it figured out.
I am a touch OCD; can you tell? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
The highest VG I can handle is 50-50. So there is something I am reacting too. But I love CAP flavors, may try some again just to narrow it down on what it is.
Two thoughts on CAP (not knowing how long ago you used them: CAP has added a lot of "V2" versions of their more popular flavors trying to make them safer; and, when you were using them, was that in conjunction to your higher VG days? Perhaps it wasn't even the CAP you were reacting to. Just thinking out loud... ;)
I am trying 50-50 right now and I notice I do better at 60-40 for PG/VG, high VG makes my lungs hurt, they feel heavy and congested. Always tweaking for the best experience :)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with high PG mixes as long as you are not sensitive to PG and do not mind the extra throat hit (which some are more conscious of than others). The majority of people mixing high VG are doing so to blow clouds, avoid PG (PG sensitivity), reduce dry-mouth, or are trying to control flood issues with certain tanks (and different wicking techniques might fix that). There are even some that mix without VG at all. Mix for what works best for you! AND keeps you from going back to the stinky-sticks!! :D
I have discovered, in my vaping journey, that high VG + chain vaping can give me a tight feeling in my chest. And, if I spend several days chain vaping, I can even develop a phlegmy cough. If I reduce the VG ratio and/or reduce how much I am vaping the tightness/cough goes right away.
 

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I am going to try the Capella V2 flavors, sample size, and some Real Flavor brand ones too. I am now officially a DIY junkie LOL! When I think of all the $'s I spent on pre-made juice thru the years, geez I could have bought more mods!
 

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I am going to try the Capella V2 flavors, sample size, and some Real Flavor brand ones too. I am now officially a DIY junkie LOL! When I think of all the $'s I spent on pre-made juice thru the years, geez I could have bought more mods!
Naw! Not more mods; more flavors!! :D When I first switched to vaping I thought about all the money I would save. Then I started buying hardware... didn't save very much. Then I saw how much DIY could save... wrong again. I could buy all the hardware I own two (or more :facepalm: ) times over in what I have wrapped up in DIY stuff! And the worst thing is even though I have in excess of 230 flavors; I still can barely go more than a day without seeing a recipe I would like to try that doesn't have at least one flavor I still don't have. :shock:
 

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Naw! Not more mods; more flavors!! :D When I first switched to vaping I thought about all the money I would save. Then I started buying hardware... didn't save very much. Then I saw how much DIY could save... wrong again. I could buy all the hardware I own two (or more :facepalm: ) times over in what I have wrapped up in DIY stuff! And the worst thing is even though I have in excess of 230 flavors; I still can barely go more than a day without seeing a recipe I would like to try that doesn't have at least one flavor I still don't have. :shock:
I'm having an issue with how to keep my flavoring where I can see it. I want to use shelves like a shallow pantry. I'm hitting around 150 flavors now. Maybe a bit less. Possibly more. I hate digging in ziplocks looking for that 1 cream by brand X, & repeating for that 1 fruit, etc. I wanna walk up to a shelf, pick them out, & put them back when done. I'm thinking on it, as we say.
 

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I'm having an issue with how to keep my flavoring where I can see it. I want to use shelves like a shallow pantry. I'm hitting around 150 flavors now. Maybe a bit less. Possibly more. I hate digging in ziplocks looking for that 1 cream by brand X, & repeating for that 1 fruit, etc. I wanna walk up to a shelf, pick them out, & put them back when done. I'm thinking on it, as we say.
I have some of my flavors in plastic containers, but I need to sort them by flavors for each container, all bakery in one, all fruit in another, teas in one, etc. I think it will make it easier, I hope :)
 

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I'm having an issue with how to keep my flavoring where I can see it. I want to use shelves like a shallow pantry. I'm hitting around 150 flavors now. Maybe a bit less. Possibly more. I hate digging in ziplocks looking for that 1 cream by brand X, & repeating for that 1 fruit, etc. I wanna walk up to a shelf, pick them out, & put them back when done. I'm thinking on it, as we say.
I posted this over on the TFA thread back in May and it is still working:
Hobby Lobby Photo Storage Box
I simply have theme in alphabetical order by name (no regard to mfg.) but you can sort them however you like.
 

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Mix for what works best for you! AND keeps you from going back to the stinky-sticks!! :D

That's been the basis of my entire journey with vaping. I have tried different levels of mixing my PG/VG - anywhere from 80/20 to 20/80. Did not find anything that was any better than the last for my purposes. Currently vaping at 50/50 just to use up the extra VG I have...
 

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I can see where collecting flavors is as much of an obsession as it is collecting tanks and mods! LOL I have a huge list now but will stick with sample sizes until I know what is a must have flavor :) I have quite a few already but many are small sample sizes I got years ago.
 

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I'm having an issue with how to keep my flavoring where I can see it. I want to use shelves like a shallow pantry. I'm hitting around 150 flavors now. Maybe a bit less. Possibly more. I hate digging in ziplocks looking for that 1 cream by brand X, & repeating for that 1 fruit, etc. I wanna walk up to a shelf, pick them out, & put them back when done. I'm thinking on it, as we say.
Right now I use an IKEA Helmer rolling cabinet. HELMER Drawer unit on casters - white - IKEA
It's very good for storing bottles up to 30 ml, though it won't hold the 2 oz. bullet type bottles (like nicotine river uses) with the dropper tops attached. I have over 200 bottles in my Helmer with empty drawers and room to spare. I sort by brand, then by flavoring type. My TFA drawer is the fullest. I group the bottles in a way that makes sense to me (vanillas, dairy, cake and cookies, fruits, tobaccos, additives, etc) and line them up so I always know where to look. I've got my drawers more or less memorized.

What I really want is this.. ALEX Drawer unit - white - IKEA
The bottom drawers have clearance for 250 ml bottles with dropper caps. Also I like that it isn't on casters. My bottles tend to fall like dominoes if I bump my Helmer and send it rolling. :)
 

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I have some of my flavors in plastic containers, but I need to sort them by flavors for each container, all bakery in one, all fruit in another, teas in one, etc. I think it will make it easier, I hope :)
Mine are in ziplocks by profile. Custards, creams in one. Bakery in one. Enhancers, sweetners in one. Tobaccos in one. Coffees, chocolates, & nuts in one. Fruits in one. Like that. But when any bag has +20 bottles, sorting doesn't = easy when you still have to unload each bag & look at every label. I want them on a shelf so I can just scan them instead of having to handle every bottle.
I found some plastic wall mount nailpolish racks & am thinking of mounting them to a bigger piece of plastic to make one big unit that can mount over a door or hang on a wall.
 

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I've been vaping this one the last few days and it's really good... :D

Blueberry Cream Glazed Doughnut

Glazed Doughnut (CAP) 8%
Blueberry (CAP) 4%
*Vanilla Cupcake (CAP) 2%
*Vanilla Custard (CAP) 2%
Butter Cream (CAP) 1%
Vanilla Whipped Cream (CAP) 1%
Sweetner (Sucralose) 1%

30/70 PG/VG .6mg

Age 10 days to 2 weeks

*Some flavors in the recipe have V1 or V2 versions. I have used both in various iterations to make this one. I haven't noticed a significant difference either way. YMMV... :cool:
 

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I'm having an issue with how to keep my flavoring where I can see it. I want to use shelves like a shallow pantry. I'm hitting around 150 flavors now.

I have some of my flavors in plastic containers, but I need to sort them by flavors for each container, all bakery in one, all fruit in another, teas in one, etc. I think it will make it easier, I hope

I hope the following makes sense the way I've explained it. It's how I started arranging my flavorings when I first started buying them for DIY. So far, it's worked very well for me!

An easy way of being able to find specific flavorings (without having to see anything but the cap on the bottle or vial)...is to use a fine-tip paint marker and number their caps. Then make a list of the numbers and the corresponding flavorings. (Early on when buying flavorings, I decided not to number them in ABC order, or by flavoring type, etc., because I knew I would be getting more as time went on. I didn't want to later have new ones out of ABC order, or mixed in with another type. So I just numbered them as I got them. That way, there's no numbering problem or mix up.)

I also keep/use just 8mL sizes of all flavorings, in glass vials, in my sectioned mixing case...to use when I make my eliquids. I have vials number 1-16 in 1 section, 17-33 in the 2nd section, etc., etc. The index cards I used (with the list of numbers & flavorings on them) are taped to the inside of the clear plastic case lid...so when it's open as I'm mixing, I can see them easily. Also in the case are a 2oz. working bottle of PG, 1 of VG, and 1 of my Nic base. Syringes of several types & a variety of blunt needle tips are also in there, as well as some 30mL and 50mL empty dropper bottles. All I need come mixing time is to grab the case and my recipe cards.

On my recipe cards, I also included the flavoring # beside the name of the flavoring. So when making a recipe...I just pull those numbered vials from my case. When finished making it...they each go back into their previous spaces again.

I know now you're probably thinking, "But what about the flavorings in 30mL and 120 sized bottles? Don't you have some of those?" I have those sizes all in a couple medium flat rate PM boxes, with their caps also numbered according to their flavoring. I only need to pull any of those out when it's time to replenish its little 8mL vial in my case with more. Keeping only the 8mL vial of each in my case makes it lighter to carry around. I also don't need to open the larger bottles of flavorings as often either...exposing them to light and air more frequently than necessary.
 
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I hope the following makes sense the way I've explained it. It's how I started arranging my flavorings when I first started buying them for DIY. So far, it's worked very well for me!

An easy way of being able to find specific flavorings (without having to see anything but the cap on the bottle or vial)...is to use a fine-tip paint marker and number their caps. Then make a list of the numbers and the corresponding flavorings. (Early on when buying flavorings, I decided not to number them in ABC order, or by flavoring type, etc., because I knew I would be getting more as time went on. I didn't want to later have new ones out of ABC order, or mixed in with another type. So I just numbered them as I got them. That way, there's no numbering problem or mix up.)

I also keep/use just 8mL sizes of all flavorings, in glass vials, in my sectioned mixing case...to use when I make my eliquids. I have vials number 1-16 in 1 section, 17-33 in the 2nd section, etc., etc. The index cards I used (with the list of numbers & flavorings on them) are taped to the inside of the clear plastic case lid...so when it's open as I'm mixing, I can see them easily.

On my recipe cards, I also included the flavoring # beside the name of the flavoring. So when making a recipe...I just pull those numbered vials from my case. When finished making it...they each go back into their previous spaces again.

I know now you're probably thinking, "But what about the flavorings in 30mL and 120 sized bottles? Don't you have some of those?" I have those sizes all in a couple medium flat rate PM boxes, with their caps also numbered according to their flavoring. I only need to pull any of those out when it's time to replenish its little 8mL vial in my case with more. Keeping only the 8mL vial of each in my case makes it lighter to carry around. I also don't need to open the larger bottles of flavorings as often either...exposing them to light and air more frequently than necessary.
:thumbs: Good system!
 

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Forgot to say above why I chose to use 8mL vials for all my "working amounts" of flavorings. Main reason was because that's the size I bought my first 25 flavorings in from WL. They fit well in my mixing supplies case, and I found I didn't need to replenish them very often either.

I also found a seller on eBay who sold more of the 8mL glass vials for a good price. So I bought them by the dozens from her, to use for breaking down the larger bottles of flavorings I started buying afterwards, too. So all flavorings will always have their own little vial in my mixing case. I'm up to 126 flavorings so far!
 
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