DCT vs regular clearomizers

[Ryan Bennett]

ok, I have been vaping for a few months now, I purchased an ego kit about a month ago, and I love it. I have been using ce5's mostly, and I have an Evod which I hate. It seems like I've been having a lot of problems with the ce5's and the evod was trouble when I first got it. in your opinion are the dct's better than say a vivi nova? I just want something that I don't have to worry about leaking all the time. I just purchased some T3's so I'm going to try those out first, but if I have problems with those i'm going to start hunting for something else. I know how to rebuild the atomizers and all that, but I really don't want to mess with that. I would be fine buying new carts/heads or whatever when the old ones are burnt out. Any suggestions?

 

[Abbell]

I like the Kanger Pro with a lower Ohm coil, but if you don't like the Evod that may be out. If you don't like the T3s then go back to a top coil. They give a warmer vape. The VV Nova is great.. a little had to pull. The Iclear 30 works well, but if you use real thick juices it may not be the choice for you as I found sometimes on head won''t saturate as well as the other and does not taste as good.

 

[Rickb119]

I wonder if you got an evod with a bad seal. I have several and have never had any problems. I once bought a t3 that I threw away the same day because it leaked so bad. Didn't bother to take it back because it would have cost me more in gas than the thing was worth. I'll bet it just had a bad seal.

 

[rotku]

ok, I have been vaping for a few months now, I purchased an ego kit about a month ago, and I love it. I have been using ce5's mostly, and I have an Evod which I hate. It seems like I've been having a lot of problems with the ce5's and the evod was trouble when I first got it. in your opinion are the dct's better than say a vivi nova? I just want something that I don't have to worry about leaking all the time. I just purchased some T3's so I'm going to try those out first, but if I have problems with those i'm going to start hunting for something else. I know how to rebuild the atomizers and all that, but I really don't want to mess with that. I would be fine buying new carts/heads or whatever when the old ones are burnt out. Any suggestions?

The clearo style stuff (evod, vivi nova, ce5's) are convenient but not necessarily the 'best' options for taste or vapor. However, you will find plenty of people that swear by them. I guess if you were to rank delivery options top to bottom it might look like.... 1) Dripping attys 2) RBA's 3) cartos, carto/ tanks 4) clearos top coil 5) clearos bottom coil 6) pre-filled cartos. Again, many people would freely rearrange this list to suit their style. I prefer the carto/ tank option but also use the Kanger t-2 top coil. If you are already using the CE5 then the ViviNova will not be a significant game changer for you. You might do a little research on the DCT (carto/ tank) option. IMHO you will notice an immediate gain in flavor and vapor production. There are many other variables (vape wattage, pg/vg mix) to vaping. You might seek out 'Baditude's' blog if you are venturing into carto/ tanks, it is a good starting point. Properly set up, there is very little leaking issues with a carto/ tank. Starting out you might flood a few because there is a learning curve, after that it is smooth sailing.

 

[Ryan Bennett]

OK will I be satisfied with only using an ego c with a carto/tank I don't have a vv and hadn't really planned on getting one. I'm happy with what I have now.....

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[rotku]

OK will I be satisfied with only using an ego c with a carto/tank I don't have a vv and hadn't really planned on getting one. I'm happy with what I have now.....

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Yes, you would want to get a single coil carto in the 1.8 to 2.0ohm range. The ego-c is fixed voltage at around 3.4 volts.

 

[Ryan Bennett]

I can use that with a tank though right?

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[vjc0628]

Been using T3's and Evod's they have been great, much better flav then vivi and protank
My local Band M sold me on the CE5 said it will take me to the next level
WOW they are awful
and another note I just started using a carto tank with boge carto this has been even better the T3's and Evod's

 

[rotku]

Yes. For additional clarification, it is the same as using your ego-c with a straight up cartomizer. With any device, you would want to match the battery voltage to the delivery device resistance. In the case of an ego-C fixed voltage that would be about 1.8 to 2.0 ohms. With that set up you would be vaping between 6 and 7 watts. With a naked cartomizer you would need to add e-liquid frequently to keep the fill material moist and not get dry hits. What the tank does is eliminate the need to constantly refill the cartomizer. Here are some links that might better explain.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...k-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

 

[Ryan Bennett]

no that was a perfect explanation but I will still check out the links when I get a chance. So what DCT would you recommend? I was looking at the smoktech 3.5ml then get a boge single coil to go with it. I'm hitting up the vape expo today in Michigan, so maybe I can score something there. I am just so sick of these wicks, it wasn't bad when I first starter but now it's a pain. but I just got them because they were cheap. I'm still going to give the t3's a try when I get them, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[tj99959]

My one suggestion is to forget about the DCT and get a good carto tank. The DCT (from Smoktech) is scraping the bottom of the barrel for carto tanks IMO. The Smoktech DCT was designed to lock you into using their cartos.

I use this tank
ElectronicStix.Com · Standard J-Tank (3.3ml)
and these cartos
ElectronicStix.Com · 510 Punched Cartomizers
Get the "510 Low Resistance" for your eGo battery

 

[Ryan Bennett]

I haven't decided what tank to get yet hopefully they have some at the expo and I can check some out there.

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[Lombaowski]

My one suggestion is to forget about the DCT and get a good carto tank. The DCT (from Smoktech) is scraping the bottom of the barrel for carto tanks IMO. The Smoktech DCT was designed to lock you into using their cartos.

I use this tank
ElectronicStix.Com · Standard J-Tank (3.3ml)
and these cartos
ElectronicStix.Com · 510 Punched Cartomizers
Get the "510 Low Resistance" for your eGo battery

The SMOKTECH Aretmas tank is my favorite vape vessel, so I guess I'm in for a treat when I get my Phiniac tank with a Boge carto. I like the protanks and the evod bccs also, but the carto tanks are really a different level of flavor and vape. I think they are more involved though, the cleros are basically fill and vape while the carto tanks require more maintenance and care. What are your favorite tanks?

 

[Ryan Bennett]

and my bad I don't have an ego c, it's just a plain ego, if that makes any difference.

 

[tj99959]

and my bad I don't have an ego c, it's just a plain ego, if that makes any difference.

Nope, doesn't make a bit of difference, only difference between a T/C ego bat and a normal eGo bat is the 5 click on/off. You also have the "upgrade 3.4/3.7 bat, and then the twist.

 

[GinAndJewce]

The SMOKTECH Aretmas tank is my favorite vape vessel, so I guess I'm in for a treat when I get my Phiniac tank with a Boge carto. I like the protanks and the evod bccs also, but the carto tanks are really a different level of flavor and vape. I think they are more involved though, the cleros are basically fill and vape while the carto tanks require more maintenance and care. What are your favorite tanks?

could u elaborate for us novices exactly what more maintenance they require? i just keep reading/hearing/seeing that carto/tanks are the end result of trying to elevate your "vape game" and maximize flavor/vapor.

 

[Ryan Bennett]

I didn't get to go to the vape expo but there's a place not too far from here that has some dcts and the single coil carts. So I'm going there tomorrow and I'll let you know what I think.

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[tj99959]

could u elaborate for us novices exactly what more maintenance they require? i just keep reading/hearing/seeing that carto/tanks are the end result of trying to elevate your "vape game" and maximize flavor/vapor.

Actually carto tanks require less maintenance than a clearo tank. It's just that their use is more difficult to explain over the interweb.

 

[Baditude]

could u elaborate for us novices exactly what more maintenance they require? i just keep reading/hearing/seeing that carto/tanks are the end result of trying to elevate your "vape game" and maximize flavor/vapor.

Once you have the methodology down, it will take about 10 minutes to set up cartotank. After that it is maintanance free. When the tank get low on juice, just push the carto down halfway, add more juice, then pop the carto back up into place. At some point (after approximately 25 - 30 ml of juice), the carto will have a stiff draw and need to be replaced.

I made a cartotank setup guide which has step-by-step instructions which makes cartotanks easy:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

Some people just empty and save the remaining juice, replace the old carto with a freshly primed one, add the saved juice and are good to go again. Others will remove the juice, clean their tank (simple rinsing under running water is fine), and then add a primed carto.

So aside from the initial 10 minute setup, cartotanks are maintanance free. Having a tank tool such as the Slap Yo Moma tank tool really saves time filling and assembling the tank, and also protects the tank's o-rings from unnecessary wear and tear. A PBusardo Review - Slap Yo Mama Multi-Purpose Adapter - Big Daddy Vapor - YouTube

Slap Yo Moma tank accessory tool - indespensible

 

[Lombaowski]

could u elaborate for us novices exactly what more maintenance they require? i just keep reading/hearing/seeing that carto/tanks are the end result of trying to elevate your "vape game" and maximize flavor/vapor.

I'm pretty much a novice myself, but I don't see how carto tanks are easier to maintain than clearos.

With clearos like the Protank you just unscrew the bottom, put the juice in, replace bottom and vape. When the wicks start to go you swap out the coil head, rinse and repeat. You can get into wick and coil replacement but I'm talking about just standard operating procedures here.

With the carto tanks you need a tool for optimum fill, you have to fill the carto first, then let it settle, then fill the tank. You might have to punch holes in the cartos, lining the flange up isn't always that easy and when the tanks get low the carto seems to dry up meaning you have to take it all apart again. I know some DCT carto tanks are a little easier to work with but there are always going to be more balls in the air, so I don't see how it could ever be simpler than using a clearo. But IMO the taste and vape is better. Is it exponentially better than a clearo? No, but I think it's enough to go through a few extra steps to make up the difference.