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Dear Mr President...

Discussion in 'Media and General News' started by WhiteHighlights, Apr 19, 2015.

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  1. WhiteHighlights

    WhiteHighlights Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 26, 2013
    Boston, MA, USA
  2. Tache

    Tache Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 25, 2013
    BC Canada
    I'm not sure if that's your position, but here's how it looks from "Up-north". I'll speak for just myself,many others may agree or not, but I for one was absolutely overjoyed to see an intelligent, caring person elected to the presidency of the US. It appears that every "good" thing he was trying to do was derailed by people who could not get over the fact that he was black. Now, as I've stated before, I have an imperfect understanding of US history. It just makes me sad that his advisors have had to point him in directions he probably doesn't want to go. No wonder he's so grey so soon.

    As someone who has struggled with smoking, I would hazard a guess that he (if provided with facts) would be a strong supporter of vaping.
     
  3. Kent C

    Kent C ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    NW Ohio US
    Even though through our media, you'd think differently, but there's only a small faction (Aryan/National Socialist-types) that care that our President is black, other than the people who voted for him for that reason alone. More care about what his policies are, rather than his skin color. Same with a possible woman president, or a Hispanic. If it ends up that Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz is President, there will be no mention in the major news media about their race - it will be all about their politics. If there is criticism, Fox News, for example, will not make the point (as main stream media has done with Obama) that race is a factor.

    And... not much of what Obama has been 'derailed'. As far as transforming America, he's been pretty successful. His main advisor, Valerie Jarrett, who some say is the real President, has done a stellar job in bringing that about.
     
  4. Robert Cromwell

    Robert Cromwell Moved On ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2015
    elsewhere
    I would love to see the president blowing clouds.
     
  5. Kent C

    Kent C ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    NW Ohio US
    Me too. And I bet he'd like to. That might even change things. :)
     
  6. Tache

    Tache Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 25, 2013
    BC Canada
    So I'm not sure what to make of that - again from an "outside" perspective It appeared as if he was trying to help make life better for people who were at a a serious disadvantage. I honestly want to understand what was actually going on.

    So as not to hijack this thread, please feel free to PM me. I really do want to understand.
     
  7. Robert Cromwell

    Robert Cromwell Moved On ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2015
    elsewhere
    What if Putin started tootin?
     
  8. inspects

    inspects Squonkamaniac Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 15, 2014
    Arizona, Ecuador
    I think Obama is the worst president in American history...and wouldn't care if his skin color was green or purple.
     
  9. WillyZee

    WillyZee Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 23, 2013
    Toronto
    I think Obama probably still smokes ... he should get one of those Stealth Provaris and some Castle Long Reserve :blink:
     
  10. stevegmu

    stevegmu Moved On ECF Veteran

    I'd rather have V. Putin as president...
     
  11. nicnik

    nicnik Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2015
    Illinois, USA
    You know where to go, then.
    That is if you really mean it. Thousands of miles away, but there is a way to get your wish.
     
  12. stevegmu

    stevegmu Moved On ECF Veteran

    Been there, lived there...V. Putin loves his country...
     
  13. Kent C

    Kent C ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    NW Ohio US
    Basically, it wasn't the intent of our gov't as it was formed to 'make life better for people who are at a serious disadvantage'. It was to uphold the natural rights of individuals equally before the law* and not benefit one class over another. At the start, there were sad exceptions to that, that were corrected decades later. There would have been no "United States" otherwise. Whether that would have been good or bad, is up for discussion, but that was the case then - a practice (slavery and secondary status for women) that was a holdover from English colonialism, which existed at the time, in a much smaller form, in Canada even.

    *not to bring total equality of every aspect of human life - that's impossible. But before the law, individuals in the US should be treated equal. Unfortunately, that concept has not always been upheld, but that is how it was originally conceived and written into law. Any further discussion will go to PM.
     
  14. Firestorm

    Firestorm Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 25, 2012
    Chicagoland
    The birthers and those who claimed he was a Muslim jumped on him early before he had time to impact much policy. Even though they are a minority, they are certainly a vocal group (and our media tends to focus and propagate sensational stories rather than deliver news).
     
  15. Maiar

    Maiar Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    You mean he isn't a Muslim? So I guess there's no nationwide Sharia law then? What about the Islamic No Go Zones? Are they real? I'm wondering about the FEMA death camps now too... don't tell me they don't exist either? I don't see how he can't just do whatever he wants as president since he's taken all your guns and allowed the homosexuals to round up all the christians to be put into concentration camps so there's no one around to fight back against the terrorists sneaking in through the Mexico border. Right?

    Or have the Republicans been lying all this time?
     
  16. Kent C

    Kent C ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2009
    NW Ohio US
    The 'birther' idea was started by Hillary Clinton supporters in an anonymous email which was tracked back and widely acknowledged as the beginning of the birther idea.

    Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Origins of the claims

    During the Democratic Party's 2008 presidential primaries, anonymous e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton surfaced that questioned Obama's citizenship in an attempt to revive Clinton's faltering primary election campaign. These and numerous other chain e-mails during the subsequent presidential election circulated false rumors about Obama's origin, religion and birth certificate. [25] [26]


    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html

    That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

    “Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.


    This didn't help either:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bill-clinton-told-ted-kennedy-obama-coffee-years-game-change-article-1.197492

    Just replying to the comment. No intent to extend it beyond that. PM if you have questions/comments....
     
  17. stevegmu

    stevegmu Moved On ECF Veteran

    What is quite amusing is vapers who support the Administration and other 'progressives' support their anti vaping policies by default... In the end they will get the policies, regulations and taxes they deserve...
     
  18. Firestorm

    Firestorm Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 25, 2012
    Chicagoland
    Vaping rights (anti-regulation) has become a wedge issue for me.
     
  19. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Every presidential office resident will change over time. I'm surprised that the last two were two term presidents. We need a leader with insight and a true love for America. Being president is not necessarily about succumbing to the demands of the world. It's about gaining strength for your country against those who are building strength for their own country.

    The term America First has merit. When America is strong, the world benefits. We've floundered for too many years.

    Vaping is suffering from money issues. Big Tobacco is still paying off the tobacco settlement money over time. States have borrowed money against future payments from tobacco companies, so they are polarized against anything that lowers tobacco sales. Tobacco sales are being reduced by those who quit and by those who vape. It's not about health, but about money for the states. Vaping isn't part of the settlement and the states get no money from Vapers. Vaping reduces tobacco sales and that's not good for for future settlement payments to the states. They need those tobacco settlement payments to pay off the loans they made.
     
  20. Jethead

    Jethead Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 1, 2013
    Hampton, Virginia
    DaveP, you are a wise man!
     
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