Defining terms: Throat Kick

[leaford]

Simple and short, what do you mean by Throat Kick?

Harshness, scratchiness?

Or Fullness, and volume? The feeling that there's more than air?

Or something else?

If we get many "something else" answers, we can always do a new poll.

And discuss...

 

[Frankie]

I define it as written in the other thread of yours by another user: As a feeling that I am inhaling *something*, not just air. Does not have to scratch or be harsh. Definitely Fullness, maybe some Volume (not that important). Actually it does not have to "kick", but it should "fill" my throat.

 

[smokum]

Option #2 for me. I compare it to the fullness and satisfaction feeling you get when you take a haul off an analog.

Not the harsh, scratchy where your on the verge of a cough feeling like when you take a haul off of cheap ......... well, you know

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[tribalmasters]

I voted for the wrong thing, I meant the fullness one but with a mild tinglyness like an analogue

 

[typan]

Frankie hit the nail on the head there. A definite feeling of fullness, something going down your throat, I'm not looking for a cough but I need that satisfaction of it going down. At the moment I'm finding menthol is doing it for me.

 

[efaglil]

Definitely option 2. Glad we're defining, now I can go and answer your other poll and you'll know what I'm talking about...

 

[xpdx]

It's one of those things that most smokers seem to understand intuitively but have a hard time describing.. For me it's defiantly a feeling of "fullness" but it's more than that too. When I get a good hit I can feel my lungs go sort of numb and the back of my throat feels like I'm drinking smoke.. see, hard to describe.

I think one of the feelings for me is "this must be bad for me"- not painful really but definitely kind of masochistic- I get some sort of twisted satisfaction from it. Probably just an association with the nicotine rush i get shortly thereafter..

 

[tr1age]

A word that makes me want to throw myself out the 18th story floor of a building.


(you made this thread to SPITE ME!!!!!!)

 

[leaford]

OK, now the follow up question, If we define Throat Kick as option #2 above, the clear leader at this point, then would using that definition change your vote on the Kick vs inhalation method thread?

 

[leaford]

A word that makes me want to throw myself out the 18th story floor of a building.


(you made this thread to SPITE ME!!!!!!)

Awww, poor widdle kiddy-kat!

 

[efaglil]

Think it's all subjective Leaford.

I chose....
I dont mind/care about Throat Kick, or like mild/medium Throat Kick, and I Mouth my Puffs.

I actually like Medium but medium to me might be "fresh air" or "lung burn" to someone else.

 

[Jammi98]

I think it also depends on how you define "heavy" or "mild to medium". If heavy means coughing or having to try not to cough, then I would change my other response to "mild to medium". Grouping that option with "I don't care" is misleading though, because without that feeling of fullness, I don't think I would have kicked analogs. To me, that is one of the most important aspects of vaping - it feels almost like the real thing.

Edit: used wrong term

 

[RainbowznStarz]

I voted other. I read this post yesterday and it totally defined what *I* mean by throat kick-

First will scratch and burn your throat, and the other gives you that deep "bass" lung punch without being so harsh to your throat at all. I prefer the other "lung kick" kind, and i am trying to find an ejuice that can bring me as close as possible to that rich and deep push.

For me it's the deep "bass" lung punch. I was also trying to explain this to a friend last week (throat kick) and I used the example of the machine in an eye doctors office where it quickly puffs air into your eye, except of course that quick puff is at the back of the throat. Not harsh and scratchy at all.

 

[Kate]

Well, I'm confused now. I thought throat kick was the same as throat hit which is the same as harshness and I voted for number one.

To me the second one is about volume and density of vapour and doesn't kick.

 

[UncleMidriff]

I voted for #2, but let me explain.

I prefer a strong throat "presence." I need to know that I have just inhaled something other than air. However, I even more prefer a tingly, or singe-y throat hit...without a bit of tingle, the throat hit feels flat, even if I can tell I'm inhaling more than just air.

Awhile back, I bought some Heavy Shag flavor from Janty. It came in a bottled labeled "Cigar" which I assume is the same thing. Inhaling that stuff sends me into a coughing fit nearly every time. I do not like that feeling.

In an effort to explain/confuse things further, I'll liken it to carbonated beverages, alcohol, and water. Drinking water is fine, and better for you, but it lacks something that makes drinking carbonated beverages fun for me. Taking a drink of Coke is a wonderful experience; it tingles the throat, almost burns, but then it dissipates and you feel refreshed. Drinking flat Coke is mostly just gross, as all of its punch is gone.

Now, take the strongest alcohol you can get your hands on and just start guzzling it*. You'll certainly feel that! But that feeling, to me, isn't at all pleasant. It typically results in gasping, coughing etc. Sure sure, a pleasant feeling will come in later, but that feeling has little do with the actual drinking experience.

So, that's how I see it:

No throat hit = drinking water. Fine, but not what I am looking for.
Great throat hit = Drinking a Coke. Impactful, tingly, but not painful or cough-inducing.
Bad throat hit = Guzzling turpentine. Impactful, painful, results in coughing fits and other unpleasantness.


*You probably shouldn't actually do this.

 

[Frankie]

Taking a drink of Coke is a wonderful experience; it tingles the throat, almost burns, but then it dissipates and you feel refreshed. Drinking flat Coke is mostly just gross, as all of its punch is gone.

BINGO! What is missing in flat Coke?
CO2.
Bad luck; it´s also missing in e-vapour

 

[RjG]

Hit, kick... same thing, no?

My personal observations,
I feel if you can just suck it down with no sensation at all, it's like air. No satisfaction. Plus, I smoke way more "wimpy" stuff, since I never feel like I had a smoke yet. So I keep puffing.

With the right liquid/atomizer combination, as you inhale there is a point where you can't anymore, the "max hit" point. It's involuntary.

A real nice place to be is around 60 or 75 % of that max point. You feel the vapor filling your throat, and a very definite presence rolling into your chest as you inhale.
Mmmm nice. And 1/2 dozen puffs later, you feel like you had a smoke, and can put it down for a while.

I'm not saying everyone likes or needs that, but for me it's 100% necessary

 

[leaford]

Well, it's pretty clear that I and a few others totally misunderstood the rest of you guys. I had the same misunderstanding as Kate.

To me the phrase "kick" or "hit" implies a harsh sensation going down the throat. Like slugging a shot of cheap rotgut whiskey, feeling that burn, and saying, "That's got some kick to it!" I would never have considered calling the feeling of the vapor rolling down the throat "Kick" or "hit" or "bite" or anything like that. It feels too smooth, too silky. It's a soft sensation to me, and I would use a soft word to describe it. Unless the e-liquid is harsh, like e-cig.com's stuff, of course, then it's harsh and burning.

As a direct inhaler, I always get a feeling right at the back of the throat where the vapor stream hits. It's a slightly tingling feeling, and a tightness, like the skin of the throat has constricted right there. That's what I would have called a throat kick.

Does anyone else feel that, and do you relate that to your perception of "Throat Kick?"

 

[leaford]

I think it also depends on how you define "heavy" or "mild to medium". If heavy means coughing or having to try not to cough, then I would change my other response to "mild to medium". Grouping that option with "I don't care" is misleading though, because without that feeling of fullness, I don't think I would have kicked analogs. To me, that is one of the most important aspects of vaping - it feels almost like the real thing.

Edit: used wrong term

With this definition, you're right. I was defining Kick as harshness. My bad.

The other poll is really irrelevant now, since I was trying to confirm a correlation between inhaling method and a preference for a harsh feeling, which I now know is not the case.

 

[GermanGoodness]

I like a moderate throat hit/kick with a mouth puff. Exactly like I would smoke an analog. But I'm with others on this. I don't want it to make me cough.