Denied!

[cba191]

I learned about deep oceans when I got into cigars. That is a hobby that get's expensive. Between your daily smokes, the special occasion smokes, and the limited edition smokes. It can get ridiculous. That's not even including the ritual (lighters, cutters, humidors, liquor). I will most likely get a vv in the future, but for right now, I just want a good, solid pv.

 

[swedishfish]

Depending on disposable income, I still think kr808 or riva 510 make a sensible start, a lower entry price. Get a kit, make the initial transition to vaping.

Month two just eliquid, save some $.

Month three pop for a good vv, keep your old gear for backup.

Infinity was a game changer in terms of a rock solid, high performance, vv, with an easy to use wheel adjustment. At about $120 with two pairs of batts and charger it is within reach of a wide audience.

With the pro series, buzz has kicked it up a notch, with a higher performance voltage regulator, even longer battery life (my original infinity already ran all day on a single set of batteries, 6 ml of eliquid every day).

I picked up a buzz pro to use along with my infinity. buzz pro is about
$40 more than the infinity pro will cost, but I wanted to try the shorter, thicker buzz format. The infinity has had no failures in the last six months, taken buckets of abuse, so my hardware replacement kitty easily covered the buzz.

I still keep one 808 auto xl, for hands free use or taking on small boats. Other than those cases, the infinity and buzz are all day, every day, mods

Which do you like better? The Infinity or Buzz - if you could have just one?

 

[markfm]

Guy hands, long fingers, Buzz Pro is quickly earning my appreciation, and it is a cleaner (though thicker) carry in my cargo pockets or breast pocket. Infinity is just long enough to sometimes catch sideways in my cargo pockets, slightly more likely to slip out of a shirt pocket when I lean over.

For smaller hands, slightly lower weight, the Infinity would be better. It looks more elegant, due to the slimmer profile.

They are both nicely finished (I have them both in black with brass end caps), I don't feel out of place using them in a conservative engineering office environment. Equally important, they are solid, the Infinity has dived into concrete more than a few times

 

[VapPornRules]

I used to feel that way. I'm not at all so sure anymore.

Sure, one should ascertain cheaply as to whether or not vaping is going to work for you before investing heavily--but you can do that by plunking down the $6.99 that disposables go for at Chevron Mini-Marts.

The book on newbie recommendations has been 510 or KR808, because there's a learning curve. I respectfully submit that the only thing to be "learned" about using a mod is which end to insert the batteries. I don't see that as overwhelming to even the greenest noob.

Beyond that is the voyage of discovery--which juice, which carto--and which voltage. All are matters a newbie faces, regardless of the cost or capabilities of the PV they're using.

I went the usual gradual-progression route. In the so doing, I accumulated a series of devices. In all cases, each were operated by pushing a button and inhaling. The only difference of consequence between all of them was their voltage output.

Had I pulled the trigger on a VV device from the beginning, I'd have dialed in the vaping experience I was lookIng for from the outset, without accumulating a boneyard of fixed-voltage PVs at very noticeable expense, all of which now collect dust.

Agree 100%. Went from Smoketip Kr808 to Provari in three weeks (with 4 or 5 ego-style PVs in between).

I knew from the first puff of the crappy little e-cig that this would work for me but needed the long battery life + flexibility.

If I hadn't found these boards I would've given up within 2 weeks.

 

[fun2btango]

IGO's are good, stay charged for about 24 hr...holds about 3 mil of juice D and B Gold - Home reasonably priced at $40 for the 650 mah and $45 for 1300 mah. They don't carry juice but try Welcome to Tasty Vapor

Good Luck!

 

[B4DJ1N64N]

I used to feel that way. I'm not at all so sure anymore.

Sure, one should ascertain cheaply as to whether or not vaping is going to work for you before investing heavily--but you can do that by plunking down the $6.99 that disposables go for at Chevron Mini-Marts.

The book on newbie recommendations has been 510 or KR808, because there's a learning curve. I respectfully submit that the only thing to be "learned" about using a mod is which end to insert the batteries. I don't see that as overwhelming to even the greenest noob.

Beyond that is the voyage of discovery--which juice, which carto--and which voltage. All are matters a newbie faces, regardless of the cost or capabilities of the PV they're using.

I went the usual gradual-progression route. In the so doing, I accumulated a series of devices. In all cases, each were operated by pushing a button and inhaling. The only difference of consequence between all of them was their voltage output.

Had I pulled the trigger on a VV device from the beginning, I'd have dialed in the vaping experience I was lookIng for from the outset, without accumulating a boneyard of fixed-voltage PVs at very noticeable expense, all of which now collect dust.

That's really true, the main problem is: most of the new "converts" or "potential converts" are still wanting cig-like device and don't want pushing a button to "smoke".

 

[Baldr]

Sure, one should ascertain cheaply as to whether or not vaping is going to work for you before investing heavily--but you can do that by plunking down the $6.99 that disposables go for at Chevron Mini-Marts.

Long before I bought an ego, I've had friends that tried those kind of things. None of those friends are still using them. I tried them then, and had no interest. If I used those to decide whether vaping was for me or not, I'd still be smoking 3 packs a day.

I respectfully submit that the only thing to be "learned" about using a mod is which end to insert the batteries.

And then you wrote :

Beyond that is the voyage of discovery--which juice, which carto--and which voltage. All are matters a newbie faces, regardless of the cost or capabilities of the PV they're using./QUOTE]

You're saying there is no learning curve, and then you start listing stuff that everyone has to learn about if they vape. And there are more than those you list.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

Although I maintain a strict policy of denying obvious trolls the attention they crave, I'll make a special exception for you.

Long before I bought an ego, I've had friends that tried those kind of things. None of those friends are still using them.

I imagine not. The variety I referred to are disposables, essentially M402s with non-rechargeable batteries.

I tried them then, and had no interest. If I used those to decide whether vaping was for me or not, I'd still be smoking 3 packs a day.

There's no point in comparing anecdotal evidence; suffice it to say that the number of these things sold and used every day—doubtless becoming a gateway device for many—exceeds the count of yourself and your immediate circle of friends by several orders of magnitude.

You're saying there is no learning curve, and then you start listing stuff that everyone has to learn about if they vape. And there are more than those you list.

Reading is fundamental, Baldr.

Examine this sentence a little more closely: Beyond that is the voyage of discovery--which juice, which carto--and which voltage. All are matters a newbie faces, regardless of the cost or capabilities of the PV they're using.

The point therein is that the learning curve—for the most part—pertains to issues peripheral to one's PV, be it a mod, 510, KR808 or otherwise.

 

[texasgranny]

I used to feel that way. I'm not at all so sure anymore.

Sure, one should ascertain cheaply as to whether or not vaping is going to work for you before investing heavily--but you can do that by plunking down the $6.99 that disposables go for at Chevron Mini-Marts.

The book on newbie recommendations has been 510 or KR808, because there's a learning curve. I respectfully submit that the only thing to be "learned" about using a mod is which end to insert the batteries. I don't see that as overwhelming to even the greenest noob.

Beyond that is the voyage of discovery--which juice, which carto--and which voltage. All are matters a newbie faces, regardless of the cost or capabilities of the PV they're using.

I went the usual gradual-progression route. In the so doing, I accumulated a series of devices. In all cases, each were operated by pushing a button and inhaling. The only difference of consequence between all of them was their voltage output.

Had I pulled the trigger on a VV device from the beginning, I'd have dialed in the vaping experience I was lookIng for from the outset, without accumulating a boneyard of fixed-voltage PVs at very noticeable expense, all of which now collect dust.

I so TOTALLY agree!!!! well almost.
I bypassed the typical suggestions...ego, riva, 510 and went straight into the PROVAPE!!! But not the VV.
I love it....never have ANY problems....built like a tank....takes a beating and keeps on vaping!
OP....you have made a great choice. Glad you stuck to your guns and kept on trying.
I don't think you will be dissapointed.
They ship fast and always have given great customer service.

The best to you!

 

[Baldr]

Although I maintain a strict policy of denying obvious trolls the attention they crave, I'll make a special exception for you.

Disagreeing with you doesn't make me a troll. And when you claim there is no learning curve, then list a lot of things you have to learn about, it's worth pointing out.