DID WE WIN???????

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I don't think we won, but the fight will last longer now. It's sort of silly we allow them to set the time period of the fight, but at least it's 5 more years. There is progress being made.

I thank everyone that voted for Trump, without him - who knows what would have happened.
 

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I don't think we won, but the fight will last longer now. It's sort of silly we allow them to set the time period of the fight, but at least it's 5 more years. There is progress being made.

I thank everyone that voted for Trump, without him - who knows what would have happened.
We just got a 5 year breather, vape Manufactures and Retailers need to get their act together. Much that has been done so far IMO has been ineffective. I constantly see plastered on Billboards, Bus's, Trains, TV, etc. anti-vape advertising spewing the debunked studies and bottom line lies. Like it or not the real battle is in public opinion so they can in turn put pressure on their Representatives.
 

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This is not a win in my opinion just a temporary cease fire and we still need to advocate for our right to vape.

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The States though is where we all need to worry about most.

Yep. Once BT experiences accelerated market share loss over time with lowered nicotine cigarette sales, guess where government looks next to make up for sin tax losses. The cleaner and healthier vaping alternative to tobacco smoke will lose its luster and begin to look like a source of replacement tax.
 
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"Our compliance policies should account for changes that will move addicted smokers down that continuum of risk to these less harmful products..."

Gottlieb acknowledging that vaping is less harmful than smoking. This Is A Win.

That is most definitely a win!

This is not a win in my opinion just a temporary cease fire and we still need to advocate for our right to vape.

Agreed. It's more like a brief reprieve, the battle is far from over.

The States though is where we all need to worry about most.

Exactly. You can now expect ANTZ to prioritize their attempts to kill vaping through local and state channels rather than wait for federal intervention.
 

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    I don't think we won, but the fight will last longer now. It's sort of silly we allow them to set the time period of the fight, but at least it's 5 more years. There is progress being made.

    I thank everyone that voted for Trump, without him - who knows what would have happened.
    Hillary as President? :eek:
     

    r055co

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    Yep. After BT experiences accelerated market share loss over time, guess where government looks next to make up for sin tax losses. The cleaner and healthier alternative to tobacco smoke will lose its luster and begin to look like a source of replacement tax.
    BT is a minor threat, the biggest and by far the most dangerous threat is Big Pharma.
     
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