Can someone explain to me the difference, if any, you would experience from a vape at 15 watts on a dna30, and a vape at 15 watts on a mech with kick2 at 15 watts? The explanation on evolve of each, as far as technical details ( which I dont understand btw), seem the same. "The Kick2 is a power regulated digital switch-mode DC-DC converter for personal vaporizers in the form of a drop in module" " The dna 30D is a power regulated digital switch-mode DC-DC converter for personal vaporizers". Is there a difference in the vape quality in the 5-15 watt range?
Difference between dna30 and kick2 at same watts
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My first instinct is to say the same. 15w are 15w. Given this said I notice a difference between my evic at 11w vs something like a svd at same watts. My theory is that because of of the low amp limit, although both are providing 11w, one is doing it at low current with higher voltage and the other lower voltage but higher current.
The first seems a bit smoother, with longer time to heat the coil.
The first seems a bit smoother, with longer time to heat the coil.
Yeah I was hoping someone with both can chime in but thanks for all your responses so far. The reason I ask is because my cheap Chinese vamo wannabe at 10 watts hits much different than kick2 at 10 watts. I figured it came down to quality in some way so when I saw the DNA 30 description so similar to kicks it made me wonder how bad I really thought I wanted a DNA 30. I guess I'll never know until I vape at 30 watts regulated. To me the most appeal, other than the safety, is having the first hit be just as strong as last.
If you have a fixed resistance, only one voltage value will give you the wattage you target. You can't increase current without either increasing voltage OR lowering resistance.
What he said. Current is I=V/R and Power (Watts) is P=(V^2)/R.
As for the difference between your Evic and SVD, I believe the PWM on the Evic is 100Hz and 33.3Hz on the SVD. I'm guessing this is why the Evic seems smoother.
As for the OP, if both the Kick 2 and the DNA regulate their voltage in the same manner they should vape the same and I'm thinking they do. I'll leave the final word for someone who knows for sure.
As for the difference between your Evic and SVD, I believe the PWM on the Evic is 100Hz and 33.3Hz on the SVD. I'm guessing this is why the Evic seems smoother.
As for the OP, if both the Kick 2 and the DNA regulate their voltage in the same manner they should vape the same and I'm thinking they do. I'll leave the final word for someone who knows for sure.
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Here's my understanding:
The Kick 2 can buck voltage better than a DNA. According to the Evolv website it can buck voltage down to 2 volts.
I.E. If you put something like a 0.6 ohm atty on a Kick 2, then set it to 15w...it'll buck voltage down to something like 2.5v (give or take a little). With a sub-ohm atty like this on a Kick 2, your lowest output possible would be around 7 Watts, while with a DNA the same atty's lowest setting would be MUCH higher (I'm guessing around 29 watts at 7 amps on a freshly charged battery).
The DNA 20/30D models can give more power, it's excellent and highly efficient at 'boosting' voltage, but it doesn't 'buck' voltage as well as the Kick 2. I.E. if you put that same 0.6 Ohm atty on a DNA mod, its lowest setting would depend on the charge of the battery. With that in mind, you'd avoid low resistance atties if you want to get the 'full range' of possible adjustments. I.E. If you wanted to get a 7w vape (lowest it will go?) from a DNA on fresh battery, you'd NEED an atty of 2.52 Ohm or higher resistance.
So, if you like settings below 15 watts and primarily run single coil atties, don't use Sub-Ohm coils on either device. With a DNA you'd probably want 2.5 - 3 Ohm builds or higher to enjoy settings under 10 watts. With a Kick 2, you could still use atties from 1 - 2 Ohms and get the full 5-15 watt range.
For single coil rigs under 15 watts...Kick 2 with a coil from 1 - 2.5 Ohms is probably the way to go.
If you're wanting to drive multiple coil rigs, or otherwise know you'll rarely if ever want to go below 10 watts, a DNA is far more efficient and better for the job.
The Kick 2 can buck voltage better than a DNA. According to the Evolv website it can buck voltage down to 2 volts.
I.E. If you put something like a 0.6 ohm atty on a Kick 2, then set it to 15w...it'll buck voltage down to something like 2.5v (give or take a little). With a sub-ohm atty like this on a Kick 2, your lowest output possible would be around 7 Watts, while with a DNA the same atty's lowest setting would be MUCH higher (I'm guessing around 29 watts at 7 amps on a freshly charged battery).
The DNA 20/30D models can give more power, it's excellent and highly efficient at 'boosting' voltage, but it doesn't 'buck' voltage as well as the Kick 2. I.E. if you put that same 0.6 Ohm atty on a DNA mod, its lowest setting would depend on the charge of the battery. With that in mind, you'd avoid low resistance atties if you want to get the 'full range' of possible adjustments. I.E. If you wanted to get a 7w vape (lowest it will go?) from a DNA on fresh battery, you'd NEED an atty of 2.52 Ohm or higher resistance.
So, if you like settings below 15 watts and primarily run single coil atties, don't use Sub-Ohm coils on either device. With a DNA you'd probably want 2.5 - 3 Ohm builds or higher to enjoy settings under 10 watts. With a Kick 2, you could still use atties from 1 - 2 Ohms and get the full 5-15 watt range.
For single coil rigs under 15 watts...Kick 2 with a coil from 1 - 2.5 Ohms is probably the way to go.
If you're wanting to drive multiple coil rigs, or otherwise know you'll rarely if ever want to go below 10 watts, a DNA is far more efficient and better for the job.
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Yup, your right, just checked the math. Different amp limit shouldn't make difference. Given this said, I just tried my evic against the innokin vv3 (witch has high frequency like the evic) and the later one seems to give a much stronger vapor at the same power settings.
No idea why lol
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