I'm really surprised I have not seen a mod that's both. It can't be that hard. A bypass switch and your done. Am I missing something? Do they already have them? If someone designed a mod that was VV/VW and through in a switch to pypass the digital components you could vape either way you choose. Is it that simple? Would anyone be interested in one?
Digatal or mechinacal mod? Why do I have to choose?
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That would be pretty cool! I guess you'd have to have 2 fire buttons - and, of course, the bypass switch would have to be mechanical, too. I could see the Pro Vari with a bottom-firing mechanical switch. It would be cool if they used the locking mechanism typically found on bottom-firing mods as the by-pass switch.
It would be super-usefull for RBA users.
You can kind of get the same thing with a mech + a kick . .but it would be great to have both in 1 device without having to take it apart. I'll tell you what .. if you build a really nice one, I'll be your first customer.
It would be super-usefull for RBA users.
You can kind of get the same thing with a mech + a kick . .but it would be great to have both in 1 device without having to take it apart. I'll tell you what .. if you build a really nice one, I'll be your first customer.
Neat idea, but people who want a mechanical mod want it BECAUSE it doesn't have extra electronics and doo-dads in it. The people who want a VV/VW mod are buying it because it HAS this "stuff" in it. They serve 2 different purposes entirely. As a primarily mechanical user, I like it because it's much smaller and more simple than a VV device. I've got a VAMO for when I want to dicker with buttons and settings.
You would not sell a "mechanical" mod with a bunch of circuitry and wires.
You might sell a few VV mods with a "mechanical switch" to VV users as a bit of a novelty.
You would not sell a "mechanical" mod with a bunch of circuitry and wires.
You might sell a few VV mods with a "mechanical switch" to VV users as a bit of a novelty.
Duct tape two PVs together
Darth Maul's lightsaber vape device... Yes young padawan we should all endeavor to create our own light... err vape sabers.
No, It would not be for the vapors who like mech mods because it wont have the stripped down simplicity mech vapors like. It would be for VV/VW users who want versatility to play with the way they vape. To experiment with RBA's and with the way other people vape. It would also be a mech mod that could read ohms. Set it up like a provari and add a bottom button that screws in flush and tight when not in use. Add a menu setting that lets you switch from digital to mech. I think if done well it would be nice to have.
I agree - it wouldn't be for the mech purists. It wouldn't be for the clearo and carto users or purchasers of mfg atties, either .. but, if you build your own coils, you almost *need* a mech mod to fine tune and troubleshoot them. After they are built, though, you could use the digital part to set the power at whatever suits your coil . .ie . .so you wouldn't *have* to build sub-ohm coils.
I'm just getting into RBA's and using a meter to test the coils - it's kind of a pain and you can't see hotspots, etc. I will probably pull the trigger on an inexpensive mech mod soon .. but I still want to vape primarily on VV/VW because . .if I build a 2.5 ohm coil, I want to be able to use it. If I could get both in 1 device and it was slick looking and not more expensive than purchasing 2 seperate devices . .I would be way into it and I'm sure there would be others . .enough to make it profitable? I don't know about that .. but I want one!
Missed the hole point; why would I settle for just one PV when I can have two!?!
VV & VW in the same PV is the silliest idea I've ever seen. Now you want to add mechanical as well!!!!
Never acquire a collection of PV's if you put everything in just one.
VV & VW in the same PV is the silliest idea I've ever seen. Now you want to add mechanical as well!!!!
Never acquire a collection of PV's if you put everything in just one.
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"Alcoholic or non alcoholic drink, I'm really surprised I have not seen a drink that's both."
Once you understand what they both are, you will see that they are mutually exclusive.
A true mechanical MOD has no electronics including no wires. Going digital excludes being mechanical by default.
Once you understand what they both are, you will see that they are mutually exclusive.
A true mechanical MOD has no electronics including no wires. Going digital excludes being mechanical by default.
And why stop with the battery?
Besides both mech and VW, should have multiple connections to mount an RBA, clearomizer, drip, cart and several different tank systems.
Besides both mech and VW, should have multiple connections to mount an RBA, clearomizer, drip, cart and several different tank systems.
Actually, like many I have both style mods, each has their own advantages and disadvantages, and I thoroughly enjoy both and would be hard pressed to pick a favorite. If nothing more, having multiple mods are excellent for having multiple and ready delivery systems mounted with different juices.
Nope, but there are some that falsely use the name "hybrid".
They are not a hybrid. Just fanboy caca.
They are not a hybrid. Just fanboy caca.
If you "have a menu setting that lets you switch from digital to mech", then it's not a mechanical mod, it's a very poor digital mod.
You guys are a little to narrow minded. Not all people have the same prioritys in vaping. Just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean others won't find it appealing. I've noticed that about this forum. Not all of course but many people here have decided what they think vaping should be and anything that does not match that is wrong.
Some people don't care to collect mods. I have a very expensive hobby already, collecting and restoring pinball machines. It makes vaping look free in comparison. I bought a mod because I want a very good consistent vaping experience. It's kept me off analogs since day one so I give it the time and energy it deserves. I rebuild my own clearos and also love using cartos. I have one RBA, an AGA-T+. The days I'm in the mood to tinker with it I would like to be able to flip a switch on my mod turn it mechinacal and tinker. I also have a friend who loves RBA's. When I go by his place and hes showing me his RBA's I'd like to test them out on my mod by flipping a switch and making it mechinacal. I can see plenty of uses for the feature.
I'm willing to bet a good engineer could start with a good mechinacal and add some electronics to it and make it versitle. In fact it's not any different than a kick really but since it doesn't match the purist ideas here it's silly and dumb and criticized. Say what you want but one of these company's are already thinking about the idea and one will eventually hit the market.
To the comment that having VV/VW in the same mod is silly isn't thinking about logistics. If you sell a mod you have to make a choice. Choose to make your mod either VV or VW and only make half the customers happy with your choice or make both models, double your stock and complicate your production run. Then you can make the intelligent decision and add both features so everyone's happy.
Some people don't care to collect mods. I have a very expensive hobby already, collecting and restoring pinball machines. It makes vaping look free in comparison. I bought a mod because I want a very good consistent vaping experience. It's kept me off analogs since day one so I give it the time and energy it deserves. I rebuild my own clearos and also love using cartos. I have one RBA, an AGA-T+. The days I'm in the mood to tinker with it I would like to be able to flip a switch on my mod turn it mechinacal and tinker. I also have a friend who loves RBA's. When I go by his place and hes showing me his RBA's I'd like to test them out on my mod by flipping a switch and making it mechinacal. I can see plenty of uses for the feature.
I'm willing to bet a good engineer could start with a good mechinacal and add some electronics to it and make it versitle. In fact it's not any different than a kick really but since it doesn't match the purist ideas here it's silly and dumb and criticized. Say what you want but one of these company's are already thinking about the idea and one will eventually hit the market.
To the comment that having VV/VW in the same mod is silly isn't thinking about logistics. If you sell a mod you have to make a choice. Choose to make your mod either VV or VW and only make half the customers happy with your choice or make both models, double your stock and complicate your production run. Then you can make the intelligent decision and add both features so everyone's happy.
There's no doubt a combo mod may appeal to some, but I feel very few from the mech camp. And it's not because they're narrow minded or purists as you charge, but because it defeats the entire purpose and advantage of a mech mod. Advantages of a mech mod are simplicity, comparatively small size compared to electronic mods, and hi efficiency with very low voltage drops. By having a dual purpose mod, size is greatly increased, the switches and associated wiring add circuit resistance and higher voltage drops, and becomes more complex with greater points of failure .... So it will never approach or have the desirability as a pure mech mod.
That said, I think having a vv/vw mod that doesnt have a lower ohm limiter in the buck circuit would be desirable, but again, never as efficient, simple, or small as a mech mod. But one could try out low ohm coils if desired.
That said, I think having a vv/vw mod that doesnt have a lower ohm limiter in the buck circuit would be desirable, but again, never as efficient, simple, or small as a mech mod. But one could try out low ohm coils if desired.
The problem isn't one of being narrow-minded. The problem is with understanding what makes a mechanical mod, and what the benefits are to one. There's also a very real problem that such a device, if used like a mechanical mod is often used, could be dangerous.
Flipping a switch on a regulated mod to "mechanical" to bypass some of the circuitry does not make it a mechanical mod, and will not provide any of the primary benefits of a mechanical mod. Sure, you may be able to sell a few to people who don't know any better, and are buying something "mechanical" based purely on hype, who don't understand what to look for in a mechanical mod and why it matters, but that doesn't make the mod mechanical.
What's being asked for here is for someone to build a mod that's not mechanical and call it mechanical so people can buy it and cheaply jump on the mechanical bandwagon. The problem with that is what they'll end up with isn't a mechanical mod. It's some kind of ....... device designed by people who don't understand what makes a mechanical mod desirable, to make people think they have a mechanical when they don't. If those people then start trying to use a mod like that as if it were mechanical, you could potentially be looking at melted wires or switches, or worse.
What you'll end up with, most likely, is a mod that's inferior both as a regulated mod, and as a pseudo-mechanical. Honestly, someone would be much better off buying two mods. You make it sound like it's a huge burden to spend as little as maybe $35 on a low-end mechanical mod, as if the act of "collecting" that mod is some heinous chore. It's not, and you'll actually end up with a mechanical mod instead of a poor imitation just pretending to be mechanical if you go that route.
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What you are wanting can not be done. Not only does a mechanical mod not have any wires or what have you in it, vv and vw mods require them to have amp rated switches, that switch would then make the mod unusable for what most of us who use a mechanical use them for.
If you want to try your friends RBA's unless that person is running ohms that your vv/vw can't handle you can use them on your mod, and if they are using ohms yours won't handle turning something on or off in the mod will not change the fact that mod has an amp limit in the switch.
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