Dinosaurs of vaping and useless B&M, again

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papergoblin

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I run a mech mod about 90% of the time, of course I'm home 90% of the time. I run tanks, sometimes, usually in bed. The majority of the time I drip or run a genesis tank. I broke from my usual routine when out and about the other day. I brought out my mech and my kraken clone, when I went to check out a local shop that I haven't been in yet.

I walked into a cloud, which didn't bother me, actually figured this was gonna be a cool experience. I saw cases of mechs, batteries, box mods and vw devices galore. This seemed like the shop for veteran vapers not the cookie cutter starter places, which anyone vaping for over a year knows we need more veteran aimed shops.

I spoke with a young woman saying I was just checking out what they had to offer. She walks away a bit and comes back. This is when I begin to lose faith in the shop. She asks me what I'm using, I explained it was an infected mod with a kraken clone. Then says that the kraken sounds familiar, and I explain it's a genny.

She then tells me I'm not getting enough out of it and need a vw (cube II she points to) and a sub ohm set up. I would enjoy it more, get more satisfaction. I hold my cool, and say I'm more into mechs, it's just the way I am. She then points out the mechs they have and offers me a deal on a mod that includes this awesome Imren 40 amp battery, since it is a better mod than I have ( I'm using the original infected and the mods they have are clones).

My inner a hole awakes and like the comic, I have the right to remain silent but not the ability. I go off, explaining there are no 40 amp batteries, let alone Imrens. I tell her I have drippers and can cloud with the best and that my genny produces awesome flavor regardless of clouds.

I then educate her on Chinese relabeled batteries, knock offs and real mods, and that big clouds do not equate to big flavor. I don't need to measure myself by clouds and am no old grump, I'm just 34. On the other hand I don't need a 20ish year old to tell me how to vape.

My point is big clouds do not mean big flavor. Mech mods are safe if used correctly and can provide the same satisfaction as a vw device. Genesis tanks can be awesome or a burden but for those that hang in there, the reward is something amazing. They both go hand in hand, as the genny wasn't designed for high wattage, since it didn't exist when it came out.

There is a lot of new stuff that is awesome but the dinosaurs built what is. The dinosaurs can still teach new and old vapers a thing or two. I see and hear people say this is hard to build on, really. I have a suggestion, try rebuilding the coil on an Evod tank at 8pm sunday after a few drinks, cause you forgot to buy more and no one is open. If you can build one of those, you can build anything.

Too many people think that to get the best vape, you need something made in the last 2 months. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against high watts, blue tooth, and calendars or subohm tanks. What I hate is when people say those are the ruling groups and that you are cheap, unsafe, and blah blah blah because you run a mech.

I suggest to anyone out there with the sales coming up, get a genny tank and get it to work. If you're on a high watt, just turn it down but try one of the flavor queens of days past. If you can stick with it and build it, you will be truly amazed.

Sorry for the rant, it's been a long day. I also thought since in the US, we are remembering our heros and past. We should remember our vaping past as well.
 

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I ran into a very similar experience recently.

The counter clerk 1st asked me if I had tried vaping yet. Then asked what I was using. When I pulled the Poldiac out of my pocket, he explained that it was dangerous & obsolete. Their vape shop stopped carrying mech mods because so many of them blow up....

I asked if they carried the iStick 50w & he laid one on the counter. I rattled the buttons & mentioned that they've got a record of blowing up too.

Apparently they make more money replacing cheap Chinese electronics than being of service to customers carrying a well crafted Greek mod.
 

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Apparently they make more money replacing cheap Chinese electronics than being of service to customers carrying a well crafted Greek mod.

This is, unfortunately, the way of the world today. Mass produced, and engineered to fail.
 

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I'm right there with ya.
Love my Kraken, Prometheus, and silver dog hybrid! I'm also a 90% mechanical user.
Genesis tanks are incredibly awesome tanks.
They aren't popular with the new vape crowd because they require a bit of knowledge to build, and there truely is a learning curve to getting the most out of one, but when built right they blow away all other tanks.

A mech and a proper Genny is a beautiful thing



And you kids stay off my damn lawn!!
 

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From an outsiders point of view it seems like your experience is the result of not-so-great customer service and vaping being a relatively new market to capitalize on.

First and foremost, a sales associate should never point out flaws in something when you never stated "my X isn't giving me the Y experience". It's also a new market, so I'm sure there are problems with getting the right people to work, educating them, etc.

That's almost insulting for someone to act as if they know more and will make a sale by telling you what you're vaping isn't as good as what they have. Especially when you, the buyer, have the upper hand in information.
 

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So a new one opened just up the road from me and I needed some wire. I decided to stop.


Sub ohm cloud chaser crowd. Smallest wire they had was 24 ga......I like my 28 nichrome. Oh, no nichrome in the house....."old style, we dont carry that."

I asked about the Ileaf 20 watt. "ON SALE for 46 dollars! " "Is that negotiable? They're 30 bucks on the internet?" "No."

Pass.Snickered inwardly and moved along.


On to the clones I walked. They had the same Nemesis clone I bought off of Fasttech for 22 buck in the counter.....64 bucks. I asked to look at it. He was proud to show it too me, special running today on it with a magma clone, 2 efest 35 amp batteries and a single port charger for the unbelievably low price of 80 dollars


Pass. held my tounge.

Asked what I vaped, I went out to the car and got my A rig....The authentic Nemesis and the 5 Pawns Kayfun Lite.


When I showed it to him he looked a second, handed it back too me and said "I probably dont have anything in here your interest in unless you need juice."


"I've paid a dollar a mil in my younger days for very good whiskey but NEVER for chinese E-Juice."


I shall not grace that door-frame with my shadow again.
 

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My inner a hole awakes and like the comic, I have the right to remain silent but not the ability.

I'm just 34.

You have the right to remain silent.

In a few more years you'll learn the art of the silent smile.............:)
 

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You want to have a real good time walk into one of those shops with a REO. The last place I went to called it a flimsily mech box. Buy the time I left two employee's wrote down the REO website on the back of their business cards.

Most are cookie cutter with noobie teams running the counter.
 

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So a sales person tried to sell you something when you walked into a store?!?! ZOMG!!!!!

It's not a sales person doing their job I have a problem with. It's a salesperson that doesn't know product, that irks me. The store isn't new, it's been around about a year, I just finally was in that part of town to go in. When a place is going to say an imren battery is 40 amps and better than the Sony vtc 4 next to it, yeah that's a big no no.

Tired of vape shops that are going to get people hurt and have us regulated up the tail.
 

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I guess I don't understand why the age of the employee always seems to come into play when the subject is B&Ms. I'm 54 and have no doubt there are people who are much younger than me (even "twentyish") that know more than I do about many things.....including vaping.

Although that may not be the case in this scenario, it seems to be a common theme in these types of threads.
 

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It's not a sales person doing their job I have a problem with. It's a salesperson that doesn't know product, that irks me. The store isn't new, it's been around about a year, I just finally was in that part of town to go in. When a place is going to say an imren battery is 40 amps and better than the Sony vtc 4 next to it, yeah that's a big no no.

Tired of vape shops that are going to get people hurt and have us regulated up the tail.

There's nothing wrong with regulated; the problem is one of modularity;
the best system is an optionally regulated mech, for the same reason that the subtank type has advantage over the strict clearo or strict rta

the thing to watch out for is if they have those centerpinless mechanical mods, the so-called "hybrid look" mods.
 

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I guess I don't understand why the age of the employee always seems to come into play when the subject is B&Ms. I'm 54 and have no doubt there are people who are much younger than me (even "twentyish") that know more than I do about many things.....including vaping.

Although that may not be the case in this scenario, it seems to be a common theme in these types of threads.

I'm not sure that it's common to these thread or common to the way shops hire their staff. I live in the Chicago Metro area and when I am out and about and see a shop I'll normally stop in to check it out. In about 99% of the shops I stop in the staff for the most part at mid twenties. I have one shop I like that the owner is knowledgeable and in his mid forties. I really believe it's not a theme but more of a reality, at least in my area.
 
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