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funny you mention that miter. I recently bought a big bottle of unflavored to make my own flavored mixes and recalled some folks saying they liked the "flavor" of unflavored. So I tried it and it was VERY odd. Not only bitter, but it strangely made my lips numb (or some weird feeling I can't explain any better than that). Why it doesn't do the same with flavor in it is beyond me or explanation but that's how it was for me. I would like to be liberated from it though...one less component to worry about health issues.
I do have to say though, now that I'm mixing my own, if it lacks flavor, I just add more
And I've never had lack of flavor issues with Ithaka and Penelope (the no NR versions).
maybe I'll try non flavored from another vendor next time though
I do have to say though, now that I'm mixing my own, if it lacks flavor, I just add more
And I've never had lack of flavor issues with Ithaka and Penelope (the no NR versions).
maybe I'll try non flavored from another vendor next time though
I totally agree with you River. I never did direct inhaling when I was smoking and I think that direct inhaling was done by people that smoked hookahs and drugs. But the thing is that its dangerous because liquid can go direct to your lungs while the liquid explodes on the wick. Also it doesnt let you have the taste of mouth hitting vape.
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maybe your nic level is down but you vape the same or more nic Natron because you inhale more time.
Just to add on, you may try to google something about "breathing through mouth".
Breathing through your mouth is somewhat similar to breathing direct inhale.
What I'm trying to say is, apart from what the vapes, juice, burnt smoke, coils, atty that can harm your body, inhaling via mouth itself is unhealthy.
I won't be copy and pasting over from websites, but let me describe in lay man's term and keep it simple.
There is a mechanism in our nose that moisture the air from the environment before entering the body. It also work as a filter.
To proof that, try to breath with your mouth for 5mins and you get a dry throat. But you never did get a dry throat breathing from nose since you were borned.
So to all the lung-man out there, I'm not saying it's bad, just take care of yourself. Don't do it all the time, just occasionally.
I still lung when I'm bored (sub ohm with penny, juice and air control wide open with collector tank, you wont go wrong with it lol). But thats just sometimes, and like quick 5-6 puffs then start sipping a bit of water.
After all, we are just changing a way to smoke. Let's just have a more tasty flavor of smoking and less harmful to our body.
Breathing through your mouth is somewhat similar to breathing direct inhale.
What I'm trying to say is, apart from what the vapes, juice, burnt smoke, coils, atty that can harm your body, inhaling via mouth itself is unhealthy.
I won't be copy and pasting over from websites, but let me describe in lay man's term and keep it simple.
There is a mechanism in our nose that moisture the air from the environment before entering the body. It also work as a filter.
To proof that, try to breath with your mouth for 5mins and you get a dry throat. But you never did get a dry throat breathing from nose since you were borned.
So to all the lung-man out there, I'm not saying it's bad, just take care of yourself. Don't do it all the time, just occasionally.
I still lung when I'm bored (sub ohm with penny, juice and air control wide open with collector tank, you wont go wrong with it lol). But thats just sometimes, and like quick 5-6 puffs then start sipping a bit of water.
After all, we are just changing a way to smoke. Let's just have a more tasty flavor of smoking and less harmful to our body.
I think I may have to intervene here in regards to lung hitting. Since I been for the last year and half designing coils especially and specifically for people that lung hit.
As for trying to find a reason, trying to see why people lung hit, or finding reasons why one shouldn't is a waste of ones energy. People been lung hitting for a long long long time if it be hookahs, cigarettes, soups, YES SOUPS.
There is a great enjoyment into lung hitting. You get a lot of flavors if you direct lung hit all the way in and then letting it out through your nose. Such a great taste and nic is about 3 times as strong. so if you vaped at 12 nic I suggest you vape now at 3 nic or even 2 nic for lung hitting.
How does one start to lung hit?
From beginning using dual holes at 2.5m size each and little by little enlarging it to 3m-6m. There are many techniques in lung hitting which results in flavor, heat, warm vape, our cloud chasing competitions.
People seen how I Vape ithaka, Penelope, I lung hit which is why you see the many clouds. I'm not a cloud chaser but it just comes with the territory of making coils and maximizing potential of atomizer to help folks with that they want to do if its for competition or just to enjoy a good vape.
There is alot to write about this subject so I rather not bore anyone that is not interested but if many are interested Ill be happy to discuss it further.
As for trying to find a reason, trying to see why people lung hit, or finding reasons why one shouldn't is a waste of ones energy. People been lung hitting for a long long long time if it be hookahs, cigarettes, soups, YES SOUPS.
There is a great enjoyment into lung hitting. You get a lot of flavors if you direct lung hit all the way in and then letting it out through your nose. Such a great taste and nic is about 3 times as strong. so if you vaped at 12 nic I suggest you vape now at 3 nic or even 2 nic for lung hitting.
How does one start to lung hit?
From beginning using dual holes at 2.5m size each and little by little enlarging it to 3m-6m. There are many techniques in lung hitting which results in flavor, heat, warm vape, our cloud chasing competitions.
People seen how I Vape ithaka, Penelope, I lung hit which is why you see the many clouds. I'm not a cloud chaser but it just comes with the territory of making coils and maximizing potential of atomizer to help folks with that they want to do if its for competition or just to enjoy a good vape.
There is alot to write about this subject so I rather not bore anyone that is not interested but if many are interested Ill be happy to discuss it further.
I dont really disagree Bish. I am just saying that the vaping right now is like cars before 50 years. I mean that people are experimenting with several techniques that many of them are very bad, like oxidised mesh, oxidised wires, lung hitting (drops of liquid doesnt stay on mouth but they go to the lungs), burned taste that can burn your lung cells, very low coils that produce acrolein that is poisson for your body, etc.
The best part is that people know all this info but many of them still insist on those techniques. Some day, all of these techniques will stay in past.
I am still wondering why the last 5 years some people accuse me for several things and after some time they adapt my opinion but they still accuse me for new things
Anyway, my suggestion is to be very careful, think alone and dont do whatever you hear around.
The best part is that people know all this info but many of them still insist on those techniques. Some day, all of these techniques will stay in past.
I am still wondering why the last 5 years some people accuse me for several things and after some time they adapt my opinion but they still accuse me for new things
Anyway, my suggestion is to be very careful, think alone and dont do whatever you hear around.
Imeo, what can I say but life is funny. Sometimes introducing things ahead of its time may not be so good. Not because the technology is or application is bad just that people may not be ready to accept change. Look at Michael Angelo, Leonardo Da Vinci, Socrates, etc. They and many others were ahead of there time. So ahead that at there time they were not looked at the way we look at them today. Today we honor them and respect all they have done for us still to this day.
For what people accused you of 5 years ago? Us Americans have a saying "it's water under the bridge" meaning its forgiven and forgotten. look at you now making the best tank atomizers and mechanical devices. You make the most complicated devices while others make what is seemed a few items slapped together and its done. We can see the complexity of your work and we appreciate it.
Vaping is a journey that we must do so as safe as possible. There are things that we may not know. Unless someone is studying it for over 30 years. all we can do is collaborate findings and be smart to rule out things that will cause us harm as suppose to white might.
For what people accused you of 5 years ago? Us Americans have a saying "it's water under the bridge" meaning its forgiven and forgotten. look at you now making the best tank atomizers and mechanical devices. You make the most complicated devices while others make what is seemed a few items slapped together and its done. We can see the complexity of your work and we appreciate it.
Vaping is a journey that we must do so as safe as possible. There are things that we may not know. Unless someone is studying it for over 30 years. all we can do is collaborate findings and be smart to rule out things that will cause us harm as suppose to white might.
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I second to that.
Especially on these very moment that e-Cigs are still in thr grey area. Innovative and safer products will convince people and attract people to change.
That's about all we wanted, legal and safer ciggy.
On that note I'll re-wick some fresh organic cotton on them duals in the dripper, splash on some of Mike's (RoarVapor) Strapple, pour myself a nice Gin&Tonic and lung inhale like I stole it
no matter what dripper I use, since alway dripping with direct inhaling has always been a poor experience a flavor chaser: all my liquids are way better in a tank than in a dripper.
I'm curious to know what's wrong with my setup, so if someone can redirect me to a 101 dripper/flavour chasing guide, I'd appreciate
I'm curious to know what's wrong with my setup, so if someone can redirect me to a 101 dripper/flavour chasing guide, I'd appreciate
Make better coils use better wicking materials and better atomizer. Lol. Seriously provide more info of what I mentioned. Drippers can and will forever give the better flavor. However cloud chasing and flavor can be a bit contradictory as the mix of air differs. So don't expect to have everything.no matter what dripper I use, since alway dripping with direct inhaling has always been a poor experience a flavor chaser: all my liquids are way better in a tank than in a dripper.
I'm curious to know what's wrong with my setup, so if someone can redirect me to a 101 dripper/flavour chasing guide, I'd appreciate
its because things are like this mon. You cant have better taste by direct inhaling than mouth hitting. Its the nature of your taste sensation.
tilemahos can do both and mouth hitting has better taste
edit....... I just saw that I disagree with aal lol
tilemahos can do both and mouth hitting has better taste
edit....... I just saw that I disagree with aal lol
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In a while, I will show you a video with the difference between direct inhaling with lips tight around the mouthpiece and with lips loose around mouthpiece. The second option has 2 advantages
1. much bigger smoke
2. You can adjust the hit of your juice. Even if you put a 12% nic in your liquid, you can make it feel like 24% or 3%
1. much bigger smoke
2. You can adjust the hit of your juice. Even if you put a 12% nic in your liquid, you can make it feel like 24% or 3%
Fair enough
My last setup: zenith v2 with a dual micro coil (total 1,2 ohms) with ko gen doh cotton.
Poor flavor when wide open, so I just can't understand why some capers will swear that dripping is the best way to get flavor.
I once had an ok dripping experience with taifun gt dripper that has an air flow on the sides and also below the coil.
Ps: I'm definitely not a cloud chaser
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I'm glad you're not targeting only direct lung type of vape !!
I hope it'll be as good if not better flavor chaser than ithaka
here is a video about smoke on mouth hitting, direct inhaling with tight lips and direct inhaling with loose lips.
The taste is always better on mouth hitting
Mon, the direct inhaling is dangerous for the reasons I mention above. This video is made only to show you whats the difference on smoke with loose lips around mouthpiece. This new way for direct inhaling allows you to adjust the hitting to your lungs and also the time of inhaling and the smoke too
All the above results are on Tilemahos, where the air hits the right way the coil and not only a small surface of it like on drippers
I say again that I am against direct inhaling. On analogs is not bad but on e-cigs the liquid can go direct to the cell of your lungs. Dont forget that liquid is hot too the most of the times. The results of this action are not difficult to be understood
The taste is always better on mouth hitting
Mon, the direct inhaling is dangerous for the reasons I mention above. This video is made only to show you whats the difference on smoke with loose lips around mouthpiece. This new way for direct inhaling allows you to adjust the hitting to your lungs and also the time of inhaling and the smoke too
All the above results are on Tilemahos, where the air hits the right way the coil and not only a small surface of it like on drippers
I say again that I am against direct inhaling. On analogs is not bad but on e-cigs the liquid can go direct to the cell of your lungs. Dont forget that liquid is hot too the most of the times. The results of this action are not difficult to be understood
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Monkkx I've found that many vapers that are newish to dripping actually don't setup correctly their wicks which have a huge impact on flavor. Many guys have a tendency to over wick (too much cotton) and don't set the cotton correctly under and behind the coil. I would suggest you see some videos on youtube from guys like Rip Trippers who BTW is in the process of posting 3 videos of "dripping 101". He's already posted the first one.
no matter what dripper I use, since alway dripping with direct inhaling has always been a poor experience a flavor chaser: all my liquids are way better in a tank than in a dripper.
I'm curious to know what's wrong with my setup, so if someone can redirect me to a 101 dripper/flavour chasing guide, I'd appreciate
Imeo buddy I love you like a brother but when you're wrong you're wrong and I'll explain why.
As you know vapor isn't smoke, it's vaporized liquid so fine that it looks like smoke. In reality if we were to look at vapor under a microscope we would see liquid droplets. these liquid droplets end up in your lungs. If we say that eliquid to your lungs is harmful then none of us should be vaping but that is simply not the case. Saying that direct lung inhaling is harmful is wrong because no matter how you vape ecigs that vapor goes to the lungs, hence liquid droplets end up in your lungs. This is the reason many vapers see their urine change color because the body absorbs and discards that liquid. Is it harmful? Well one thing is for certain, it's childsplay compared to cigarettes. From the studies we have it seems that vapor is actually much less harmful than we initially thought.
As far as lung inhaling having a possibility to get large eliquid drops down the air canal is also a misconception. Unless you lung inhale with your head tilted up and the mod vertical it's pretty much impossible. If any drops do come out the drip tip they end up in your mouth, something that's happened to each and every vaper anyway.
Dripping and lung inhaling if done sensibly by experienced vapers is as safe as any other type of vaping, if it were not we would have already found out since vaping actually started by direct dripping to a coil.
As you know vapor isn't smoke, it's vaporized liquid so fine that it looks like smoke. In reality if we were to look at vapor under a microscope we would see liquid droplets. these liquid droplets end up in your lungs. If we say that eliquid to your lungs is harmful then none of us should be vaping but that is simply not the case. Saying that direct lung inhaling is harmful is wrong because no matter how you vape ecigs that vapor goes to the lungs, hence liquid droplets end up in your lungs. This is the reason many vapers see their urine change color because the body absorbs and discards that liquid. Is it harmful? Well one thing is for certain, it's childsplay compared to cigarettes. From the studies we have it seems that vapor is actually much less harmful than we initially thought.
As far as lung inhaling having a possibility to get large eliquid drops down the air canal is also a misconception. Unless you lung inhale with your head tilted up and the mod vertical it's pretty much impossible. If any drops do come out the drip tip they end up in your mouth, something that's happened to each and every vaper anyway.
Dripping and lung inhaling if done sensibly by experienced vapers is as safe as any other type of vaping, if it were not we would have already found out since vaping actually started by direct dripping to a coil.
Thank you Captain for your post. I love you the same buddy and I am very glad to see you disagree with me because that way we can find the right way on vaping. But what I mean by "liquid inside lungs" is big amounts of liquid. An example that you agree with it, is this: How many times you had liquid in your tongue by direct inhaling? Many of course. Be sure that a lot of this liquid doesnt stop in your tongue.
Also, direct inhaling has another problem that I mention above. You cant control the burned taste. You can blow out the burn taste if you do mouth hitting but not direct inhaling. And burned taste is very hot for your lungs and also has big amounts of acrolein on it
Also, direct inhaling has another problem that I mention above. You cant control the burned taste. You can blow out the burn taste if you do mouth hitting but not direct inhaling. And burned taste is very hot for your lungs and also has big amounts of acrolein on it
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