direct inhaling

[Natron]

Thank you Captain for your post. I love you the same buddy and I am very glad to see you disagree with me because that way we can find the right way on vaping. But what I mean by "liquid inside lungs" is big amounts of liquid. An example that you agree with it, is this: How many times you had liquid in your tongue by direct inhaling? Many of course. Be sure that a lot of this liquid doesnt stop in your tongue.

Also, direct inhaling has another problem that I mention above. You cant control the burned taste. You can blow out the burn taste if you do mouth hitting but not direct inhaling. And burned taste is very hot for your lungs and also has big amounts of acrolein on it

I am far from an expert but I have been vaping this style for quite a time. I find that I have gotten to the point that I can tell when my cottons are to the point of needing juice. There is (for me anyway) a slight shift in flavor/texture when its time to drip. I also don't notice burning drops in my throat or lungs, and as long as one isn't hyperventilating I don't see this as happening so much.

 

[CaptSteve]

Buddy I've never had any more liquid on the tongue than when I mouth to lung inhale with the Ithaca or Odysseus, honestly. In fact when you lung inhale less liquid is in the mouth.

As far as the burt issue I agree and that's why I said it should be done by experienced vapers. I don't get burnt hits because I always ensure my wicks are wet. The problem here is that dripping isn't for everyone because it requires a certain amount of proficiency and experience. However if the vaper knows what he's or she's doing it's as safe as any other form of vaping. Let me ask you this, can you show me a vaper who's never experienced a dry burnt hit? Of course not, it happens to everyone at sometime.
Drippers don't necessarily need to be direct lung inhaled, they can be mouth to lung as well if you reduce the air intake. Likewise I can direct lung inhale the Ithaka, and in fact many vapers do.

Lung inhaling is not anymore harmful than mouth to lung and infact it's felped many vapers reduce their nicotine by more than half because it's more efficient way to vape. Of course to each his own, I'm not saying it's better, all I'm saying is it's not worse buddy

 

[imeothanasis]

I never said that you dont have liquid in your tonque with Ithaka or any other atomizer Captain, we agree on this. I only said that mouth hitters are safer because liquid stays on mouth and never goes to lungs

All vapers had burn taste, I agree again. But mouth hitters can control it by meaning that they will not inhale it, when lung vapers cant do that so the acrolein goes to the lungs

Drippers cant work well for mouth hitters and the reason is below:

1. drippers with a ring:
When you close the ring, the hole that stays open is far away from the coil

2. drippers with specific holes
The smaller the hole, the less surface of the coil is hitted

On Tilemahos, the hole is always steady, also it has a specific diameter and its on the right place (much better than on drippers because its in the middle of coil in all directions) and only the air that comes via this steady hole changes

 

[monkkx]

Imeo ... I'm a little stupid today ... can't you post of picture of tilemahos base so we actually see what you mean ?

 

[CaptSteve]

Tilemahos as I told you today over the phone gave me one of the best vapes I've ever had with the setup I did hands down!!!

Considering the one I'm trying is a prototype, I know the final product will come out great and blow other atties out of the water. However I still insist you need to make a true GG dripper at some point for those vapers that enjoy dripping as well.

I told you before that I need to meet your wife to get her to nag you to death till you make all the stuff we need

 

[imeothanasis]

its easy mon. Think of Ithaka new rebuildable part. Air hole that hits the coil is always specific, steady and hits coil in all directions. Now imagine Tilemahos with a bigger hole.
What is happening here is that the air always comes from the same hole but its less or bigger by adjusting it via esterigon's ring.

Now, imagine a dripper where a different hole everytime hits the coil. The smaller the hole, the smaller area of coil is hitted. Thats not good for mouth hitters. Also, a hole of a dripper cant hit the coil in the middle of all directions. It hits only a part of the surface of the coil

 

[steliosss]

I feel so good been in my "mouth hitting" loneliness!!!!
I tried lung hits for a few days and eventually I managed to be back in health again

Long live Healthy vaping

 

[monkkx]

my attempt to get a pic is a big failure

 

[CaptSteve]

my attempt to get a pic is a big failure

You need to try much harder than that.

PS Check Imeo's latest vids you can see him vaping it

 

[imeothanasis]

Tilemahos as I told you today over the phone gave me one of the best vapes I've ever had with the setup I did hands down!!!

Considering the one I'm trying is a prototype, I know the final product will come out great and blow other atties out of the water. However I still insist you need to make a true GG dripper at some point for those vapers that enjoy dripping as well.

I told you before that I need to meet your wife to get her to nag you to death till you make all the stuff we need

ahahaha, you dont need her because I already said that I will run 2 production lines Captain. One with my constructions and one with your inquires!

I just didnt want to post here what you told me via phone because I didnt want to make any impressions. But I was really glad when I heard that your trick gave you the best vaping experience you ever had Captain!!

 

[imeothanasis]

aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

my attempt to get a pic is a big failure

 

[monkkx]

You need to try much harder than that.

PS Check Imeo's latest vids you can see him vaping it

I'm afraid Imeo would rather spend ours describing his new baby in paraboles rather than posting a pic
I saw the sneak peek video ... but curious to see the guts of the beast now

 

[Aal_]

Just to clarify some things.

Mouth hitters get better flavor but more nicotine by the way. Nicotine gets absorbed in the mouth more than the lungs.

Lung hitters get more vapor and more throat hit.

I do both sometimes in the same drag lol.

Now regarding what captain said, I agree that imeo should do a proper dripper. Dripping also has the ability to always deliver fresh juice something that cannot be done in any tank.

Captain you should try a bottom feeder which I think imeo should also consider .

I agree with imeo that burnt hits can be avoided in the mouth but that doesn't say anything about it being harmful in the lungs more than mouth or vice versa. Regarding droplets in the lungs, if we assume that there is condensation in the lungs then yes I agree with imeo that taking it to mouth first condenses a big number of droplets in the mouth first but we really dunno how much or if it is significantly bigger or even more, if this condensation in the lung is bad.

 

[billypapa]

What's happen's if i inhal direct Imeo ???

Captain we have to try direct inhaling Gin & Tonic i think thats the best for our lungs

 

[CaptSteve]

Shall I make a video tutorial of lung inhaling a Hendricks & Tonic ????

 

[billypapa]

Yes captain do it please

But first a tutorial of making a perfect Gin & Tonic

 

[imeothanasis]

tanks carry fresh liquid too aal. Maybe more fresh than plastic bottles were it sits

As for burn hit, its really dangerous buddy.

Just to clarify some things.

Mouth hitters get better flavor but more nicotine by the way. Nicotine gets absorbed in the mouth more than the lungs.

Lung hitters get more vapor and more throat hit.

I do both sometimes in the same drag lol.

Now regarding what captain said, I agree that imeo should do a proper dripper. Dripping also has the ability to always deliver fresh juice something that cannot be done in any tank.

Captain you should try a bottom feeder which I think imeo should also consider .

I agree with imeo that burnt hits can be avoided in the mouth but that doesn't say anything about it being harmful in the lungs more than mouth or vice versa. Regarding droplets in the lungs, if we assume that there is condensation in the lungs then yes I agree with imeo that taking it to mouth first condenses a big number of droplets in the mouth first but we really dunno how much or if it is significantly bigger or even more, if this condensation in the lung is bad.

 

[monkkx]

I might be wrong, but I think aalwani means fresh in the sense where juice is never in contact with the coils and vaporisation wastes ... as far as I know, all tanks no matter what aren't completly isolated from the "dirty" part of the atomizer ... whereas in dripper, well the tank IS the juice bottle and is away from contamination ...
sqonker and RBA could be enhenced by having some kind of 2nd juice buffer/chamber to isolate the fresh juice in the main tank of the combustion chamber ??

 

[imeothanasis]

drippers make liquid more dirty than tanks mon. On a dripper, the coil is always in touch with almost all the liquid when on a tank the liquid doesnt come in touch with it but only with the liquid on the coil, (at least on GG atomizers because of the AD mouthpiece). Also the dirt of the burned liquid on drippers stays to the wick in much bigger quantities because wick is very very big and keeps dirt inside it (so the fresh liquid comes dirty immediately), when on tanks the wick is very small and thin and the dirt is removed automatically because the so small wick cant hold the dirt that goes to the collector tank (at least on GG atomizers that have collector tank)

 

[monkkx]

I still think there's room for improvement on that specific point ... when a dripper becomes dirty, I can quickly clean it and make a new wick. When a tank full of good/rare/expensive juice turns dark because of the contamination, there's nothing to do but throw away the juice!
That's why on the main reasons why i like small tanks, and usually never completly fill up tanks ... it allows me to waste less juice (I can't stand the idea of vaping contaminated juice and always throw it).
Let your over active brain think of that issue this summer, after a few gin tonics