Discomfort while vaping.

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Rzarect0r

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My juices have been gumming up lately. I bought some USP VG to cut them a bit (and reduce the nic). Technique is becoming more important as time goes on. Any other updates RZA?

The stinging went away, but I'm starting to have my throat get clogged, same sensation as when I used to smoke a lot. Difficulty swallowing and all that jazz..
 

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I can still definitely feel discomfort even when vaping the 75% VG stuff RY4, and I'm wondering maybe it's cause Dekang is a Chinese brand.

I'm going to look for some premium e-liquids that ship either worldwide, or europe. Preferably stuff that isn't made in China, all the discomfort kind of has me worried thinking there might be some seriously hazardous chemicals as quality control isn't China's best feat.
 

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So I've been using my VP for about 3 days now, and while it's been a good experience so far, I'm concerned with the stinging sensation I get in my lungs from using it. It's not during the vaping itself, but usually it comes on shortly after using it.
I wasn't smoking much to begin with, not a daily habit and max 5-7 cigarettes without experiencing the discomfort I am when vaping.

Also, I might add that the juice I'm using is 12mg Dekang - Marlboro flavor (PG based), using a ego-t battery with a kanger protank.
The juice itself hits kind of hard, and definitely has a strong throat hit.

I don't however get out of breath as much as I used to with regular cigarettes, but the stinging sensation I get from it is kind of off putting and makes me wonder whether I should be vaping at all or just quit cold turkey.

I did order some other juices, so I'll try those out tommorow and see if it's any better.
Oddly, I have noticed that maybe for the first 6+ or so draws I take are always on the harsher side, then after that I really don't feel much at all. One thing that seems to work so far for me it to put my clearo or tank on my spinner and turn it way down, once my lungs or perhaps it is the wick gets used to being used than I can crank the spinner up.
What it kind of reminds me of is when one quits analogs for several days and then start smoking again.
 

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Oddly, I have noticed that maybe for the first 6+ or so draws I take are always on the harsher side, then after that I really don't feel much at all. One thing that seems to work so far for me it to put my clearo or tank on my spinner and turn it way down, once my lungs or perhaps it is the wick gets used to being used than I can crank the spinner up.
What it kind of reminds me of is when one quits analogs for several days and then start smoking again.

Agreed. Amy updates?


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So I've been using my VP for about 3 days now, and while it's been a good experience so far, I'm concerned with the stinging sensation I get in my lungs from using it. It's not during the vaping itself, but usually it comes on shortly after using it.
I wasn't smoking much to begin with, not a daily habit and max 5-7 cigarettes without experiencing the discomfort I am when vaping.

Also, I might add that the juice I'm using is 12mg Dekang - Marlboro flavor (PG based), using a ego-t battery with a kanger protank.
The juice itself hits kind of hard, and definitely has a strong throat hit.

I don't however get out of breath as much as I used to with regular cigarettes, but the stinging sensation I get from it is kind of off putting and makes me wonder whether I should be vaping at all or just quit cold turkey.

I did order some other juices, so I'll try those out tommorow and see if it's any better.

How much smoking is "not much"? As in, how much did you smoke before vaping at all? See, a light smoker might get all kinds of "tingling" or "burning" kinds of sensation from 12mg juice. I was a two pack a day smoker (40+ cigs per day) and often use half that. I can go higher for times I "crave" nicotine (like first thing in the morning) as much as 24 to 36 but regular use is 6 to 9 for me. High nicotine juices can give me a "tingly" thing. Usually in my nose when I exhale. Which I actually kind of like but I can't handle it regularly. It causes problems. Too high a nicotine content even for me, the former heavy smoker.

The other is the inhalation "technique". I see Lessifer posted the link already. Smokers are used to inhaling into the lungs to get the nicotine. That can be a problem when you switch to vaping. Your lungs may not care for the water vapor (vaping is, basically, water vapor). Also, given the size of the droplets of vapor as opposed to the particles in smoke, it's probably kind of pointless inhaling into the lungs. The nicotine absorption takes place more in the mouth and nasal passages. The droplets are "big" compared to smoke particles (on a very tiny scale of course) and don't deliver the nic as well in the lungs.

Now, after some time of vaping, I can inhale as deep as I choose without problems. At first, though, I would have a major coughing fit if I tried inhaling into my lungs. Some also report "heavy" feelings and other issues when inhaling vapor into their lungs. It's not necessary to do so in order to get the nicotine and may irritate your lungs. An inhale that's more like a pipe or cigar ("puffing") is better to start with. Hold the vapor in the mouth longer. Exhaling through the nose can pick up more nicotine and flavor. But that "deep" inhale like smoking? Skip it.

And Dekang? Bleah. I can't handle any of their stuff. Some people do like them. Myself, I just can't take any Dekang.

Also, be sure you stay hydrated. Vaping dehydrates you some. You're exhaling water that is being absorbed from your body. You need to be drinking more water when you vape. Inhaling into your lungs may be drying them to some degree and that could be uncomfortable definitely. I'd avoid a deep inhale. Even though I can do it now, I don't. It's kind of pointless since the nic absorption is in the mouth and nose.
 

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Heard of this happening...solution always seemed to be lower the Nic, PG, or heat.
Related question: has anyone experienced tooth-sensitivity? If so, know why? Any fix? Thanks, and good luck!

Yep. In fact, dental issues emerging after a while seems to be common as dirt in vaping.

Apparently, smoking "masks" dental problems. That is, the problems existed and were growing slowly while you were smoking but the smoke was killing back the bacteria and masking the problem. Taking away the poisonous gas you were inhaling (literally, 30+ years of smoking and even I did not know cigs have hydrogen cyanide in them... that's the stuff they used to use in the "gas chambers" to execute people... URK!)... taking that away can result in the existing problem speeding up.

Others also say that the blood flow to your mouth increases as you get further away from your smoking days. I had a rather disturbing run of bleeding gums for a while. Always in areas that were old dental problems. Particularly an old root canal I had ages and ages ago. Which also became very sensitive for a while. I was thinking I was headed for a dentist office soon.

Then it leveled off. That one old root canal spot will sometimes do the "bleeding gum" thing when I brush my teeth in the mornings but it's no longer sensitive. In fact, it seems to be less trouble than it normally has been over the years. Maybe the increased blood flow is improving things over time?

But, oh yeah. Screwy teeth runs in my family. I'm sure I'll be at the dentist office eventually. But if they're right about improved blood flow (and that seems true in my experience), that can cause all kinds of existing issues to emerge. Not much to "do" about it. Except maybe visit the dentist?
 
Yep. In fact, dental issues emerging after a while seems to be common as dirt in vaping.

Apparently, smoking "masks" dental problems. That is, the problems existed and were growing slowly while you were smoking but the smoke was killing back the bacteria and masking the problem. Taking away the poisonous gas you were inhaling (literally, 30+ years of smoking and even I did not know cigs have hydrogen cyanide in them... that's the stuff they used to use in the "gas chambers" to execute people... URK!)... taking that away can result in the existing problem speeding up.

Others also say that the blood flow to your mouth increases as you get further away from your smoking days. I had a rather disturbing run of bleeding gums for a while. Always in areas that were old dental problems. Particularly an old root canal I had ages and ages ago. Which also became very sensitive for a while. I was thinking I was headed for a dentist office soon.

Then it leveled off. That one old root canal spot will sometimes do the "bleeding gum" thing when I brush my teeth in the mornings but it's no longer sensitive. In fact, it seems to be less trouble than it normally has been over the years. Maybe the increased blood flow is improving things over time?

But, oh yeah. Screwy teeth runs in my family. I'm sure I'll be at the dentist office eventually. But if they're right about improved blood flow (and that seems true in my experience), that can cause all kinds of existing issues to emerge. Not much to "do" about it. Except maybe visit the dentist?

Thanks for the reply...I'm a medic, and everything you said makes sense. Now, I'm not a dentist, but thinking about this, I would say that brushing more often and maybe more (vigorously?) should help, along with daily flossing and maybe even rinsing with mouth wash and/or hydrogen peroxide. Flossing daily will certainly help, if not get rid of, the bleeding gums. Good luck!


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As others have stated, It's most likely an allergic reaction to the PG. A friend of mine who also vapes can not use juices that contain more than 10% PG. When I DIY juices for him, I usually do an 80/20 blend (80% VG, 20% distilled water). He's had no issues with coughing or throat irritation since switching to the 80/20 with distilled water.
 
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