What's Up With This "Throat Hit" Thing?

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eethr

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I don't know how people use 50/50 with nic. I tried a few friends and it feels like a million tiny needles in my lungs. Then when they try mine they always like how smooth it is.

I much prefer the feeling of seeing a big vapor cloud over the giant sting in my chest, but it really is all about preference. Just like everything else in vaping.

I didn't get the feeling in my lungs, but in my throat and mouth. And it is cumulative for awhile, so that I have to stop vaping until it goes away, or eat or drink something.

I think the increased vapor will be enough of a physical cue to satisfy me in addition to the nicotine, and I'll be able to do without the sting, too.
 

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If i can get a throat hit without nicotine. I will quit nicotine altogether.

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Vaping in general seems to have an extremely wide range of likes and dislikes, in everything from juice flavor types to equipment, and even how and when. And the throat hit phenomenon apparently is included in that, as it goes full spectrum in just this thread!

I guess the main thing is that it looks like 99% of us are off cigarettes (and the weird chemicals they put in them). And the other 1% are well on their way.

Myself, I had a morning cigarette about three times in my first six weeks of vaping, and the next time I tried one it tasted awful and I really couldn't finish it. It's like I could taste all the crap in it. And that will be it for cigs for me.
 

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I like a little bit, but not too much that it burns. When I take a drag, the first half is a lung hit and then the second half I just inhale into my mouth. Then I inhale all of that vapor that's in my mouth into my lungs before exhaling completely. :)

Maybe I'm weird.

When I smoked, I would draw it and pause it in my mouth for a second or two before inhaling it. When I noticed myself doing that, I figured it was cooling the smoke off some, and thus reducing the stinging sensation.

But I found myself doing the same thing when vaping, if I was getting the throat hit sting. I don't know if the vape is all that hot that it needs cooling, or if it just diffuses it enough to prevent stinging that way. It sounds like a similar effect to what you do.

Another thing I caught myself doing is blowing out a short puff before inhaling. Maybe it thins it out some?

Sometimes I push it out of my mouth, and inhale it through my nose. It gives flavor through the nose, and seems to reduce or eliminate throat burn, depending on the condition of the juice. If the juice is strong with nic, or really needs steeping, it makes me sneeze, though, and stings my nose, which is a weird feeling.

I don't have a juice that I can do a lung hit of any kind with, yet. But I'm working on it.
 

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When I smoked, I would draw it and pause it in my mouth for a second or two before inhaling it. When I noticed myself doing that, I figured it was cooling the smoke off some, and thus reducing the stinging sensation.

But I found myself doing the same thing when vaping, if I was getting the throat hit sting. I don't know if the vape is all that hot that it needs cooling, or if it just diffuses it enough to prevent stinging that way. It sounds like a similar effect to what you do.

Another thing I caught myself doing is blowing out a short puff before inhaling. Maybe it thins it out some?

Sometimes I push it out of my mouth, and inhale it through my nose. It gives flavor through the nose, and seems to reduce or eliminate throat burn, depending on the condition of the juice. If the juice is strong with nic, or really needs steeping, it makes me sneeze, though, and stings my nose, which is a weird feeling.

I don't have a juice that I can do a lung hit of any kind with, yet. But I'm working on it.

What you described there is the best way of vapinng to enjoy all the flavours vaping has to offer.

With smoking you are supposed to puff and inhale as fast as you can so the nicotine hits your blood.

With vaping I find myself rolling my tongue to enjoy the flavours and then after the inhale blow it half through your mouth and half through your nose and you will taste the flavour change again. It sounds like you had the technique right before, now it's just adjusting to vapor instead of fire and smoke. You are well on your way.
 

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Throat hit is where the nicotine you crave hits your throat, i used to be a ...... addict (smoked) and would be able to tell the quality of the ...... by how much my throat grabbed the smoke, if it was duff you would get no throat hit, even off some really acrid adulterant. Got over it now though, and over a much harder addiction to quit thanks to my vaporiser.
 

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The "throat hit" is what i'm addicted too !. And ask anybody, VG doesn't give a thoat hit. It's what i use, 100% vg, and without 36mg of nicotine, or there abouts, i simply wouldn't bother !.

To me pg is just rough on the throat, it's not the kind of hit i'm after, so i don't use it. If i did then the nicitone hit wouldn't be noticeable at all. PG disguises the nicotine throat hit, whereas VG is so totally smooth that it allows me to experience the nicotine with a very conscious sensation.:vapor:..:).
 
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eethr

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What you described there is the best way of vapinng to enjoy all the flavours vaping has to offer.

With smoking you are supposed to puff and inhale as fast as you can so the nicotine hits your blood.

With vaping I find myself rolling my tongue to enjoy the flavours and then after the inhale blow it half through your mouth and half through your nose and you will taste the flavour change again. It sounds like you had the technique right before, now it's just adjusting to vapor instead of fire and smoke. You are well on your way.

Yep, I found myself doing those kinds of things too. Vapor going in and out of everywhere, with swirls of it surrounding my head. Then I thought, jeez, I wonder what that would look like to someone else if they were watching---and weren't vapers? But then, what the hey, they need to learn sometime or another!
 

eethr

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Throat hit is where the nicotine you crave hits your throat, i used to be a ...... addict (smoked) and would be able to tell the quality of the ...... by how much my throat grabbed the smoke, if it was duff you would get no throat hit, even off some really acrid adulterant. Got over it now though, and over a much harder addiction to quit thanks to my vaporiser.

I have been, in the distant past, somewhat familiar with what you are talking about. I noticed some very heavy throat hits sometimes, but never directly related it with the strength. It makes sense now that you mention it.

What kind of a throat do you prefer now, smooth or hit?
 
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eethr

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The "throat hit" is what i'm addicted too !. And ask anybody, VG doesn't give a thoat hit. It's what i use, 100% vg, and without 36mg of nicotine, or there abouts, i simply wouldn't bother !.

To me pg is just rough on the throat, it's not the kind of hit i'm after, so i don't use it. If i did then the nicitone hit wouldn't be noticeable at all. PG disguises the nicotine throat hit, whereas VG is so totally smooth that it allows me to experience the nicotine with a very conscious sensation.:vapor:..:).

Interesting about the PG. I have read that it produces a throat hit also, but didn't realize there was a difference.

With me, I can start out with almost no throat sting sensation, but it builds as I vape. Then after awhile, my tongue and throat get so sensitive that I don't want to vape anymore for awhile. Usually drink some coffee or something, or eat, and after than I can vape again for a little while. I diluted the juice that I have with VG, but it reduces the flavor too. So I've got some flavor extracts due in this week, and I can go as low on the nic as I want and still taste some flavors.

I'm starting to suspect that waiting awhile also results in my atomizer cooling down, too. Maybe that has something to do with it as well?
 

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Interesting about the PG. I have read that it produces a throat hit also, but didn't realize there was a difference.

With me, I can start out with almost no throat sting sensation, but it builds as I vape. Then after awhile, my tongue and throat get so sensitive that I don't want to vape anymore for awhile. Usually drink some coffee or something, or eat, and after than I can vape again for a little while. I diluted the juice that I have with VG, but it reduces the flavor too. So I've got some flavor extracts due in this week, and I can go as low on the nic as I want and still taste some flavors.

I'm starting to suspect that waiting awhile also results in my atomizer cooling down, too. Maybe that has something to do with it as well?

It's a totally different thing. The throat hit sensation from pg is more like "grazing" your throat, if you know what i mean. but the hit from nicotine is just a harmless sensation. Two totally different things entirely. I don't get a dry or sore throat from vaping 100% vg all day everyday. Vaping with pg will eventually give a user a sore throat !.
 

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However, I also can't understand people who like hot peppers. They burn my mouth, overpower any flavor in what I'm eating, and my mouth and throat burn even after I'm finished eating. But apparently they have their own good reasons to like it. I guess it's the same with throat hit. Personally, I can absolutely do without it.

You got to have spice in your life to let you know you're alive!! In Texas, we start the kiddos on the hot stuff right away. Those that survive are tough enough to be Texans!!!

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It's just a joke folks, I don't suggest we feed salsa to babies......we start 'em out on guacamole!!
 

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Many people use distilled water to cut the VG. 5-10% seems to be the norm. Most of the ones you get from a juice manufacturer will be cut a little to begin with. It will definitely lower the taste a little if you do it more. The nicotine has a peppery burn to it. It's higher concentration than what you get in a cigarette because it doesn't get into your system as efficiently in vapor. The molecules of vapor are 10 times bigger than smoke and don't infuse into your lungs much. They get into your mouth and nasal passages more. Just the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

so that explains why my vape exhale is 10 times bigger than my smoke exhale... and I dont subohm
 

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I have been, in the distant past, somewhat familiar with what you are talking about. I noticed some very heavy throat hits sometimes, but never directly related it with the strength. It makes sense now that you mention it.

What kind of a throat do you prefer now, smooth or hit?

I like to feel the nic tingle on my throat, not too keen on the dry scratch of the pg, but in moderation it seems to complement the nic 'feel'.
 

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Throat hit is the nasty thing that high PG juice does to my throat, more of a harshness hit. Throat hit can also be associated with the effect that is felt when the flavor hits the back of your throat. Usually a nasty throat hit happens when you get a dry hit throat hit, more of a smak you down hard beecht throat hit.

Everything effects the type of throat hit experienced, PG/VG, nci level, flavor strength, watts vaped at, distance of air from coil, .... Lack of any throat hit is usually an indication that your gear sucks, or you don't have the volts/watts up high enough.

Throat hit seems to be every bit as subjective as the elusive all day vape. ADV. And I believe people often refer to different things when talking about it.
 

eethr

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It's a totally different thing. The throat hit sensation from pg is more like "grazing" your throat, if you know what i mean. but the hit from nicotine is just a harmless sensation. Two totally different things entirely. I don't get a dry or sore throat from vaping 100% vg all day everyday. Vaping with pg will eventually give a user a sore throat !.

Well, you just saved me, and hopefully a lot of other newbies, a lot of trial and error!

I'll probably order a small amount of straight PG at some point and vape it by itself, just to experience it for myself. But now that I know what to look for, it saves trying to figure out which component is doing what. Thanks.
 

eethr

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You got to have spice in your life to let you know you're alive!! In Texas, we start the kiddos on the hot stuff right away. Those that survive are tough enough to be Texans!!!

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It's just a joke folks, I don't suggest we feed salsa to babies......we start 'em out on guacamole!!

So that's why Texans are so tough!

That's not the stuff that's made in New York, is it? (If so...get the rope!)
 

eethr

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I like to feel the nic tingle on my throat, not too keen on the dry scratch of the pg, but in moderation it seems to complement the nic 'feel'.

What I'm getting seems to be more than a tingle. It is a burning or stinging sensation. It builds up after many tokes, and burns my throat, mouth, and tongue. Maybe some PG got in there somehow.

I'll be mixing my own, with just VG this week, so I can experiment with various nic levels. Just need to make sure my math is correct, but there are lots of explanations of how to do that on here and YouTube, so I can double-check myself.

Your description helps me know what to look for, so thanks.
 

eethr

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Throat hit is the nasty thing that high PG juice does to my throat, more of a harshness hit. Throat hit can also be associated with the effect that is felt when the flavor hits the back of your throat. Usually a nasty throat hit happens when you get a dry hit throat hit, more of a smak you down hard beecht throat hit.

Everything effects the type of throat hit experienced, PG/VG, nci level, flavor strength, watts vaped at, distance of air from coil, .... Lack of any throat hit is usually an indication that your gear sucks, or you don't have the volts/watts up high enough.

Throat hit seems to be every bit as subjective as the elusive all day vape. ADV. And I believe people often refer to different things when talking about it.

Good info---thanks much.

I got the feeling, when reading various posts which mentioned throat hit, that people might be talking about different effects. So that's one reason I posted.

I think I'm looking for a smooth, mellow vape. I don't think I'll miss the throat hit, at least not as strong and lasting as what I'm getting now. Also my current clearomizer (this is only my second, the first was a disposable from a cigarette store) came with only 1.8 ohm (bottom) coils, so from what you said, it might be smoother on the throat with something higher like 2.5 - 2.6.

Thanks again for the additional ideas.
 
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