discreet e-cig recommendation for a new user?

[soshot]

I smoke more than a pack a day of Marlboro reds. I like to switch to e-cigs, but am not having much success. So far, I've tried several the gas station e-cigs, mall brands and the Victory groupon (which looks like a 510 system with cartomizers).

The gas station menthols have worked the best at satisfying my cravings. The Victory ecigs didn't have enough taste or nicotine.

I'm hoping to discreetly vape. I don't want the system to look anything like an analog or a drug pipe. (Some of the mouth pieces look like crack pipe fittings.) I've been looking at 510 systems with a separate, refillable atomizer and cartridge. I'm fine with mid-size or using a manual system. I indifferent about a tip light, but I don't want red. I'd rather not have a lot of extra bling or lights. I want something that is very plain.

I'd like 24 mg liquid with the harsh feeling of analog without a smell (for now at least).

I'd prefer to buy a kit, but, after clicking through several of the vendors, haven't found one that looks like what I need.

I don't mind paying a little extra to get the right equipment to start and to buy everything from a single vendor.

 

[Strigoi]

I've never tried one, but have read lots of positive reviews of the KGO. KGO kit1100mAh by SLB

Here's a youtube review of it: A PBusardo Review - KGO Kit - Hoosier E Cig Supply - YouTube (he's a well respected reviewer)

 

[sailorman]

Sounds like you want a PV thats roughly the size of a cigarette. Here's the bad news. There are only a couple small PVs that are worth spending a plugged nickel on. If you smoke more than a pack a day, you will not be satisfied with them for long. A small battery is a small battery. It's physics and there's nothing anyone can do about it. If you get one of those little e-cigs, prepare to have at least 3 or 4 batteries, maybe more as they age. Prepare to spend a lot of time swapping batteries until you get sick of it and forget all about that "discreet" thing. Also prepare for a lot of extra expense. There is nothing discreet about anything even remotely resembling an analog. A larger PV draws far less attention and questions than a little e-cig does.

Having said all that, (been there, done that) if you absolutely insist, here is the list of e-cigs that are even worth considering. (99.9% of them are junk)

1. the Volt, from SmokelessImage.com is Analog shaped, but all black

2. The Bloog Fusionmaxx From Bloog is similar to the Volt.

3. The Halo G6 (you'll have to google that, I forgot the website.)

There you have it. Those are the best performers in a dismally performing class of e-cigs.

The smaller the e-cig, the worse it performs. Period. No way around it.

If you get sick of all the expense and hassles from people who think you're smoking in a non-smoking area, you can take a look at some decent PV's more suitable for your smoking level. These are mid sized and great starter kits.
These are all 510 systems with manual batteries.
They all (except the eGos) take a wide variety of refillable cartomizers, tanks, etc.
None of them have special druggie looking mouthpieces. Whatever you want to stick on the end of them is pretty much up to you, (again, except the eGo T and C).

1. The e-Power, has replaceable batteries, which is a big + in my book. This is #1 recommendation. A bit larger than the kGo, but the 16450 version is still fairly small and has a battery that should last you most of the day or maybe the whole day.

2. The kGo, smallish, like a Sharpie marker, but it's essentially disposable and costs no less than the e-Power. Battery is same as the 16450 epower. Very good, reliable and pretty discreet.

3. One of the eGo types, such as the eGo-C or eGo-T. Same as the kGo, but have fancy cartomizers and tanks that some people have trouble with. When they work, they work great. But there is a lot of stuff that you can't use on these, or if you can, it looks really wierd. Matter of fact, I don't know why I put that on the list except that there are some people who swear by them.

Nowadays, most systems that use a separate atomizer and cartridge use proprietary atomizers and cartridges. That can add up fast, as those are consumable items. It''s an attempt to revive the old atomizer/cartridge system from years ago. IMO, it's a gimmicky rip-off that's entirely unnecessary. There are great cartomizers on the market that make the need for that old scheme obsolete. Stick with something that takes anything with a 510 connector and you'll be good to go.

 

[CountSmackula]

I started with one of the ego clones (1100mAh @ 3.7v) and 36mg juice to kick my PAD 'bro habit. It's about the size of a Sharpie. I bought it in stainless fora more professional look (I call it my 'inhaler' if people ask what it is).

I now have a 3.7v box mod that I won from Mr. Vape. It's white and not much bigger than 2 AA batteries. The clearo I use on it is also about the size of an AA battery. The box mod sits well in my shirt pocket and is a bit lighter. It has an on-off switch to keep it from firing while not in use. It easily fits in your pants pocket too, unless you wear the super-tight hipster pants. LoL

Either one is fairly easy to conceal and that makes it easy to stealth vape.

 

[sailorman]

...
Either one is fairly easy to conceal and that makes it easy to stealth vape.

Come on, Count. Man up. It's sneak vape. Nothing wrong with it. Say it out loud. Now, don't you feel better?

 

[Kinotto]

... I'm hoping to discreetly vape. I don't want the system to look anything like an analog or a drug pipe. (Some of the mouth pieces look like crack pipe fittings.)

you want a vp to take whit yourself?

 

[Huffelpuff]

I use my Reo Mini for out and about. It's tiny enough to palm and vape w/ a great feeder so that you don't have to drip or top off. Is just so perfect for the pocket. Good luck on your search!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Just a couple quick notes... the E-Power sailorman refers to is (I believe) the 14650; that's the PV I've been using for a good while now & it's great. Also, I can't remember who has it but somebody offers (or offered) an Altoid box mod, which is literally a mod made out of an Altoid mint box. Looked pretty interesting to me from a functional standpoint, as everything seemed to fit nicely in there....

Best of luck, & Happy Vaping!

 

[CountSmackula]

Smartvapes still shows the Altoids mod on their site, but it's always out of stock. I'd buy one if they ever had 'em. Love me some Altoids.

 

[MickeyRat]

...They all (except the eGos) take a wide variety of refillable cartomizers, tanks, etc.
None of them have special druggie looking mouthpieces. Whatever you want to stick on the end of them is pretty much up to you, (again, except the eGo T and C)....

I actually agree with your post but, I'm not so sure I agree with the exception you made here. My first real PV after the first horrible retail kit I bought was an ego-t. I didn't like the tank but, the ego is still standard 510 threading and it takes everything the others take. So, I don't get it. I will throw in a plug for the e-power. I think it's the best choice in the ego style class.

Soshot, no matter how strange a mod you are using looks, very few people will think it's an illicit device, if you use it openly. Remember you aren't smoking and people can tell the difference. Most places there's no reason to sneak. I wouldn't do it if anyone objected but, I've never had that happen. In public, cigarette looking devices are a bad idea though and in restaurants and small businesses, it's best to ask.

 

[jtpjc]

Once again this size comparison picture comes in handy. A standard 510, The Cursed One, Riva 650, KR808D-1:

 

[440BB]

The Madvapes Gripper Gripper or the Roughstack RoughStack V2
are small, don't look like a cigarette and pack a punch. They use removable batteries, 16340 or 18350 so you'd need a couple of those and a charger. The Gripper needs XL cartos and a drip tip and is cheap, while the Rouchstack is more durable and can use more carto types. Just my opinion, but combined with batteries, charger and cartos these would fit your needs pretty well.

 

[soshot]

Thanks for the great advice.

I’ll primarily vape in my car and at home. I doubt I’ll try to openly vape in no smoking areas.

However, I’d like to be able to sneak a few puffs in my office, the airport, my girlfriends place, or a back corner of non-smoking section without the telltale smell giving me away.

I’m looking for something that easy to carry in briefcase or pocket that isn’t going to generate a lot of questions if someone (or the TSA or local law enforcement) finds it. However, I’d like to be able to use it, at least lightly, most of the day so it doesn’t appear pen-like systems are going to be enough for me.

What do you think of the following?


Joye eGo-C Starter Kit

Joye eGo-C Starter Kit | Joyetech eGo-C E Cigarette

MVari-Stick Starter Kit with a 510 DCTank Combo and 510 DCTank Cartomizer - 5 Pack

MVari-Stick Variable Voltage Mod - Starter Kit
SMOKTech 510 Dual Coil Tank Combo
SMOKTech 510 Dual Coil Tank Cartomizer - 5 Pack

ProVape-1 Beginners Kit V2.1, DCT Cartomizer Tank - 6.0ml & 3.5ml and a few Replacement DCT cartomizer with hole punched.

ProVape electronic cigarette battery mod
510 DCT Cartomizer Tank
510 DCT Cartomizer Tank
ECig Cartomizers: E-Cig 510 Cartomizer, E-Cig Cartomizer from ProVape

The eGo-C looks the easiest to carry (but probably the least functional); MVari-Stick seems like it would be a flexible platform and the ProVape-1 just looks, well, solid.

Am I missing anything other than a liquid? Is 3 or 4 15ml bottle good for a few weeks?

Does anyone make a non-scented liquid?

 

[shmeer]

Honestly the ego-c has been great for me.. I know many people here seem to dislike it, but in all honestly it's simple and has worked for me. I have 10 or so tanks filled with different juice, all fitted with soft caps (never get leaking issues or dry hits) and the swappable attomizers are perfect if you want to assign certain stronger flavored juices to certain attomizers. I use mine regularly through the day, much like I used to smoke (6-8 cigarettes a day). I only need to recharge my batteries every 2 days and have yet to have a battery die on me during the day.

If you want the best of the best, then ego-c is not the PV to choose, their are a lot better options. However, I think a lot of people on this forum forget sometimes people just want a functional, good performing smoking alternative. I don't want an extravagant device as this isn't as much of a hobby for me as it is for some. The ego gives me awesome tasting vapor, and works amazing. Simple as that. If you just want something to help you get off cigs the ego-c would be a pretty good choice. I'm by no means settling for less, I just chose what works for me.

hope that helps in some way, good luck finding a device that works for you.

 

[sailorman]

Try a Baby Bullet fro altsmoke.com

It's super durable, extremely reliable and simple, takes 14500 batteries, so you can vape most of the day on a 900mah AW ICR battery.
It fits easily in a pocket or in the palm of your hand with only the carto sticking out. It doesn't take any special maintenance and you can give it to your grandchildren when you die.

In short, it's a no B.S., no gimmick, discreet, low/no maintenace vaping machine.

 

[MickeyRat]

I'll skip my gobs of reasons why we should vape in public and answer your question.

What do you think of the following?


Joye eGo-C Starter Kit

Joye eGo-C Starter Kit | Joyetech eGo-C E Cigarette

MVari-Stick Starter Kit with a 510 DCTank Combo and 510 DCTank Cartomizer - 5 Pack

MVari-Stick Variable Voltage Mod - Starter Kit
SMOKTech 510 Dual Coil Tank Combo
SMOKTech 510 Dual Coil Tank Cartomizer - 5 Pack

ProVape-1 Beginners Kit V2.1, DCT Cartomizer Tank - 6.0ml & 3.5ml and a few Replacement DCT cartomizer with hole punched.

ProVape electronic cigarette battery mod
510 DCT Cartomizer Tank
510 DCT Cartomizer Tank
ECig Cartomizers: E-Cig 510 Cartomizer, E-Cig Cartomizer from ProVape

The eGo-C looks the easiest to carry (but probably the least functional); MVari-Stick seems like it would be a flexible platform and the ProVape-1 just looks, well, solid.

Am I missing anything other than a liquid? Is 3 or 4 15ml bottle good for a few weeks?

Does anyone make a non-scented liquid?

The eGo tanks t, b, and c are liked by a lot of people and for a lot of people including me it's their first real PV. I ended up moving to something else fairly quickly though. I can't say whether you'll be one that likes it or not. There doesn't seem to be an inbetween. You either like it or you don't.

The MVari appears to be one of the numerous rebranded lavatubes. That's not really a bad device but, it's 2.5 amp limitation makes it unsuitable for many dual coil cartos and those are all the rage.

That provape actually looks pretty interesting. People are so gaga over the Provaris (There'll be someone on this thread singing their praises in a minute.), I didn't even know about that one. OTOH I can see why I've never heard of it, it's really pricey for what it is. You probably won't get the same fit and finish but, you can get the equivalent performance for quite a bit less money.

You might want to take a look at the roughstack or the bolt at madvapes or an e-power.

As far as DCT tanks go. They are without a doubt the most convenient way to vape. However, I hesitate to recommend them to someone starting out because you are commiting a lot of juice when you fill one. I'd be using one but, I really don't like filler. If I were you, I'd probably just use cartos for a little while.

As far as juice goes, it should be juices. You don't know what flavor and PG/VG ratio you are going to like nor do you know what nic level is going to work for you and it takes a while to figure that out. Most people go through 3 to 6 ml a day. I would plan on getting a weeks supply but, ordering more every few days for a while. Make sure that you get a couple atomizers and a drip tip. You need to be able to sample a juice before you fill a carto with it.

 

[dlsw]

For true stealth, an SD key ring is pretty nifty. THE SD KEY RING E-CIG BY TROG

 

[danzac]

I purchased a gripper because I wanted a stealth VP for work. The gripper extension is out of stock for now 510. I tried a Boge 510D XL Black Empty Cartomizer and it would not line up. It aligned just right and screwed it very easy after I peeled the black tape cover off. Warning, you will need to use a needle nose pliers spreading it in the inside wall of your cart to twist it out since it doesn't stick out. I wanted the carto to extend out further so I tried 510 to 510 adapter that worked. Still I wanted it to extend out even further, so I used another 510 to 510. The 2 adapters and the Boge fit perfect. The carto extends out the top approximately 9/8", with a derlin drip tip about 1 1/2"" total.

I also made the carto into drip carto-atty from getting the idea from a on one of the vaping boards. I took the stuffing out and cut small piece of it off. I then filled the the carto back up with ejuice just slightly under the center air tube. I took the small piece of filler and fluffed it up and placed it on top making sure not to block the air flow from the center air hole spout. It draws like an atty and it creates more vaping smoke. It's like a mini tank atty that works great!

 

[danzac]

For true stealth, an SD key ring is pretty nifty. THE SD KEY RING E-CIG BY TROG

I just got one and the battery died on me after trying my 3rd charge. It's usless. The battery is so small and there is no way to replace the battery. I asked for some feedback on this several times but was ignored by Brian over at Clouds of Vapor. Thought he should at least get back to me, because I purchase lots of stuff that day. A 5Volt WOW, Tenergy 2 LiFePo4 Batteries and Charger Pack, 3 different adapters.
He just lost a very good customer. You would be better off getting the Gripper for $20.00.

 

[danzac]

I purchased a gripper because I wanted a stealth VP for work. The gripper extension is out of stock for now 510. I tried a Boge 510D XL Black Empty Cartomizer and it would not line up. It aligned just right and screwed it very easy after I peeled the black tape cover off. Warning, you will need to use a needle nose pliers spreading it in the inside wall of your cart to twist it out since it doesn't stick out. I wanted the carto to extend out further so I tried 510 to 510 adapter that worked. Still I wanted it to extend out even further, so I used another 510 to 510. The 2 adapters and the Boge fit perfect. The carto extends out the top approximately 9/8", with a derlin drip tip about 1 1/2"" total.

I also made the carto into drip carto-atty from getting the idea from a on one of the vaping boards. I took the stuffing out and cut small piece of it off. I then filled the the carto back up with ejuice just slightly under the center air tube. I took the small piece of filler and fluffed it up and placed it on top making sure not to block the air flow from the center air hole spout. It draws like an atty and it creates more vaping smoke. It's like a mini tank atty that works great!

I remember reading that adapters may get stuck in the Gripper. I haved to correct my post. It seems I forgot that I had put a 510 to 901 adapter in and it got stuck. ( Now I know where the hell this adapter went!)
So what I have is a 510 to 901 adapter stuck inside the Gripper ( I wanted try some of my 901 atty's ) and I added my Boge XL carto that I set up with a 510 to 510 adapter. Then added on the 901 to 510 adapter to this before I placed it in the Gripper. This is why my carto extends out the top approximately 9/8", with a derlin drip tip about 1 1/2"" total. I didn't realize I had 3 adapters now attached to my carto. I guess by reading this you can tell I'm a newbie!!
Once I saw that there was a 510 to 901 adapter stuck inside, I just used the 901 to 510 adapter on my carto.
It extends out 1 1/14" with the drip tip. I like this better, as I'm only using 2 adapters instead of 3 and has a tighter draw for better vaping.