dissolvable tobacco soaked in zero-nic e-liquid; good idea or bad idea?

[sqirl1]

so I got me some wintergreen stonewall at my local gas station and I liked the feel of it, but I thought the flavor could use some spicing up. well, I just got an idea: what if I soaked it in some 0 nic e-liquid for a while then let it dry out before I used it? think it would taste good? I was thinking some Nuport nobacco juice would intensify the mint flavor a bit, what do you guys think?

 

[Elwin]

I'd say bad idea.
If you really want to know what it would taste like, do this experiment: put a couple of drops of e-liquid in your mouth, swish it around and see what you think. Doesn't matter whether it's 0 nic or not.
The reason I say this is because no matter what you do, it's not going to dry out completely.
It's the nature of e-liquids.
It's not just water and flavoring in there.
Both VG and PG are humectants: that means that they absorb water - not just carry it.
So what you would end up with is a gooey tab of Stonewall that tasted like e-liquid.

You could try just plain flavorings, but I think you're going to be disappointed no matter what.

Edit:
And remember: the idea of Stonewall is to slowly dissolve while your gums and mouth have a chance to absorb the nicotine. Making it taste better would probably just tempt you into sucking it harder, and not giving it a chance to absorb properly.

 

[sqirl1]

good point. I think for the most part I'll just stick to my E-cig then, I'll just get stonewall for when I'm at work (store I work at doesn't allow E-cigs, doesn't allow smokeless tobacco either, but I doubt I'd get busted with dissolvable tobacco).

 

[hittman]

In my opinion, the java stonewalls have a much better flavor. I didn't like the wintergreen at all.

 

[W Axl Rose]

and the original is just plain terrible!!

 

[rothenbj]

Plus if you get the Stonewall BDLs, they're not tobacco products, they're something else made with tobacco according to the FDA.

 

[Stubby]

I kind of like the Stonewall Naturals. Okay..... it has a fairly heavy lean towards a smoky type flavor, and a bit artificial tint to it. But at least it not quite as sweet as the Java's. I like the Java's better then the natural but it's so sweet it can get to be a bit to much rather quickly. If all I was doing was stonewalls these would be very much in my regular rotation. I know there is some users over at snuson that prefer the natural over the Java because it's not so sweet.

Just send me your natural stonewall and I guarantee they will not go to waste.

Aside from that I still a bit confused as to if Stonewall BDL's are a different product from Stonewalls. Is this a new ultra low TSNA product or just a rebranding of the old?

 

[rothenbj]

Stubby, I wish I could find it, but I don't even know where to look but someone had written (article or comment, I'm not sure since I've read so much since the FDA said they weren't a tobacco product) that the BDLs were the result of a technological change in how they process the tobacco which had lowered the level of tsnas to below detectable levels. In my mind, I wouldn't expect that they'd continue to make the original products is there is no difference in taste but there again, branding might be a marketing issue. "Try our original Stonewalls, the TSNAs taste good like a TSNA should" might be a catchy throwback marketing jingle.

 

[W Axl Rose]

What does BDL stand for?

 

[BCB]

Below detection levels?

Badly determined logistics?

Better distillation launch?

 

[hittman]

Brown

Duck

Logs

 

[rothenbj]

BCB, I think you got it with you're first quess. I thought I posted mine, but it's not here, perhaps it got edited, "....***** defy logic". You're free to fill in the blanks. I also see you found your way across the tracks!

 

[BCB]

I've been lurking here ever since they turned me on to snus and I stopped going crazy. (Well, slowed the descent.)

Major bummer about the EU ban on snus. Scheesch!

 

[Vocalek]

This says it stands for Below Detectable Levels

http://www.thecre.com/tpsacnews/?p=434

 

[sqirl1]

so I've pretty much figured that it's not a good idea to do this to stonewall, but what about to snus? I got some original flavor General Snus that I don't like that much (it's the kind that's pretty moist anyway), what about some flavor on that? I saw some of that stuff you spray on analogs to add flavor at a local tobacco shop, could that work on Snus?

 

[Guttermouth]

Theoretically you can add anything to snus that you want to.as long as it's water soluble and you've got a couple of days to wait - you can follow the guidelines for snusx and get in the ballpark:
Snubie.com Snus Reviews, News, and Information.: SnusX Day 1: Make Your Own Snus. 2 Mar 2010.

now whether or not you want to swallow the flavoring sprays or vg is your own call.If it's the same stuff seedman sells :
Tobacco Flavorings for Home Grown Tobacco
then you should be ok.Although inhaling something and swallowing something are two different things and i'm not sure that i would trust some random (probably chinese manufactured) spray on tobacco flavoring from a headshop counter going into my stomach.
One of the huge positive aspects of snus is the transparency and high quality of manufacturing and ingredients and i'm not sure i would want to abandon that without getting through at least 1 whole can first.Alot of snus is manufactured with foreign taste profiles in mind so it may be a bit weird at first but, if you give it a chance, you may end up loving it.

 

[sqirl1]

my problem is I just don't like a lot of salt. when I get a pretzel at a concession stand, I brush all the salt off before I eat it. maybe I'll just stick to mint stuff.

 

[hittman]

Tropical Bob used to flavor his own snus all of the time. If its a flavoring that is safe for consumption then I would think it would be fine but I wouldn't do a lot at once unless you know how long the flavoring would be Goo for.

 

[Guttermouth]

my problem is I just don't like a lot of salt. when I get a pretzel at a concession stand, I brush all the salt off before I eat it. maybe I'll just stick to mint stuff.

Historically,salt was an ingredient in all snus to help with the taste and act as a preservative.some brands and flavors have more salt and bicarbonate than others but, there are a few that are geared towards the sweeter side of things now.General mint,alot of the offroad offerings,jakobsson's,and the fellini stuff tend to be on the sweeter,less salty side of things.
As a general rule of thumb, all the straight tobacco flavored snus is going to seem to have more salt than the flavored offerings though.

 

[Stubby]

As Guttermouth said, you adjust to the salt in the straight tobacco and bergamot snus. After a few days, or a week a most you hardly notice it. It just kind of fades to the background and you'll start noticing other flavors. A good idea for beginners (also works for long time users) is to take a sip of water or some other drink of choice to cut down on the build up of salt and other flavors.