DIY Ejuice Q's
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Not a problem. Always glad to help out.Ahh, I better stick to the baby for now lol. Ty for clarifying
Remember to put in the coupon code of MAP in FT when ordering to get the lower price.Ahh, I better stick to the baby for now lol. Ty for clarifying
Is it the same thing as Demon Drop?
Thanks everyone for so much great information and walking me through purchasing an RDA as I know NOTHING about them! Guess thats about to change, lol. Seriously though, you guys are awesomeness! 
Sorry I didn’t see this before asking you in the other post about “tasting.” I’m interested in how the PG alternative turns out for you! Hope it works for you
Okay, so I have more q’s and probably not the last lol. I mixed my first bottle today. I wanted to keep it simple the first time. So I used FW Unicorn Vomit as a stand alone. All my bases are from Nude Nicotine. I know it needs to steep but my initial thoughts on my mix is worry because it seems a bit harsh. My numbers are 60VG/40PG, Nic 3 (100mg strength) & 15% FW Unicorn Vomit. I researched ELR to see the percentages others are mixing this flavor. Its a wide range from 1% - 25%. I like a little more flavor because I have taste and scent issues due to breaking my nose a coupe times. Because of my inexperience, I don’t know if what i’m tasting will steep out, if I did something wrong or if maybe it’s just a flavor I don’t care for (vomit, it’s in there). I thought unicorn vomit would be a rainbow of fruity flavors, lol. My scales go down to 3 decimals. So the percentages should be correct. Maybe I’m just putting too much stress on it and should give it time to steep before drawing any conclusions. So I guess my q’s would be...
Anyone have experience with Nude Nicotine VG, PG &/or 100mg Nic?
Could it be one or all of my bases causing a little harshness?
Can too much flavor cause a bit of harshness?
Anything anyone can spot I might be doing wrong?
Also, I’m using a sterile clean work area, all tools and hardware are all as clean as possible and I’m wearing gloves. So theres zero chance of cross contamination etc. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance
Anyone have experience with Nude Nicotine VG, PG &/or 100mg Nic?
Could it be one or all of my bases causing a little harshness?
Can too much flavor cause a bit of harshness?
Anything anyone can spot I might be doing wrong?
Also, I’m using a sterile clean work area, all tools and hardware are all as clean as possible and I’m wearing gloves. So theres zero chance of cross contamination etc. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance
Boy howdy; aren't you a brave soul to start out with that for your first flavor!
It is not a flavor I have any experience with, so like you, I checked to see what ELR folks had to say. Based not only on the range of percentage preferences, but also the general descriptions; this is sounding like a "love it or hat it" flavor with very little "in between" reviews.
I have heard nothing but good comments about NN products (though again; I have no personal experience) so I am skeptical that those are at fault.
Yes, too much flavoring can cause all sorts of unpleasant results. Mixes can be harsh, artificial or "chemically" tasting, or the intended flavor can disappear all together.
15% is not totally out of line for Flavor West concentrates in general. Though, with all the ELR notes mentioning its potency, I personally would have started much lower.
All is not lost however. Let it age for a week; and then test vape it again. If it is still way off the mark you can try diluting small amounts of what you have already mixed. Using 3 parts of your original mix, plus 1 part unflavored mix (40PG/60VG 3mg/mL nic with NO flavor), will give you a 25% dilution (or 11.25% flavor). Give it a good shake and test vape it. If it is better, but still not right, mix a fresh batch diluted more. Maybe go to a 50% original flavor mix plus 50% unflavored mix, to arrive at a 7% flavor concentration. Shake. Test. Repeat. Keep diluting until you get the flavor you like... or decide the flavor is just not for you.
SMALL is the key here... you don't want lots of unvapeable juice. 2mL total sample size is ample to see if you are moving in the right direction. 1mL might even be enough. Small trial batches also slow down using up your brand new inventory.
Not from what you have said. You mentioned making a recipe of 15% flavoring, in a 40PG/60VG 3mg/mL base. You might also share the specific amounts (mg/mL) you actually combined to arrive at that result. That might show any variation between intent and execution.
Sounds like you are doing everything by "the book." I would give it a week or so, to settle down, and then try some diluting. There is no ethyl alcohol in that particular flavor so "breathing" is unlikely to be of any help in this case. I also see nothing (flavor profile; user comments) that would indicate this flavor requires extended aging. It may just be this concentrate is not for you.
I am not saying to give up on it right away, and certainly don't get discouraged, but don't be surprised either. I have over 300 different concentrates in my current flavor stash; but I doubt I would buy more than 75 of them again, if I had to start over.
Always keep in mind... DIY is a journey.
I would let it steep. I'm doubtful it's the nicotine. It may or may not need dilution if it's too strong (overflavored can taste harsh, and chemical like) but I'd give it some time to steep first before you do anything... If it remains problematic, IDJoel has given you some good advice for how to handle it. If it's any consolation I have "rescued" many an overflaovered juice, most recently a raspberry/cotton candy/forest fruit mix. It wasn't awful, just way too strong for me. Dilution heped it out quite a bit. Many flavors can be "rescued" but I wouldn't start that process without some steeping first.
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Boy howdy; aren't you a brave soul to start out with that for your first flavor!
It is not a flavor I have any experience with, so like you, I checked to see what ELR folks had to say. Based not only on the range of percentage preferences, but also the general descriptions; this is sounding like a "love it or hat it" flavor with very little "in between" reviews.
I have heard nothing but good comments about NN products (though again; I have no personal experience) so I am skeptical that those are at fault.
Yes, too much flavoring can cause all sorts of unpleasant results. Mixes can be harsh, artificial or "chemically" tasting, or the intended flavor can disappear all together.
15% is not totally out of line for Flavor West concentrates in general. Though, with all the ELR notes mentioning its potency, I personally would have started much lower.
All is not lost however. Let it age for a week; and then test vape it again. If it is still way off the mark you can try diluting small amounts of what you have already mixed. Using 3 parts of your original mix, plus 1 part unflavored mix (40PG/60VG 3mg/mL nic with NO flavor), will give you a 25% dilution (or 11.25% flavor). Give it a good shake and test vape it. If it is better, but still not right, mix a fresh batch diluted more. Maybe go to a 50% original flavor mix plus 50% unflavored mix, to arrive at a 7% flavor concentration. Shake. Test. Repeat. Keep diluting until you get the flavor you like... or decide the flavor is just not for you.
SMALL is the key here... you don't want lots of unvapeable juice. 2mL total sample size is ample to see if you are moving in the right direction. 1mL might even be enough. Small trial batches also slow down using up your brand new inventory.
Not from what you have said. You mentioned making a recipe of 15% flavoring, in a 40PG/60VG 3mg/mL base. You might also share the specific amounts (mg/mL) you actually combined to arrive at that result. That might show any variation between intent and execution.
Sounds like you are doing everything by "the book." I would give it a week or so, to settle down, and then try some diluting. There is no ethyl alcohol in that particular flavor so "breathing" is unlikely to be of any help in this case. I also see nothing (flavor profile; user comments) that would indicate this flavor requires extended aging. It may just be this concentrate is not for you.
I am not saying to give up on it right away, and certainly don't get discouraged, but don't be surprised either. I have over 300 different concentrates in my current flavor stash; but I doubt I would buy more than 75 of them again, if I had to start over.
Always keep in mind... DIY is a journey.
Here’s a shot of my exact weights. Idk that you could’ve been more thorough in your answer. You answered all my questions making me feel better about my beginner mixing abilities. I feel a bit more confident now to move forward. I didn’t want to keep wasting product if I’m doing something wrong. Thanks so much for helping out! I do have a Q though...
Why is that, because it’s potent or the mixed reviews?
Makes complete since. Think maybe I’m just too concerned with doing something wrong and need to enjoy it more. I’ll definitely apply both yours and IDJoels advice. Thanks!
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