...diy juice noob

[louie325]

well i never looked into diy juice
but i would like to start in all honesty i dont understand have the stuff i have read about diy
my question is can i buy a pre mixed pg/vg with nic from MBV and just add in my own flavoring from diferent vendors seems logical to me but anyone have any input ?
and if i can in fact do that anywhere else they sell pre mixed pg/vg and nic?

 

[Wow1420]

Yes, you can start with unflavored pre-mix. Just be aware that if you add X% flavoring, you reduce the final nicotine content by that much.

NudeNicotine is one vendor for pre-mixed unflavored.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

You can check, but almost all of these vendors sell starter kits or what you're looking for.

DIY SUPPLIERS
Bull City Vapor - Best Prices on DIY e-liquid Supplies (Capella, Flavour Art, Flavor West, Hangsen, Inawera, Flavor Apprentice)
Wizard Labs (Capella, LorAnn, Seedman, Flavor Apprentice, )
http://www.ecigexpress.com/ (Flavour Art, Flavor West, LorAnn, Flavors Express, Natures Flavors,
Signature (TFA), Jungle Flavors, Hangsen, Tasty Puff, Inawera, Capella)
DIY E-Cig Supplies & E-Cigarette Liquid | Make Your Own E-Liquid | RTS Vapes (LorAnn, Capella, Hangsen, Flavour Art, Flavor Apprentice, FLavor Jungle,
Flavor West, Inawera, RTS blends)
Electronic Cigarettes | E-Liquids - MyFreedomSmokes (LorAnn, Flavour Art, Flavor Apprentice, MFS house blends)
http://www.diyflavorshack.com/ (House blends/brands)
Perfumers Apprentice - The Flavor Apprentice - World of Flavors (TPA/TFA)
Capella Flavor Drops - Over 75+ Water Soluble Concentrated Flavorings (Capella)
Flavor West (Flavor West)
DIY E-liquid Supplies - Home (Capella, Flavor West, LorAnn, Flavor Apprentice,House Blends)
Wholesale Nicotine, Bulk e-Liquid, PG, VG and Supplies Heartlandvapes Wholesale (Capellas, Flavor West, LorAnn, Flavor Apprentice, House Blends)
E-liquid Mart (Capellas, Flavour Art)
DIY E Liquid Flavoring - E Cig eGo, E juice, Mods, Cartomizers, Liquid Nicotine, DIY Flavorings (vaping Zone VG flavor, Hangsen)
All Vaping Flavors (Flavorah)
[Concentrated Flavorings] - Nude Nicotine
Flavor Extracts - DIY e-Liquid Supplies (Madvapes)
DIY Flavors (Ellas, Flavor West, NF Organic, Flavor Apprentice, Capellas)
Product Categories Tasty Puff Flavor Drops | Tastypuff (Tasty Puff)
Vapers Tek (Molin Berry, Inwaera, German Flavors)

PG/VG
Essential Depot: Sodium Hydroxide, Lye, Potassium Hydroxide, Argan Oil, Shea Butter, Essential Oil, Fragrance Oil, Vegetable Oils, Food Grade
DudaDiesel - Biodiesel, Chemical & Solar Supplies, Alternative Energy Store
Glycerin | Bulk Apothecary

 

[louie325]

Yes, you can start with unflavored pre-mix. Just be aware that if you add X% flavoring, you reduce the final nicotine content by that much.

NudeNicotine is one vendor for pre-mixed unflavored.

he final nic level i want to achieve is 3mg

 

[EverPresentNoob]

Im a noob to DIY as well, but I just got a box in from wizard labs, 250ml PG, 250ml VG, 120ml of 12mg Nic base, and 4 different flavors. all told with shipping was around 40 bucks and I have enough to make 500ml of 50/50 mix. Compared to buying bottled juice at 20 bucks for 30ml at the local shop... Why not go DIY!

Steam engine has a good eliquid calculator, you just plug in what you got as far as nic base strength and what your target nic is and it does the rest.

 

[Blue Bomb]

You need a good calculator. Then you put in your base nic percentage, the nic you want to vape at, the ratio you want to vape at VG/PG and then the flavours you want in your mix in percentage then hit calculate and all the figures are there in front of you. We use Juice Me Up, All info here eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Good luck with it man and stick with it and you'll soon be knocking out good flavours

 

[louie325]

thanks for the places to look def gonna go diy route tired of spending money then not knowing if the juice is gonna be good or not

 

[louie325]

for max vg should i get the nic base 100% vg or 100%pg or 50/50?
and when buying flavors are the flavors also vg or pg based?

 

[EverPresentNoob]

well if you want MAX VG, why would you get PG based nic? isnt the point MAX VG? I bought PG based nic and flavorings. when i mix juices up right now I am finding them close to being 60PG/40VG. I normally like more VG... So next time I order Nic and flavoring I am going to try to get more that are VG based. As it is now my home brew juices are all to thin for what I really like. I can add more VG, but it really cuts the flavor out of them.

But as always, YMMV.

 

[dannyv45]

for max vg should i get the nic base 100% vg or 100%pg or 50/50?
and when buying flavors are the flavors also vg or pg based?

Get your NIC in VG. As far as flavorings in VG there hard to find most are in PG or alcohol. TFA sells a few in VG.

 

[louie325]

well if you want MAX VG, why would you get PG based nic? isnt the point MAX VG? I bought PG based nic and flavorings. when i mix juices up right now I am finding them close to being 60PG/40VG. I normally like more VG... So next time I order Nic and flavoring I am going to try to get more that are VG based. As it is now my home brew juices are all to thin for what I really like. I can add more VG, but it really cuts the flavor out of them.
i am a noober so but makes since lol

But as always, YMMV.

Get your NIC in VG. As far as flavorings in VG there hard to find most are in PG or alcohol. TFA sells a few in VG.

this is what i dont get since the majority of the flavors are pg based does that mean i have to add in more vg to eliminate the pg from the the final result ??

 

[Hoosier]

this is what i dont get since the majority of the flavors are pg based does that mean i have to add in more vg to eliminate the pg from the the final result ??

Adding more VG does not eliminate what is already there, just dilutes it.

If you do not want any PG, do not add any. Once it's in, it's in.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

I know that on wizard labs some of the flavors are available in VG. If you want only the G liquid, you are going to have to look around and search for the VG offered flavors. Or just accept that your final DIY juice is going to end up being about 90 10 VG /pg or 80/20 vg/pg or thereabout. My ratios may be off its just a guess and I've been awake for 26 hours at this point so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[dannyv45]

this is what i dont get since the majority of the flavors are pg based does that mean i have to add in more vg to eliminate the pg from the the final result ??

As log as you use PG based flavorings you'll never get a 100% VG vape. If you use 10% PG flavoring and 90% VG your mix will be 10%PG/90%VG. You can't eliminate PG once it's in the mix you can only dilute it. Alcohol or VG based flavoring is your best bet. Some are sensitive to alcohol based flavorings and vapes mixed with alcohol based flavorings need to sit 1 to 2 days with the cap off to evaporate the alcohol and get rid of that alcohol taste. "Super concentrates" (SC) flavorings such as what vapingzone and bullcityvapes sells is what you want these flavors are usually alcohol based. Also keep in mind that high VG concentrations almost always need to be diluted with Distilled water or saline to thin it. Otherwise you get poor wicking, dry hits and burnt wicks depending on the vaping hardware used.

Here are a few alcohol based links

DIY Super Concentrated Alcohol Base E-Cigarette Flavoring - E Cig eGo, E juice, Mods, Cartomizers, Liquid Nicotine, DIY Flavorings

I'm pretty sure these are also alcohol based but check with the vender to make sure

Super Concentrates

 

[louie325]

ohhhh ok now things make since
i dont mind it being 90/10 or 80/20 if need be
i was just confused and did not want to order the wrong thing but that'll work
been reading and reading i seem to have a better understanding thanks everyone

 

[dannyv45]

ohhhh ok now things make since
i dont mind it being 90/10 or 80/20 if need be
i was just confused and did not want to order the wrong thing but that'll work
been reading and reading i seem to have a better understanding thanks everyone

May I recommend some further reading.

My blogs will give insight into all aspects of DYI, from steeping to what supplies to have on hand to a basic walk through mixing your first E-juice.

E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs

Then read hoosier's blogs. These blogs concentrate on fine tuning your mix and give insight on additives.

E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs

Then read Boletus's blog's. These blogs concentrate on formulation of nicotine bases regarding proper calculations methods for figuring Nicotine concentration as well as safety.

E-Cigarette Forum - Boletus - Blogs

Then read Ginger's book "E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid". It is a book which I've contributed to that delivers an in depth easy to follow guide in the art of DYI.

E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid

I recommend viewing VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.

VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety

then read the stickies at the top of the page.

this will explain a lot of the how's and why's.