DIY Liquid fails

[Red_Bird]

Light and heat are not good at all.

A lot of misinformation you are being fed, I feel bad for you.

The thing to do is experiment on your own, believe nobody.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

I use the ultrasonic and never have to steep anything. But i like the mixing old/new juices method. Gonna try that next.

 

[DeeDee1234]

Light and heat are not good at all.

A lot of misinformation you are being fed, I feel bad for you.

The thing to do is experiment on your own, believe nobody.

You don't use any heat at all?

I don't feel like the vg gets completely combined without some heat. The vg trys to stay thicker and does not fully combine with the pg and flavors well unless, I heat it up a little at the very least and then shake it well

 

[Sl4ck3r]

Light and heat are not good at all.

A lot of misinformation you are being fed, I feel bad for you.

The thing to do is experiment on your own, believe nobody.

A chemical would tell how real things are; it's hard for me give credits to so many different and opposite opinions, being a new one. I hope you understand my reasons.

 

[Red_Bird]

Dude, to be totally honest.

I tried to help you is all.

But honestly? I could care less what somebody else does. I care what I do.

 

[Sl4ck3r]

Dude, to be totally honest.

I tried to help you is all.

But honestly? I could care less what somebody else does. I care what I do.

It should be good you focus even to other ones results; on thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eeping-times-ultrasonic-cleaner-part-iii.html a lot of people thanks bobalex about GUCE method. A lot of people who gets great result steeping through ultrasonic cleaner and JUST YOU state that it's pointless and dangerous. I appreciate your advices, but i have to keep in my mind multitude opinions of the others ones ("many" against "one").

 

[DeeDee1234]

It should be good you focus even to other ones results; on thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eeping-times-ultrasonic-cleaner-part-iii.html a lot of people thanks bobalex about GUCE method. A lot of people who gets great result steeping through ultrasonic cleaner and JUST YOU state that it's pointless and dangerous. I appreciate your advices, but i have to keep in my mind multitude opinions of the others ones ("many" against "one").

Views on steeping are far a wide, As I told you in the beginning. Some people believe one way and some other a different way. I have heard it all and have my ideas on the subject. Other people have thier ideas on the subject.

Try a tread on the best e juice and see how many different ideas you get.

Here is my best advise to you, read, research , read some more. experiment see what seems to work for you and form your own views on steeping.

 

[Caridwen]

One tell "NO", other "YES"....bring evidences please ...not personal opinions

That is all you can get on this topic, personal opinions. You aren't going to get evidence because there isn't any.

 

[Sl4ck3r]

That is all you can get on this topic, personal opinions. You aren't going to get evidence because there isn't any.

Chemical laws aren't personal opinions; if a procedure reflects or not some chemical law, that's no an opinion: if you comply with it you get good result, otherwise you don't.
Anyway, thank you all for your suggestions.

 

[Hoosier]

Yep, this was about as entertaining as I thought it would be...

Heavy Sigh

OK, back to the thread as it is.

 

[Caridwen]

Chemical laws aren't personal opinions; if a procedure reflects or not some chemical law, that's no an opinion: if you comply with it you get good result, otherwise you don't.
Anyway, thank you all for your suggestions.

Here's a post by a chemist.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-happens-when-juice-steeps.html#post7863247

I don't use an ultrasonic cleaner, so I can't say. Some people do and think it greatly improves their liquid. You appear to not be one of those people as you thought your liquid was better before you used the ultrasonic cleaner.

Baking is chemistry, yet everyone has different hints or ways to approach a recipe and they think their way enhances the recipe.

 

[Eeee]

Chemical laws aren't personal opinions; if a procedure reflects or not some chemical law, that's no an opinion: if you comply with it you get good result, otherwise you don't.
Anyway, thank you all for your suggestions.

I'd have to agree that "Chemical laws aren't personal opinions", but Cardiwen is still correct as there is no evidence out there apart from each DIYer's own trial and error and their personal opinion on their results.

It's funny how some people are so sure of one result but others are just as sure of the opposite.

My own opinion is that no 9mg juice would give me a TH i'd be happy with and that I personally would have to up the nic (and maybe PG content) to get a good TH. As for flavour, I've had some bad ones but I really doubt any amount of heat, vibration, cap off or shaking would have made them better. I'd try a different flavour, or try adding something else to improve the flavour you have.

I give all my 'attempts' a good week to see if they improve but I can only see much of the above advice as superstition

 

[Slots]

Maybe the big problem here is that everyone wants to start vaping their juice the day they make it !!!!
Doesn't anyone besides me have the foresight to stay ahead of themselves and make a few weeks worth before they will be needing it ???
Gee's ... it's such a simple solution .....
As you use them .. mix up some more, so they'll be ready to use down the road.
Yeah, it takes a while to build up your first "stock pile", but you gotta start somewhere.

 

[Sl4ck3r]

So Bobalex is telling nonsenses ? If he's telling nonsenses, all ones support him tell nonsenses.

There's a topic with a lot of good evidences by other users support GUCE method Bobalex expose. I wonder: all ones oppose GUCE method, have all tried it al least one time to check any result and/or improving in steeping time keeping flavour quality of an e-liquid ?

 

[Sl4ck3r]

Here's a post by a chemist.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-happens-when-juice-steeps.html#post7863247

I don't use an ultrasonic cleaner, so I can't say. Some people do and think it greatly improves their liquid. You appear to not be one of those people as you thought your liquid was better before you used the ultrasonic cleaner.

Baking is chemistry, yet everyone has different hints or ways to approach a recipe and they think their way enhances the recipe.

I'm one who is experimenting and it's likely i'm doing errors in all my procedures so it's not reliable to say "i'm one of those who does not getting good result by using ultrasonic cleaner method". I'm asking for a chemist opinion to bypass "individual perceptions and beliefs" and giving trust to what is a indisputable "guideline" based on chemical laws and procedures, to e-liquids related. That's what i'm searching for.

If many people get good steeping results even don't respecting some chemical guidelines, i don't care because one might consider good svaping the bleach thinking its procedure is a "effective" procedure. So, under this point of view, i'm agree with you about personal opinions. But i'm not interested to this stuff, so if someone hasn't reliable guidelines to make faster steeping activity, is good he keeps quite.

That's all. Thank you

 

[Caridwen]

The post I linked to was made by Kurt who is a chemist. I'd suggest you post in Ask The Vets if you're looking for is a chemists opinion. This is new members.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ask-veterans/