DIY liquid flavor problems.

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PeterKay

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Isn't the flavor50/50?

They should put it on the bottle. I always vape 50/50.

Well nothing i can do now, can i???
Majority of flavors are PG based. There are some that are VG based, but it will be clearly specified on the bottle. And you will know as they are ususally more expensive and harder to get.
 

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I see thanks!
No worries, I've done my mistakes as well when I first started mixing, the ones I remember: At first when adding PG-based nic shots to 70/30 shortfill, I was sure I was vaping 70/30. Then I realised 70/30 was the base, not destination ratio lol.
Second mistake: I bought 20mg nicotine shots in bulk, and then realised that I want to make juices that are 18mg nic. Which turned out to be impossible :D
 
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No worries, I've done my mistakes as well when I first started mixing, the ones I remember: At first when adding PG-based nic shots to 70/30 shortfill, I was sure I was vaping 70/30. Then I realised 70/30 was the base, not destination ratio lol.
Second mistake: I bought 20mg nicotine shots in bulk, and then realised that I want to make juices that are 18mg nic. Which turned out to be impossible :D

Yeah i always use 50/50 nic base. It's certain, it's on the bottle.
 
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Yes i always use a calculator.

Previously i used really concentrated aroma bottles.

Half a bottle from atmoslab (also Greek) used to be ok for a 200ml concoction.

No comparison. Thus, PG concentration was close to 50%...
Interesting. I never heard about them, might try in the future.

That's the thing with flavorings- some are potent, some are not. Initially I was mixing adding 20% flavoring but then I realised some flavors are too strong. Like a strawberry-cream concentrate I bought from UK-based manufacturer- 20% was unbearable, I now use it at 10% on its own or max 5% if I combine with other flavoring. Even at 3% with other flavorings added you can usually still feel it.
Or peanut butter concentrate from mixmaster, my recent mix was at 15% and it was impossible to vape it, soooo strong. Luckily I'm here and folks pointed it out to me.
 

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Yeah i always use 50/50 nic base. It's certain, it's on the bottle.
I mix my juices ranging from 6 up to 18mg nic, and juices ranging from 60PG/40VG up to 75VG/25PG, so I decided to go for higher concentration nic base (72mg in pure PG), a bit more effort as you need to add extra pure VG and PG but it allows me to achieve any nicotine concentration that I need.
 

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Interesting. I never heard about them, might try in the future.

That's the thing with flavorings- some are potent, some are not. Initially I was mixing adding 20% flavoring but then I realised some flavors are too strong. Like a strawberry-cream concentrate I bought from UK-based manufacturer- 20% was unbearable, I now use it at 10% on its own or max 5% if I combine with other flavoring. Even at 3% with other flavorings added you can usually still feel it.
Or peanut butter concentrate from mixmaster, my recent mix was at 15% and it was impossible to vape it, soooo strong. Luckily I'm here and folks pointed it out to me.
Sounds yummy!

I'm all about heavy aromas!!
 

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I mix my juices ranging from 6 up to 18mg nic, and juices ranging from 60PG/40VG up to 75VG/25PG, so I decided to go for higher concentration nic base (72mg in pure PG), a bit more effort as you need to add extra pure VG and PG but it allows me to achieve any nicotine concentration that I need.

I have to research more about vg/pg percentages and what combination is suitable for various styles of vaping.

I always tried to go 50/50 on either my dl and mtl tanks. Best of both worlds kinda thing...
 
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Yes i always use a calculator.

Previously i used really concentrated aroma bottles.

Half a bottle from atmoslab (also Greek) used to be ok for a 200ml concoction.

No comparison. Thus, PG concentration was close to 50%...
I have to research more about vg/pg percentages and what combination is suitable for various styles of vaping.

I always tried to go 50/50 on either my dl and mtl tanks. Best of both worlds kinda thing...
I'll make things abit more complicated for you. You could add distilled water to your mixes and achieve lower viscosity with your high VG mixes :) Also, adding distilled water to mixes really lowers the chances of getting dry mouth or sore throat
 

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There can be a huge difference in how strong flavor concentrates are (mostly depending on the brand but even then each flavor is different) Can range between 1 to 10 % for most popular brands but I have seen ones like you mentioned that can go up to 20%. When I get any new flavor, I do a SFT (single flavor test)... just a small 10 ml batch. It's a pain trying to taste test these (I used to use a single coil RDA and change the wick for each test but now have this "pod" device that has a flat "film" instead of a coil and comes with 50 small cotton squares so it's very easy to change the cotton for each test)
You would need either a scale or syringes to mix small 10 ml batches. Maybe take half of what you mixed, add another bottle of flavor (aroma as you say) and some extra VG (20-40 ml) and just save the other bottle of flavor to use later (like if it turned good just do the same thing again)
 
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