DIY liquid problem

[smallmam]

hello. I am new to forum. I have been reading threads and learning new things a lot.
but there is problem that I couldn't find answer from reading through forum for days.

I use PG100% 48mg nicotine, PG 100% base.
mostly make 16mg nicotine liquid I make.
I have used some FA flavor, flavor apprentice, LorAnns.
start with 10% flavor and go up if weak.
with some of flavor, I do taste flavor and feel nicotine but very little vapor. I can see vapor inside of atomizer but not much vapor come out with exhale.
flavor I remember that happened was
FA coffee espresso
flavor apprentice chai tea, cola, hazelnut
I thought about 100%PG might be the problem but with same base with different flavor, I can have decent flavor and vapor.
is there some flavors need trick or two to get vapors?

I'd appreciate if anyone can help me out. Thanks

 

[nerak]

If you are using a atomizer are you flooding the atty? If you do then you will not get much vapor. VG instead of PG will give more vapor. You might try adding some VG to your mix next time. I have not personally seen much difference with the different flavors and vapor production.

 

[swedishfish]

Just ordering juice in different pg/vg ratio's makes a difference. I imagine it's the same with DIY. For example, I like the menthol juice I vape in 70pg/30vg. I've order the same peach juice in 100%PG, 80/20, 70/30 and 60/40. For that particular juice to me the 60/40 is best.

I can't help you a lot with DIY since I'm new at it too- and not very good. But you definitely get more vapor with VG added.

 

[smallmam]

Thanks for the reply. I thought about atty prob too. but opened up new atty 901LR and still same...

 

[smallmam]

Thanks swedishfish
Have you noticed difference with vapor production when PG/VG ratio is changed?

 

[permafrying]

deffinetaly need some vg in it, i like 70/30 cuz i still get a good throat hit and allot more vapor then 100% pg

 

[swedishfish]

Do you have any VG? You can pick up a small bottle at Walmart and try it.

 

[smallmam]

Thanks permafrying
I guess I have been too extreme with PG/VG ratio. I was only making 100% PG or 100% VG.
I'd try put some VG and see how that changes.

 

[NicLiq]

I do DIY with FlavourArt coffee expresso and I have to go 50/50 with it. I buy my nic base at Box Elder Chemical Supply and I use USP Humco glycerin from Walmart ($2.99 for 177 ml).

 

[smallmam]

wow you guys are great!
I added bit of VG to these problem liquid and... I can see vapor!
I just feel so stupid.
Thank you all for your help
I made liquid for friends and some of them were saying same thing and I was wondering what went wrong.
now I can fix them!

 

[smallmam]

thanks Nicliq!
FA coffee espresso isn't great? I love their flavors. so far all flavors I got from them are wonderful.
first coffee flavor I got was LorAnns coffee but it was too dark color and I couldn't have enough guts to vape it...

 

[emus]

Some flavors mess w/ vapor production.

PG:VG ratio aprox 70:30 often produces big clouds.

Sometimes bumping up VG improves vapor.

Some flavors are difficult to work with; like dark ones. Some leave solid deposits on the wick which greatly reduces atty performance. When working w/ dark juice I clean atty frequently. When vaping unflavored and some clear flavors I can go weeks between cleanings. I only use unflavored or clear flavors in my best attys and carts.

 

[swedishfish]

Thanks swedishfish
Have you noticed difference with vapor production when PG/VG ratio is changed?

Definitely!

 

[NicLiq]

thanks Nicliq!
FA coffee espresso isn't great? I love their flavors. so far all flavors I got from them are wonderful.
first coffee flavor I got was LorAnns coffee but it was too dark color and I couldn't have enough guts to vape it...

Yes, I love it. I also mix it with cocoa from FlavourArt (less than 1% coffee expresso and 5% cocoa). Cappuccino from Capella is also very good - you can use it by itself, but I add one drop of coffee expresso to a 15 ml bottle.

It is weird how some flavors seem to need more VG, especially coffee since so little flavoring is needed.

 

[smallmam]

Thanks emus

Some flavors mess w/ vapor production.

I guess I found out that hard way. but it was good experience.
I was making other flavors with 100% PG and some of them didn't have vapor problem so I never thought of PG/VG ratio was the key.

 

[smallmam]

Definitely!

now I can tell too!

 

[smallmam]

Yes, I love it. I also mix it with cocoa from FlavourArt (less than 1% coffee expresso and 5% cocoa). Cappuccino from Capella is also very good - you can use it by itself, but I add one drop of coffee expresso to a 15 ml bottle.

It is weird how some flavors seem to need more VG, especially coffee since so little flavoring is needed.

Thanks for the info!
there is a lot more to learn for me