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DIY Nic Salts for Sub-Ohm Vaping

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  1. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I am wondering how many DIYers use nic salts in juice at 3mg of nicotine. I bought a 60ml bottle out of curiosity. I have a freezer shelf full of enough freebase nic to last me for 5 years. :) I just wanted to try nic salts so I would know what the fuss is about. At 3mg, I can't really tell much difference. I am interested in the experiences of other DIYers. Are nic salts wasted in sub-ohm vaping at 3mgs? Opinions are appreciated.
     
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  2. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    No opinions at all? So far, I don't see a difference so am thinking that nic salts are best for higher nicotine levels.
     
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  3. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
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    I use nic salts at 3 mg. I like it better. There really wasn't much throat hit with freebase nic but there is not with the salt. Seems to satisfy a little better too. But could just be expectation there.
     
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  4. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
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    Should have mentioned that I did also try it at 6mg and still no TH. But chain vaping 6 mg soon gave me a headache so cut it back to 3 mg.
     
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  5. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks for the reply. I am enjoying the juice I made at 3mgs with the nic salts but there isn't enough of a difference for me to ignore my freezer shelf full of freebase nic to switch over. I am curious about the experiences of others. I make my son's juice at 6mgs and need to mix him up a batch so will try the nic salts and see if there is a difference at 6mgs.
     
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  6. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
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    I certainly wouldn't discard freebase nic to use salt at 3mg either. I used up my freebase nic before switching to nic salt.
     
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  7. stols001

    stols001 Moved On ECF Veteran

    May 30, 2017
    I use nic salts but at a much higher percentage (18%). I chose them for the lack of throat hit, which is what I wanted. With that said, I'm not sure you are going to notice huge, remarkable differences at 3 m.g. They may be slightly more bioavailable more quickly, but I think their main function is being able to go very high in nicotine (like the 50 mg/ml in Juul pods) without harshness, and at that level they'd probably give satiation/nic overload rather quickly if over vaped, although that's kind of hard to do with a Juul.

    I don't think there's anything really magical about them at sub0hm percentages, but some folks just seem to prefer them, and I am one of them.

    Anna
     
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  8. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
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    @stols001 I think they do absorb faster or at least seem to for me. A little more satisfying. Then again this could just be expectation. Seems to be a slight difference though.
     
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  9. stols001

    stols001 Moved On ECF Veteran

    May 30, 2017
    I'd probably agree. The difference is so slight for me, even at 18%, I kind of wonder if it's real. I'd imagine it just becomes more and more noticeable at higher percentages, and I do have a couple mods I am considering lowering the nic in, just because they're quite airy. They aren't "the next best thing to a cigarette" or anything as far as head rushes or anything else. Maybe at 50 mg/ml they are but I don't think I will be mixing THAT.

    Anna
     
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  10. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    At 3mg Pam I doubt the salts are noticeably smoother. Your son may pick it up at 6mg, I know I do at 8-9mg.
     
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  11. classwife

    classwife Admin Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Moved to DIY E-Liquid from General E-Liquid Discussion
     
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  12. Sloth Tonight

    Sloth Tonight CF Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    After vaping nic salts at 3mg for a few months I tried to use freebase at 3mg and hacked up a lung. The difference is noticeable as hell to me, but it wasn't initially - took getting used to the salts and going back to freebase to feel a difference. Literally can't vape freebase anymore, it makes me cough.
     
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  13. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    I have only used salts with diy and have no intentions of using freebase. I'll keep in mind your experience with it when posting.
     
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  14. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks to you all. Experience is the best teacher and I know there are many experiences to be shared among the members here. Thanks so much!
     
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  15. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Totally agree. At 6mg I noticed it right away as I normally use 3mg freebase. Had to cut it back to 3mg. I am able to tolerate it there but don't have a lot of noticeable difference. Who knows, it may help to preserve the eliquid a little longer than usual....

    :)
     
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  16. Sloth Tonight

    Sloth Tonight CF Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Your avatar is cool as hell.
     
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  17. dansus

    dansus Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2016
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    Problem with vaping at 3mg in a DL device is salts de-protonate when heated and re-protonate as it cools further down stream in the lungs. Given that freebase is readily absorbed in the mouth and upper airway, sucking it in at rapid rate before its had a chance to absorb may be counter productive, and you might be better off using freebase at 3mg in a DL device so the alveoli can suck it up like a fat kid in a cake shop.
     
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  18. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I am using freebase nic in my juice and nic salts in my son's 6mg juice. Everyone is happy. :)
     
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  19. Coyote628

    Coyote628 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2017
    I use nic salts at 6 to 6.5 mg. at subohm. And i do the cloud thing as well. Sometimes i get big nicotine rushes, sometimes i dont. Sometimes i even black out. Ha ha just kidding, i dont black out. Sounded good tho. But seriously, its pretty smooth, i feel the nicotine faster, quite nice in fact. Definitely helps slow down chain vaping habit too. Who in their right mind wants to black out while driving anyway.
     
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