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well then...... lol by the way what are w/h
W/h is Watt hours. Its what they use to describe the 3S lipo battery life, basically its a measurement of energy consumed.

Here is a definition "The watt-hour (symbolized Wh) is a unit of energy equivalent to one watt (1 W) of power expended for one hour (1 h) of time."
 

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man after watching the pbusardo DNA 200 review part three.

I am definitely getting the wismec reuleaux. it looks like I would like the feel. and hey triple 18650s, here comes 33,3 wh with those HG2s.
11.1 Wh (3,000 * 3.7/1000) probably the run time of a 950 mAh LiPo, maybe only a 900 mAh.
 

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Honestly look at mike vapes's look at it.

it's pretty much the same size as most decent sized lipo mods. it's slightly thicker but the shape is perfect to fit in the hand.

It pretty much in my opinion kills lipo batteries.

-Triple 18650s offer a huge amount of battery capacity.
-the dna 200 board doesn't pull more than 23 amps at max so it's perfectly safe at max power.
-easy to swap out batteries so you arent tethered at a USB charger.
-it's NOT THAT BIG compared to the rest. the only thing is has against it is that it is thicker than most but in width its definitely not that big. and it is stupidly short compared to alot of the other DNA 200 mods out there.
-The shape looks to destroy the thickness negative because it's made to fit in the hand great. a more obvious shape to hold than a rectangle/square box.

compare it to stuff like the rDNA 200. yes it is smaller and all of that but think about it. with HG2s the battery capacity is essentially triple that of the 900mah lipo in a vaporshark. By the time that you have depleted the batteries in this ROLO(that is my name for it now), you would of had to recharge your vaporshark 3 times. Not adding charging time and being stuck to a portable 2 amp battery or wall charger.

man get a quality 4-bay charger or something that can charge 18650s at 1 amp and your batteries will pretty much be charged by the time you deplete the rolo.

It's pretty damn great.

Honestly the only thing that could in my opinion compete is something like the hotcig because it has the option to replace the battery easily. but then again. those are only 900mah batteries and they cost 40+ bucks a pop. so yo would spend 80+ bucks on replacement batteries for it. while I have found LG HG2's at 40 bucks for a 6 pack.

Now for people that really really want a small package mod then a rDNA200 is perfect. its still pretty much the smallest. but the 900mah lipo kills it for me.

as seen in this picture. it is DEFINITELY not that much bigger.
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It was mentioned somewhere that spring tension of FDV 510s could be a problem w/ DNA 200

That don't even make sense the FDV 510 it one of the best out there and I use them every day. In all my mods basically you have 2 choices the varitube or the FDV both work great and both will work just great on this mod or any other mod that comes along as far as going into your own design. Now any and all 510 out there may or may now work with existing mod like try to do a upgrades but that has nothing to do with the connector that just that they use crappy proprietary design in whatever mod you may have at the time and your trying to upgrade it the chinese make all kind of junk 510 connectors and a few decent ones as well that are all oem and many times you can't use nothing but what they put in because of some wacky design they came up with that they can make for a 1.50 and mass produce and most time you're lucky if they work at all My first Vapor Flask was like that they used a proprietary 510 and it was poorly made and the center pushed down and the positive atty power shorted against the the to of the battery and cooked the chip. I thought I would then just upgrade that VF to having a real DNA 40 well All I can say is one day that whole mod got tossed into the garbage. No matter what 510 I tried nothing would fit for crap. But anything you build should not have any trouble with the 2 510 I mention. And that has nothing to do with the chip you use. Or even no chip say you do a mosfet build for a Mech mod those 2 510 will work with every setup out there that is custom built but the type of 510 you use and the chip you use has nothing to do with each other it has to do with the enclosure u use not the chip. So really it just come down to using a high quality 510 connector and you're all good
 

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That don't even make sense the FDV 510 it one of the best out there and I use them every day. In all my mods basically you have 2 choices the varitube or the FDV both work great and both will work just great on this mod or any other mod that comes along as far as going into your own design. Now any and all 510 out there may or may now work with existing mod like try to do a upgrades but that has nothing to do with the connector that just that they use crappy proprietary design in whatever mod you may have at the time and your trying to upgrade it the chinese make all kind of junk 510 connectors and a few decent ones as well that are all oem and many times you can't use nothing but what they put in because of some wacky design they came up with that they can make for a 1.50 and mass produce and most time you're lucky if they work at all My first Vapor Flask was like that they used a proprietary 510 and it was poorly made and the center pushed down and the positive atty power shorted against the the to of the battery and cooked the chip. I thought I would then just upgrade that VF to having a real DNA 40 well All I can say is one day that whole mod got tossed into the garbage. No matter what 510 I tried nothing would fit for crap. But anything you build should not have any trouble with the 2 510 I mention. And that has nothing to do with the chip you use. Or even no chip say you do a mosfet build for a Mech mod those 2 510 will work with every setup out there that is custom built but the type of 510 you use and the chip you use has nothing to do with each other it has to do with the enclosure u use not the chip. So really it just come down to using a high quality 510 connector and you're all good
That comment was months and well over 100 pages ago after one of the Beta Testers said the lack of spring tension on a FDV was not ideal on a dna200. We were all guessing then.
 
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That comment was months and well over 100 pages ago after one of the Beta Testers said the lack of spring tension on a FDV was not ideal on a dna200. We were all guessing then.
Good guess as it is not the best but there aren't that many choices either.
 

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why?!?!? I just cannot see the point of a 200W mod..Im sorry...also, looks like it will take a lower resistance compared to DNA40...0.08 on the screen!

If it can regulate to 200W, why call it the DNA70?? More to this than meets the eye methinks!

Well here it is in one quick deal there are all kinds a vapers out there Folk the never vap more than 7 watts on a ego style battery to folks that want to totally sick 150 watts to compete at cloud chaser events so how many watts a device is has no bearing as long as it work well across its rated range. It kinda like driving a old muscle car that has 700 horsepower, I mean really who need 700 horse to pick the kids up from school but on the weekend you like to go to the track and do some bracket racing for fun and bragging rights and seeing this 700 horse say 69 chevelle but it looks cool ya it does 160 MPH but it's not for everyone some folk would buy a car like that just to hang out in a parking out to show it off, others would take it to the track.
Now the Vaping world is a bit crazy today, for a good many years a PVD that had more than 20 watts was few and far between then here it getting like the PC.like the PC I am writing this post on that water cooled, overclocked to the max, massive video cards 3 of them in SLI all this speed and power and I built it and I am very proud of it but truthfully all I play on it is a game that 10 year old and most new laptops could run LOTRO is the game but you see I made it the Pc that is .

Evolv don't really make mods they make chips that all folks, but back to the computer thing for the longest time you could buy a pc that was top of the line and by time you open box and set it up they released something that is bigger better faster,now in the vaping world is in the same stage now.

Now there is a watt race in a way going on and a feature race and a safety race going in the PVD world. There striving every day to make the PVD more powerful safer and easier to use
But most of the companys out they play this little game they did on the PC every month there are all new PVD's coming out with more watts more safety features and more features as well and size and shape too. So I think most folks are looking at this wrong, so it a 200 watt device big deal it turn down to 7 watts so turn it down, if that what you like, others say I don't need Temp control, I like my Kanthal builds so fine use kanthal on it, same with titanium I don't need TI wire I am fine with that NI wire. Well there you go use nickel in it. Some say I never use 200 watts fine, but maybe you like that cool software that comes with it. Now going to Lipo pack best thing they ever did, You want to use a set of Sony VTC5 and it cost you 30 bucks for a set but you need at least 4 to rotate out even if it has a USB charger port. You're on the way out the door and u see you battery almost dead, so it swap batteries. Now Lipo can be fast charged in about 15 to 20 at least the one I used in my RC car so as long a you got 15 minutes pop it on your charger for real lipo pack like the ones used for RC cars this chargers are so far better than any of the charger we use on out ecig batts they have the ability to rejuvenate and maintain your batteries so you cells should last way longer than batteries we have been using and having a battery that is just 20C can give 40c for 10 seconds and they are made to do this repeatedly it has no effect to life of the Lipo they were made to do so for many a 10 or 15 amp pack is all you need and it will give a boost to 30 amps 10 sec long, so for many that all they will ever need and you're talking about a 12.95$ Nano tech Lipo to 75 to 100 watt devices so this is good stuff and the DNA has the built in balance charging so each cell is monitored during charge this is good stuff again.
Now here way 200 watts Its so you don't get ripped off like all the other companies do SMY say first its the smy tc 40 then it's the smy tc 50 then tc70 so about every month they give you about 10 watts and say hay look we have 10 more watts this month and the next and the next till a year later there at 200 watts and sold you 10 or 20 devices and each one that has some issue that they have to fix along the way.
Look folks the cost of this chip went up about 15 bucks from your beloved DNA 40 and I have only scratched the surface of home much more you got for your money right now this is the best chip money can buy hands down.
Take the YiHi SX350J When it came out out there was like 1 company selling the thing in its crippled state and to get full funktion you had to add this ugly tube on the bottom and they had the nerve to charge 200$ for that steaming pile of crap, ya it a nice chip but it should have never been released without the dual batteries in series so it was fully funktional Na release at half potential and get charged 200 bucks for anyone that bought that SX350J mini had way to much money to burn and was not to smart. I mean really to pay 200$ for something that could never look good and have all its features and then the mod reviewers sat around just lying to everyone telling how great it was.
Now the chip itself is a joke right you have to test it when you first get it to see that it fires you hit that with 1 drop of solder warranty over there customer support was crap and they did not back the product really a chinese chip please spare me all they know how to do there is copy stuff clone it they don't make anything unless they can steal the design they finally make something themselves and since they know how they are they cover the component with some black gunk to keep it build a secret and make it so you can remove the switches to relocate same with the charge port as a moder you do nothing with that chip that does not void the warranty.

Now I deal with Steve over at Evolv and I have sent in so many chips because the screen tore off they fix that for 10 bucks and ship it back for free. I Open a ticket and have a response by the next day Print my RMA form send it off to Ashtabula OH and it always been back in less than a week screen replaces or defective chips replaced. He just did 2 chips for me replaced the screen and replaced the other because I got a bad charger port and it cooked the chip. He sent me 2 brand new chips and did no charge even for the one I said I tore the screen off.
The best part as I never even had to send him a receipt that is a company that stands behind what they make you don't get service from and Chinese companies. I buy and build a lot of Mods I like to collect mods and any kind of vape gear . I don't care what store I buy from over there their service stinks the quality control is awful out of the last 5 mods I bought from the chinese only 1 did not fail in less than 30 days. Some I even had to send back to China. Ya right the US Post can't track anything going to China once it leaves customs unless you send it some international express that cost about 40 bucks if you want tracking to the door from Focalecig I bought my wife some clone of a PVD called the tetris, it was originally made by the same folks that make the Kayfun but it was a clone by Limwell, what else would be but a clone right. First one I got died in a day I got it from the USA warehouse, so sent that one back to someplace here. Soon as the got it they sent a new one it too died 30 days later this time I Had to send it to china phuu, what a joke the lady at the post sent it some kind a priority mail that afterward I found out could only be tracked as far as custom. Anyway it was never picked up from them at the post office I wrote to them so many times finally I told them if they wanted anything ship to China it 40 bucks that most of them just have you make a video showing something is FUBAR and they send you new one without having to send it back. Well a short time after 3 month they gave me store credit for the Limwell clone tetris A few weeks later the tetris bounced back in mail after it was never picked up at the post office there.
Now that how they do it there
I bought a SMY TC 60 from them a while and it would not detect the ohms on any atty again they wanted me to send it back to China the cheapest way with tracking. So this time I went and got a estimate from the post office first and wrote them and told them if they want this one back it was going to cost them like 42 bucks and they found a SMY repair center so I have to settle for a repaired 1 day at least it was here in the states

So when you looking at the new DNA 200 remember it the best made chip and it's made in the US back someone named Steve, not chong wong . Yes it a 200 watt chip who cares its a 20 watt chip if that what you set it for and now firmware upgradeable,
A killer software package service to be matched by none. all the safety features that we ever knew about and some we did not. I much improved power supply system by going lipo! Plus if you want to use that outdated Sony VTC 5 and 15 bucks a pop and you need at least 4 to get a whole 30 amps at 7.4 volt or 8.4 at full charge or find a housing to stuff 3 sony VTC 5 you still only get 2600MaH 11.1 or 12.6 full charged Or you can use a nano tech 11.1 Lipo with up 75 amps constant and 120 amps surge with a surge of 10 seconds not 3 like regular batteries and up to 6000 Mah Plus having wade thru the tons of crappy knock off batteries with fake labels and fake stats and leave all that dumb stuff behind You and u can go here http://www.volcanoecigs.com/lavabox-dna-200-box-mod.html and buy a nice best in the business USA made AND sold by A nice USA company where you American brother and sisters work for a living Or you can go get you a half a mod with a nice ugly add on tube to get the rest of the featurs that are missing http://www.varitube.com/SXmini-Box-Mod--S-Class_p_171.html Then tell me about how youn dont want to buy this chip the DNA 200 bang for the buck tech that is way past the YIHI because they have not found anything else to steal from us yet or clone it yet I mean the chip is only 80 bucks that only 15$ more than the dna 40 well that not really true now that this new DNA 200 is out you find all the DNA 40's you want for 30 to 35 bucks easy at least that was what I paid for my 5 DNA 40s that I bought already 2 months ago

So All I am saying before you make a statement that is totally absurd learn a bit about the product and really look at all you get for that 15$ more and like 5$ more then that YiHi Sx350J that already months old and still no one has bothered to put in a good enclosure so you can unlock its full potential and if your a builder then you have find the right inclosure your self fopr that one I say check out boxers Site on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Boxer-358084521037587/ he has some of the best 3d prints oiout there for all the YiHi chips the DNA 40 and the DNA2000 that way you can make a informed desision but the DNA 200 has lots of choices already that the YIHI stilll don't there is 10 time the manufactures makeing full feated ready to vape stuff out there with the YIHi if you really want to have anything decent you have to biuld it your self and that means no warrety if youu build it yourself and I am not that thrilled over 3d printed stuff I like CNC machined stuff much better paying upto 200 for a encloser made out of plastic and poor qaulity platic at that most of it so rough you have to sand it in 3 steps 220 then 320 and then 420 and use plastic buffing compund in course then fine since all that stuff is dyed you will the have to re dye it. I use Vinyl dye works great and if you can use shoe polish you can apply vinyl dye.

So for all you DNA 200 Bashers I say do your reading and build some mods before you jump in bash on something you know less than nothing about the DNA 200 dominates the entire market. You can make nice mod out of a lot a chips but if you want the most advanced chip with the best power source and cool software for programming and right now Every one of the 3d Print guys are in full swing Have not seen any good CNC boxes but there are some nice hand painted boxes on ebay a guy in Buffalo is making that might be adaptable eo use for the DNA 200 and he has some hammond sizes boxes that are CNC machined they cost just a bit more but they are worth it I just used one of his boxes for a DNA 40 small screen and the paint is out of this work he uses HOK that's House Of Kolor If you chart with him on the phone he can change some of the colors he uses if you ask and charge extra for it http://www.ebay.com/itm/171813544272?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT there is a link to 1 of his actions
 
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