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I realize that, but the point is why is Evolv holding back certain facts?

It seems like they're piece-mealing facts in order to manipulate crowd response.
BECAUSE IT IS NOT OFFICIALLY REALEASED!

Stop acting like an entitled brat. When it's released, you'll have all the info you want.
 

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Now we're getting down to some good old fashioned name calling.
Technically I didn't call anyone a name. Just that he was acting like one.

I do like these discussions but there are far too many uneducated guesses and conjectures that are baseless and thrown around as facts.
 
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Shek.... some of the questions can be answered both here and in Mike's thread....you might just post them there also.. busy day around my place this afternoon but I'll try to do what I can later....he may have time for a more prompt response..
I'm clueless on Mike's thread. Can someone aim me?
 

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Shek.... some of the questions can be answered both here and in Mike's thread....you might just post them there also.. busy day around my place this afternoon but I'll try to do what I can later....he may have time for a more prompt response..

Mike's thread isn't a discussion thread IMO, his has been opened for another purpose.

I just don't understand why you guys have a gag-order on certain facts about it's functions since much of it has been disclosed....know what I mean?

And there's more betas in here than just you retird...but thanks for your help. :)
 

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Yep, and every big car company has (at least) one in their lineup.

Before the DNA40 was released, people's main complaint with the DNA20/30 was a lack of reverse battery protection and step-down. The 40 gave them both, plus temperature limiting. Then they complained that the 40 wasn't flexible enough in supporting other wire types, and it wasn't up to snuff with the power output of Chinese boards. Addressing just one or the other wouldn't have been sufficient for a next generation product.

Agreed, but the big disappointment is that they really have only addressed one - for most people. It's got 200W, but it's still only got on-board Ni200 support. In my view that's a big miss.

It does do other wires, and in the most sophisticated way yet - not just a simple TCR, but defining your own response curve. That's awesome, for .. I dunno, 5-10% of users? Maybe 20% if we factor in people who go to forums and/or YouTube and are able to download CSV files prepared by others (not that 20% of users will, but that they could.)

But this is not Other Wires For The Masses. Some 15% of users won't even be able to run the software (Mac instead of PC, or not even using a computer at all - iPad/phone exclusive user etc). A large proportion will not feel comfortable with using the software, perhaps as much as 50%.

In my view they've handled Other Wires the wrong way around. The curve adjustment via software should have been a v1.1 feature, and 1.0 should have been a simple on-mod selection between "Ni200" (pre-programmed curve) and "Other - Enter TCR" where a user can put 350 for Titanium, 105 for Stainless, etc. With a note in the manual giving some suggestions for defaults, like Dicodes have. Not that they couldn't have done that at the same time as curve, in v1.0 - but if it had to be one or the other, on-mod simple TCR is much preferable to external-software sophisticated curves.

I expect (hope) that that will come in a future update, but it's a big shame it wasn't in v1.0. It means that Evolv are still lagging behind other makers in support and popularising of better wires for TC. Arguably it's currently Joyetech holding that lead, because although they added support for only one wire, Titanium, they made it as simple as possible to use with its own preset. That's the mod that's bringing Titanium to the masses.
 

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You're not gonna be able to find it druckle, you have to be a verified member to see it.

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You're not gonna be able to find it druckle, you have to be a verified member to see it.

There's an area of ECF that is hidden from the general populous and also from Google searches (or other search engines). This area can only be seen by verified members.

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Yeah, I've never been interested in buying/selling/trading vape gear so I never investigated.
Ah well...
 

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What point does it serve to piece-meal facts?
Because the answers to many of the questions being asked are not "fact" yet.

Part of the whole "beta process" typically means that things evolve (no pun intended) prior to release. Bugs are found and resolved, the product gets tested under widely varying conditions, feedback is gathered and things get changed in response to feedback, etc.. I cant speak for the others, but I know that I have only spoken about the things that were pretty much written in stone.

Some in this crowd/thread are highly volatile and critical, lords knows I dont want to take the credibility hit because I spoke of something that got changed prior to release. It is my goal to inform folks about what facts I feel are certain, it is not my goal to give the public a view into the trials and tribulations within the beta process itself.
 

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If a beta blows the release, why not just disclose everything all up front?

What point does it serve to piece-meal facts?

Fine if you want to keep the release date undisclosed, by why hide facts about the device itself?

Why not just come out and say, "Okay...this is it, this is what it does, this is what it'll do."

Adding in, "This is where we're at in beta, these are the known results so far.." etc. Answering questions immediately without betas having to bite their tongue.

And then schmidt-can the betas that leaked the release.

Everyone knows this will be cloned in China. Why disclose all of the details so it can be cloned before it hits the market? At least make the Chinese guy buy one to clone it.

After watching that video, I'm not sure I want a 200 watt DNA device, but I'm definitely thinking I want a 70w one. This may just be a strategy to deliver what the Chinese can't anticipate. Release better products, not just better specs.
 
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