DNA 200 Watt

[Darkly spectr]

it takes 3x18650s? are they in a caddy? how big is it compared to a lipo box? like twice the size? finally, who has one online? I was figuring that is the one but no shop here has one that I know of. so will have to order sight unseen. sorry for so many questions I just need to be really sure what I am getting. on that note can you see inside that the internal workmanship is good? is that made in france by chance? if so it probably is very high quality. thanks

edit: watched fagans review. he looks like a much younger version of me lol. although I think my tats are much nicer imo. anyways I look at the thing plus he said the frame is not strong. that is most likely because there is not much metal there with all those batteries displacing it. or it would be huge. it is much bigger than a lipo box as it stands frm what I can see. all those batteries take plenty to charge too. chargers cannot charge 3 at 1 amp afaik. just not sure. it just does not look like anyone is sinking real money/quality into these. I am not sure if there is accustom one/s. also a 1350mah lipo is pretty much equal to those three 18650's in mah. just can't use it until it is charged. well you can, pass through but you are tethered then. I also don't like the piece over the face of it. it looks like that is probably very thin metal. I need some peoples longer experiences with this one first. the bottom line is all of these seem to be fragile in one area or another. I am tired of lousy usb ports though. which is obviously not a problem on wismec. how come they can make phones fine. it just seems like none of the production options are perfect. oh well. I will just use them until the break I guess. the board unlike Fagan I think is the attraction here. how they put it together is another matter entirely.

@nic_fix

I don't know what you mean by caddy but they do click into place.

it is alot smaller than the lipo boxes I have seen. something like a vaporshark is slightly smaller but it is smaller than a vtbox and such.

you would expect it to be ALOT bigger because of the triple 18650 but in length and width it is smaller than a double 18650 mod. it IS thicker but the shape makes it more comfortable to hold in the hand than any rectangle mod.

the only "negative" is the weight but honestly at this point I don't even notice the weight.

and honestly. after more than a week I haven't noticed any bending or whatever he talks about.

the face plate seems to be the same thickness as the rest of the main body.

The efest blu6 can charge 4 batteries at 1 amp at the same time. it can charge 2 batteries at 2 amps. I am sure there are other battery chargers that can do that. the efest luc V4 does the same thing without the fancy bluetooth and only have 4 batteries.

also don't forget that even IF you only have a 3 or 4 bay that charges at .5 amps it will still be faster than the USB. since the USB chargest at 1 amp TOTAL. so 1 amp divided by 3 take some loss from the USB and connectors and you are probably looking at about .25ish per battery/lipo cell. half the speed of a dedicated charger.

and no. a 1350 mah lipo isn't better than 18650s. definitely not with 25rs,30Q or HG2. don't look at mah but wattage hours.

1350 mah lipo = 15 Wh
3000 mah triple 18650 = 33wh.

more than DOUBLE the battery life of the 1350 lipo. even with the 18650 having some more sag the lipo will never be able to even beat half the life time.

the only thing lipos have over 18650s is amp ratings. those things can take the amps but since the board only takes 23 amps out of the battery at MAX you don't really need a 50 amp lipo.

 

[nic_fix]

okay, I want that! somewhere to get it online? your pics do it justice.

the effusion is a dud. well the battery is. stores policy all sales final. my mistake. again. I guess I just need to have like 20 of these things so hopefully one works on any given day. this in regard to retird's question. btw, is that in regard to borat lol.

no seriously. 30 years ago I could have built something that would be off the chain. not touting my own horn but back in the day I was real good with this stuff. not any more. now I can barely type with one finger. oh well.

 

[2legsshrt]

I'd wait if I were you 2legs. Here's a review of the Reuleaux, he talks about some things to seriously consider prior to purchasing a DNA200.

19:15 into the video

Yeah I've pretty much talked myself out of a DNA200, I'm really happy with my SX's. I also think I'm going to stick to the Ti wire without dryburning it and not using the NiFe with the dry burning till a little more is known about it. I think the Ti is really pretty safe just wrapping a spaced coil and cleaning it with hot water and a brush. I'm still using a coil that has about 5 weeks on it with one cleaning. It's working great.

 

[2legsshrt]

okay, I want that! somewhere to get it online? your pics do it justice.

the effusion is a dud. well the battery is. stores policy all sales final. my mistake. again. I guess I just need to have like 20 of these things so hopefully one works on any given day. this in regard to retird's question. btw, is that in regard to borat lol.

no seriously. 30 years ago I could have built something that would be off the chain. not touting my own horn but back in the day I was real good with this stuff. not any more. now I can barely type with one finger. oh well.

MVS had them in stock a day or so ago. Just checked they are out now.

 

[tehdarkaura]

okay, I want that! somewhere to get it online? your pics do it justice.

the effusion is a dud. well the battery is. stores policy all sales final. my mistake. again. I guess I just need to have like 20 of these things so hopefully one works on any given day. this in regard to retird's question. btw, is that in regard to borat lol.

no seriously. 30 years ago I could have built something that would be off the chain. not touting my own horn but back in the day I was real good with this stuff. not any more. now I can barely type with one finger. oh well.

Have you tried contacting lostvape to see if they sell a replacement battery? also if you can measure the battery dimensions you could see what you could get to replace it -- just because it has a built in lipo doesn't mean the battery is tied to the mod -- you can replace it like any other battery.
Lipos are a bit picky of what voltage they have when stored -- so it may be that it was sent out or stored fully charged.
if you know the battery dimensions and need help finding a replacement I'm sure I or someone else here would go run the hobby king battery finder for you.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

PS - Steve, if you got that Dicodes menu down in 10 minutes you should apply for a Mensa membership.

Hey George...ok, maybe it was 15 minutes...lol!

 

[footbag]

Just dreaming...

 

[Darkly spectr]

Not sure if its my titanium but I can't get it to work.

either it glows into a smoking mess at 450 degrees. even with squeezing and brushing it at 10ish watts at first.

reading always have it at some stupid number like 550F while set at 450 after a fraction of firing.

 

[nic_fix]

so I went out in two feet of snow to the rc store. got battery it is fine. that is bs though I had to buy a battery.

now I have a vs that is kaput! this is nutz with these things. escribe says battery is full but there is no display at all! guess that goes back to vs too. you know I am not going to take any more bs from hana I will make them let me watch them fix it. if I think he is not fixing it good I will just say unacceptable.

oh what is the one above me? that is swheeeet.

 

[Darkly spectr]

its a edit of the provape radius or something.

people for some reason want this company to make a DNA 200 version even though these guys stated that they think temp control doesn't work and isn't useful and has a .45 ohm limit(if you want to use the actual full power since this thing has a 9.5 amp limit) for....40 watts of power.
also costs 200 bucks.

 

[footbag]

its a edit of the provape radius or something.

people for some reason want this company to make a DNA 200 version even though these guys stated that they think temp control doesn't work and isn't useful and has a .45 ohm limit(if you want to use the actual full power since this thing has a 9.5 amp limit) for....40 watts of power.
also costs 200 bucks.

It's an edit. I did it.

 

[latexyankee]

Any idea why temp mode is not working on 20 different ni200 and titanium builds including premade coils for the triforce.

My dna will just fire in temp mode regardless of profile or settings.

All up to date software its a reulaux, temp mode is not functional ever.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Just dreaming...
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i doubt they will ever use a 3rd party chip...

 

[tehdarkaura]

Any idea why temp mode is not working on 20 different ni200 and titanium builds including premade coils for the triforce.

My dna will just fire in temp mode regardless of profile or settings.

All up to date software its a reulaux, temp mode is not functional ever.

what settings are you using? wattage? temp? Preheat? also start the atty analyzer in escribe -- attach a coil and see how stable the reading is.
edit also try -- detach the atty -- press the fire button -- attach an atty _with a cold coil_ and be sure you answer its a new coil when it asks you....

 

[Landman]

Any idea why temp mode is not working on 20 different ni200 and titanium builds including premade coils for the triforce.

My dna will just fire in temp mode regardless of profile or settings.

All up to date software its a reulaux, temp mode is not functional ever.

The DNA200 will jump out of TC mode if the TCR/.csv values are too far off for the wire so... assuming:
-you're using the Ni200/Ti off a labeled spool from a reputable vendor and not some bagged wire/pieces that you thought were Ni200/Ti;
-you've got the correct EScribe profile set, uploaded and also selected the correct profile on the device itself;
-you're testing/using either a known-to-work RTA/RDA;

it's possible you've got a bum chip. You could try resetting it to default [File > New (Reset to Evolv Standard)], lower the preheat to 1 watt, then try a Ni200 build on Profile 1 and see if it works and check the Atomizer Analyzer. If it still doesn't work and you're 100% sure everything else is good, either warranty it through the vendor or contact Evolv for support.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

its a edit of the provape radius or something.

people for some reason want this company to make a DNA 200 version even though these guys stated that they think temp control doesn't work and isn't useful and has a .45 ohm limit(if you want to use the actual full power since this thing has a 9.5 amp limit) for....40 watts of power.
also costs 200 bucks.

as far as I know, they said they wouldnt produce a TC mod until they made a chip they were happy with, or something along thos lines. Not quite the same thing...

 

[Angus337]

Just had a serious problem with Vaporshark DNA200.

I was using the triton II tank with a new 0.4 ohm SS coil in temp control mode. All I could get was an incredibly hot vape. Even with the temp set as low as 320F. Mod was in temp control mode and was stepping down the power.

Thought this was a problem with the new coil so switched to my crown tank with the Ni coil. Swapped to the my normal crown profile, and got the worst vape I've ever had, incrediby hot vapour and liquid followed by a massive dry hit. It was so hot I've burnt the inside of my lip on the drip tip and the inside of my mouth from the spitting liquid.

I Dropped the temperature and checked it in device manager, which showed it to be controlling at the set temperature, and dropping the power as you would expect. However the actual temperature was way hotter the the set temperature. Also tried my tfv4 mini and go the same result.

After a soft reboot and it is now working fine again, so not sure what the issue was, may be one of incident, but I certainly don't want a repeat of this. I'm also wary of using it at high watts again.

Any one else had a similar issue or know what may have caused this?

 

[KTMRider]

Any idea why temp mode is not working on 20 different ni200 and titanium builds including premade coils for the triforce.

My dna will just fire in temp mode regardless of profile or settings.

All up to date software its a reulaux, temp mode is not functional ever.

Bad ground connection.

 

[Vlad1]

Any idea why temp mode is not working on 20 different ni200 and titanium builds including premade coils for the triforce.

My dna will just fire in temp mode regardless of profile or settings.

All up to date software its a reulaux, temp mode is not functional ever.

Try doing hard reboot of the device. Seems there is a bug that causes it to not fire in TL mode all the time when it should. Here's a couple captures using the same settings, atty and coil with the only difference being a reboot between the two captures. In the first capture you'll notice it doesn't monitor or report the Temperature while the Live Ohms goes to .419Ω as one would expect. On the device however it never was in Temp Mode and only displayed -----F

Edit: You can also notice there is no Preheat applied in this first attempt either another sign the device was not applying the TL algorithms since there is no Preheat in Power mode.

This one was taken with no changes to the device, atty or anything other than a Hard Reboot. Notice it now is in Temp Limiting mode and it's being measured and reported as well as Live Ohms rising similarly to the first attempt.

 

[nic_fix]

my other vs was sitting until the battery is dead. it came up with cell 2 is .3v less than 1 and 3. I guess I will have to charge it and see if they even out. otherwise that is gone too. well I mean warranty service. angus, that happened to me too on vs and others. evolve might have to work on this like they did dna40.

I personally think tc is the best.