DNA40 vs SX350j

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With this new technology came a realization also that the 510 connector design and atty design also deserved attention. A solid connection is necessary. Some industry leaders have already started addressing this. I saw a new 510 design in a new device being built soon where the 510 has a new type of adjuster that can be locked down for a solid and sealed connection. I also know some industry leaders also worked with Aspire on their just released nickel pre-made coil heads. Gotta love how fast technology is moving but it is not without growing pains...

NEW type 510 shown in this video....starting at about 3:56



In my recent experiebnce the inoput from VS on the design of the aspire atlantis coils has worked a treat. They are rock solid at -.15ohms and dont move at all on DNA40 or SX. In marked contrast to kanger Ni coils!
 

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I think Evolv will bring more and better.... traditionally when they bring something new they are working on a couple other things also... the temp limiting technology was about a two year project I'm told...

I agree and Brnadon hass alluded to new stuff several times I think. Problem is, they need to get it out (whatever it is) sooner rather than later. The market is awash with TC devices coming from all directions. Unless they have another game-changer up their sleeve, they will struggle with market penetration against a background of cheaper (and quite functional) TC mods coming from all over creation!
 

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I agree and Brnadon hass alluded to new stuff several times I think. Problem is, they need to get it out (whatever it is) sooner rather than later. The market is awash with TC devices coming from all directions. Unless they have another game-changer up their sleeve, they will struggle with market penetration against a background of cheaper (and quite functional) TC mods coming from all over creation!

That's what everyone said when the dna30 was cloned.
 
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In my recent experiebnce the inoput from VS on the design of the aspire atlantis coils has worked a treat. They are rock solid at -.15ohms and dont move at all on DNA40 or SX. In marked contrast to kanger Ni coils!

Yep... I have found the Atlantis coils to be quite nice...
 

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Yep... I have found the Atlantis coils to be quite nice...
Thats great to hear some positive comments on Atlantis ni200 coils! Honestly I had been skepitcal about buying them after using GCT coils on a VCT Mega which has left me quite underwhelmed. The experience I've had with the .25 ohm GCT coils leaves something to be desired as I found myself cranking up the temp and subsequently the wattage a bit just to get it to vape properly. Unless I'm mistaken at the proper usage for them but shooting up to 480+° F when I don't for my own coils starts to get rather high for me.
 

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Can't wait to use the Hana V4 I ordered Sunday.... Out for delivery already today....should have in hand by 11:30 am.... and only 135 bucks (10% Mothers Day coupon) with free shipping .... new design and has easily to change battery door and USB charging. Small form factor and new fire button.


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Comparison: Pbusardo DNA40 review and Pbusardo SX Mini M review. This would be a long post if I listed what he said hence I've included links to the videos for those who want to watch them.

As we all know, in giving his opinion, he does a "Thumbs Up", "Thumbs Down", and then gives an overall rating of Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down to a device/technology, and etc.

From the Part 2 reviews of each I counted (correct me if I missed any in his Thumb Up/Thumbs Down) the following:

SX Mini M: (starting at 18:35)

Thumbs Down - 12.......... Thumbs Up - 5........ Overall rating: Strong Thumbs Up

DNA40: (starting at 52:50)

Thumbs Down - 7........... Thumbs Up - 10....... Overall Rating: Thumbs Down
 
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Comparison: Pbusardo DNA40 review and Pbusardo SX Mini M review. This would be a long post if I listed what he said hence I've included links to the videos for those who want to watch them.

As we all know, in giving his opinion, he does a "Thumbs Up", "Thumbs Down", and then gives an overall rating of Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down to a device/technology, and etc.

From the Part 2 reviews of each I counted (correct me if I missed any in his Thumb Up/Thumbs Down) the following:

SX Mini M: (starting at 18:35)

Thumbs Down - 12.......... Thumbs Up - 5........ Overall rating: Strong Thumbs Up

DNA40: (starting at 52:50)

Thumbs Down - 7........... Thumbs Up - 10....... Overall Rating: Thumbs Down


Yes he stated at the end of the SXmini M review that while the list of Thumbs Down was longer than the list of Thumbs up. He attributed most of the thumbs down to the "Tech" different atomizers static resistance and connectivity of those atomizers. And the manner in which we're doing tempeature control. But he also states that what the SXmini M does with the Tech "Different atomizers" it does it really really well and once set it's very very stable and very very consistent.

starting at about 26:00



Whereas In the DNA 40 review he had numerous functional erors and inconsistencies not attributed to anything but the device itself. And anyone that watches his reviews know's it only takes one to get a overall "Thumbs Down" The DNA 40 had numerous serious defects.

Just to mention a few:
Scrambled screens
Irregular battery bar
Temperature drift "Refinement"
Inconsistency in maintaining vapor
Sticking in temp or power mode when changing toppers
Not able to change mode manualy when stuck



I think counting the number of Thumbs up vs Thumbs down to be misleading if not considering the nature or seriousness of each of those thumbs downs for comparison of his overall "Thumbs up / Thumbs down"

For a simple analogy take into consideration buying a car. You find two you like, Car A has 12 paint dings. Car B has no engine.

So while Car A has 12 flaws, Car B only has 1. Would you buy Car B?
 
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Yes he stated at the end of the SXmini M review that while the list of Thumbs Down was longer than the list of Thumbs up. He attributed most of the thumbs down to the "Tech" different atomizers static resistance and connectivity of those atomizers. And the manner in which we're doing tempeature control. But he also states that what the SXmini M does with the Tech "Different atomizers" it does it really really well and once set it's very very stable and very very consistent.

starting at about 26:00



Whereas In the DNA 40 review he had numerous functional erors and inconsistencies not attributed to anything but the device itself. And anyone that watches his reviews know's it only takes one to get a overall "Thumbs Down" The DNA 40 had numerous serious defects.

Just to mention a few:
Scrambled screens
Irregular battery bar
Temperature drift "Refinement"
Inconsistency in maintaining vapor
Sticking in temp or power mode when changing toppers
Not able to change mode manualy when stuck



I think counting the number of Thumbs up vs Thumbs down to be misleading if not considering the nature or seriousness of each of those thumbs downs for comparison of his overall "Thumbs up / Thumbs down"

For a simple analogy take into consideration buying a car. You find two you like, Car A has 12 paint dings. Car B has no engine.

So while Car A has 12 flaws, Car B only has 1. Would you buy Car B?

If I'm Fred Flinstone, I most definitely buy Car B ;)

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Comparison that was posted did not favor or not favor either technology but only stated Thumbs' in a condensed fashion so those who come here can read (and further watch both parts of each review if they choose) and form their own opinions and comments.

I didn't say it favored one or the other. I said it was misleading since you did not take into consideration the nature or seriousness of those "Thumbs up vs Thumbs Down" Showing half of the relevant information in your comparison in "condensed fashion" isn't really very informative and is misleading.
 

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IMO, the best thing the sx350j has going for it is user upgradeability. The board has been available for less than two months (I believe) and yihi is already coming out with features to fix some user complaints. Don't get me wrong, I like my dna40's, but it rubbed me the wrong way that I bought one two weeks before they added "atty lock" and the only way to get that feature was to buy a new board.
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(they could work on their English though ;) "modified bug" lol )

EDIT: Also, to touch on previous points, I believe user upgradeability was a thing China did first.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like my dna40's, but it rubbed me the wrong way that I bought one two weeks before they added "atty lock" and the only way to get that feature was to buy a new board.

Guess that's one way to get repeat customers. ;) Just kidding I'm sure it's a fantastic device once setup and working correctly even without the addition of "atty lock"

EDIT: Also, to touch on previous points, I believe user upgradeability was a thing China did first.
Not sure who was first and IMO not really that important to who was first or second. I've been doing firmware updates since the late 80's and who started them back then I don't recall but it should be common place in today's times. I've probably done over a thousand firmware updates over the years and even at my house the list is pretty long that I update on occasion.

Network routers, Blue-ray player, Cell phones, NVR, Security camera's, Tablets, Desktop, Notebook, SX350 V2, SXmini M,
And probably a couple others I cant think of.

I expect to see this more and more especially after a production launch that hasn't went over so great. A lot of folks not happy about the feature or lack of feature they missed out on because of different revisions and they're stuck with what they bought.
 
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