DNA40 vs SX350j
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Honestly, not seeing much to be impressed by so far. Much more reactionary than evolutionary. It's good to see though that the copied Yihi and finally went with upgradeable firmware.
The nice thing about the sx350j chip is that it's already firmware upgradable. That makes it very easy for Yihi to add support for titanium and other wires for temperature limiting. Add a software suite that allows some tinkering and they have nothing to fear. As for those 200 watts the Evolv board has, it sounds nice on paper but is anyone going to really use it? I don't think so. It's just a pissing contest.
Honestly, not seeing much to be impressed by so far. Much more reactionary than evolutionary. It's good to see though that the copied Yihi and finally went with upgradeable firmware.
Temp control was a revolution, there are only evolutions now. Though Software Control from a PC is pretty evolutionary to me. 200 Watts is also nothing to look down on, especially if it will handle temp mode (not that it matters much as of now because we arent making those kind of builds atm) its nice to see it being as possible and future proofing the chip for a while.
If you're not impressed, then I really cant understand what it would be they would need to do in order to do that. We havent seen official specs and how temp control will be officially handled, so a few surprises may be inbound. Though if they release a buggy piece of ...., none of this will matter. Beta testing using paying customers is not how things should be going as they did with the DNA40. Having a chip in a decent size with things like on board memory that handles more feature/more power will pretty much always be better and impressive, though your definition is what I seem to misunderstand.
Of course people will use 200 watts. Some of my builds have hit that number and higher. Just need the right atty/airflow/wicking. 200 watts isn't something special when you consider some builds.
It honestly reminds me of when AMD and Intel got into a pissing contest over Megahertz, because consumers didn't know any better. They just thought this chip is clocked faster than the other one, so it must be better. For TC, which is where the industry is headed, 200W isn't all that useful.
Things that would actually impress me:
(a) support for thermocouples, which is the next step in TC;
(b) consumer-oriented platform integration - mucking about with your chip's profile on a PC isn't consumer friendly. A chip that allows a bluetooth connection to a smartphone app can offer a lot. For example, receiving a notification that your battery is low on your cellphone, such that you replace it before heading out for the night. Or an app on your cellphone that allows you to push settings (e.g., resistance, joules/wattage, temperaturee) at the press of a button. Fundamentally, an app should allow complete control of the mod, which leads to . . .
(c) an information sharing platform that allows a user to share and receive information about the best setup for a certain atomizer, build, and e-liquid. For example, I go to an app, tell it that I'm using Kanger Subtank Mini with 0.5 ohm coil and vaping Ripe Vapes VCT. Then the apps gives recommended settings based on manufacturer specs, e-liquid specs, or what other vapers recommend. Click a button and download it to my mod. Vape happy.
Just a few examples
Like the DNA40 being plagued by screen glitches, which has never been adequately resolved? To fix that problem, do you expect that everyone with a DNA40 will be offered a free DNA200 chip? I'm going to assume no, but you can let me know if that's an incorrect assumption.
Like the DNA40 being plagued by screen glitches, which has never been adequately resolved? To fix that problem, do you expect that everyone with a DNA40 will be offered a free DNA200 chip? I'm going to assume no, but you can let me know if that's an incorrect assumption.
It has been largely resolved, and they are offered the same DNA40 replacement that they are now. It's called a warranty. Not a new concept.
Largely been resolved, but still turning up in reviews not even a month old. Yep, I totally believe you.
And that's a defense to the poor quality control on the DNA40 how exactly?
Things that would actually impress me:
(a) support for thermocouples, which is the next step in TC;
(b) consumer-oriented platform integration - mucking about with your chip's profile on a PC isn't consumer friendly. A chip that allows a bluetooth connection to a smartphone app can offer a lot. For example, receiving a notification that your battery is low on your cellphone, such that you replace it before heading out for the night. Or an app on your cellphone that allows you to push settings (e.g., resistance, joules/wattage, temperaturee) at the press of a button. Fundamentally, an app should allow complete control of the mod, which leads to . . .
(c) an information sharing platform that allows a user to share and receive information about the best setup for a certain atomizer, build, and e-liquid. For example, I go to an app, tell it that I'm using Kanger Subtank Mini with 0.5 ohm coil and vaping Ripe Vapes VCT. Then the apps gives recommended settings based on manufacturer specs, e-liquid specs, or what other vapers recommend. Click a button and download it to my mod. Vape happy.
Just a few examples
I agree with the last two fully. But we need more market saturation before that occurs, and quite a bit more tech. The first suggestion is a given must. But the leap will have to be done when serious standards like 510 connects can be dumped. It's hard putting out a new tech that literally makes every other atty and mod obsolete. Easier said than done is all I'm saying. The money and risk are huge along with the R&D behind it.
Edit: there is a cool cool building app with user build suggestion integration currently on iPhones and maybe android called micro coilPro. This is prolly what you meant but on a much more sophisticated scale and application.
Oh and everyone should have this thing, really beyond worth it.
Badly binned boards prolly? Who knows but still not good I agree. The tech is there, but they tried making the size of the chip the same for easy transplants to older devices. A nice gesture no one seemed to care about sadly, but I guess people will be now ok all there high end stabilized mods will be outdated once the new chip comes in with no screen glitches.
Thats the problem I had on the DNA40, more than 25, unessisary, but when I need more than 25, I need also more than 40. Same thing with the 60. The f+++ off statement they make with 200 is enough for 95%+ of vapers if you ask me personally. It's just a nice gesture more than anything.
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