Do I vape too much?

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LeoRex

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Too much nic gives insomnia? I power vape at night after the rest of the fam hits the sack and I usually end up zonking out on the couch with my Vamo on my chest. Heh.

2ml a day isn't a ton. I'll go through around that much just vaping a little here and there. When I finally found a juice that grabbed me by the boo-boo, I vaped a good 5ml a day on a week long, 30ml bottle bender.... and promptly wore out the ol taste buds.
 

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Too much nic gives insomnia? I power vape at night after the rest of the fam hits the sack and I usually end up zonking out on the couch with my Vamo on my chest. Heh.

Can for me. It's some degree of stimulant and I fell into a habit of "chain vaping" when I plopped on the couch to watch what little TV I bother with. And it wasn't insomnia really. I was just... awake. It wasn't that tired, ohgawdiwannasleep feeling, I was just... awake.

On top of that, for some, leaving the other 3,999 chemicals in cigs behind, can cause insomnia. I dunno. My sleep habits got whipped back and forth so much, I should have whiplash or something. It was a little roller coaster for a while there...
 

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I don't have any side effects from the nicotine and only get 6 mg in my juice. My partner does smoke and thinks its not fair that I can vape in the house and she has to go outside to smoke. I let her try some flavors and she just makes faces at me. She also says the vapor gives her asthma from the smell. I'm very happy that I quit smoking and I think she is jealous. I wonder if anyone else has a partner that is not supportive?

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She also says the vapor gives her asthma from the smell.

Wait. A smoker who has asthma is blaming the vapor?

WRONG.

Google "asthmatic smokers" and it's page after page after page after...

Like this: Cigarette Smoking and Asthma

"In asthma, spasm of the muscles surrounding the bronchial tubes and swelling of those tubes makes breathing difficult. Some cigarette smokers develop irreversible narrowing of their bronchial tubes from inflammation and scarring, causing permanent breathing problems. Persons with asthma who smoke cigarettes are in "double jeopardy": they risk episodes of breathing difficulty due to asthma on top of everyday shortness of breath from the cigarette smoke-induced lung diseases, emphysema and chronic bronchitis. Of interest, most adults who experience the new onset of asthma after age 50 have a past history of cigarette smoking."

Everywhere you look, medical folk are talking about cigarette smoke causing asthmatic events, adult onset asthma in adults who would not otherwise have developed asthma, and how tobacco smoke is a powerful asthma trigger.

Man, smokers can rationalize like nobody's business. Makes me wonder what nutty stories I told myself over the years. It was only around sometime in my later 40s I basically came to the conclusion I was killing myself but I was too addicted to stop and just sort of gave up.

(But then I stumbled into this "vaping" thing and everything changed. :) )

No, sorry, the smoking is triggering and exacerbating the asthma. There are studies. It's not in question.
 

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That's funny. M mother said the same thing. The vapor is making me cough. I wasn't even smoking it around her...lol

Heh, ironically, vapor can make me cough. I can't do the deep inhale some do. My lungs don't like water. Weird huh? :)

I do the shallow, "draw into mouth, exhale through nose" thing. So, funny thing, vapor can make me sneeze. I have allergies and if the pollen is really high, the first exhale of the morning sometimes triggers a sneezing fit. I mean, I'd sneeze eventually anyway. But the vapor does something that gets the sneezing started. :)

Actually, what's even funnier about that is the vapor in "e-cigs" (I'm starting to really not like that term myself) is used in hospitals to deliver medicine to the lungs! I am not kidding here. As I recall, asthma inhalers use PG. It's got a number of uses in medicine. Which is why you can buy "pharmaceutical grade" PG.

In my family, I'm the odd man out being I went into computers. I'm just surrounded by people in the medical field in one way or the other. When I said, "propylene glycol", they went, "oh yeah, okay". Like, oh, here's the Wiki:

"Propylene glycol is a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations, such as for diazepam and lorazepam that are insoluble in water, use propylene glycol as a solvent in their clinical, injectable forms."

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Doctors inject this stuff into patients. On purpose even. :)

PG is a food additive in the US. And widely used to carry flavors. It's used in sodas, salad dressings, drinks, biscuits, cakes, sweets... I can go on for a loooooong time.

(Like body wash, soaps, shampoo, bath crystals, toothpaste, pretty much every single bit of makeup that exists...)

Near as I can tell, you can only avoid PG by moving to a cave and never coming out...
 

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You are right about the smoking and asthma. She is driving me nuts with her criticism of vaping. She even is complaining about me being on this forum! I just keep vaping on. The only problem I have is I keep buying new juices and accessories. It's turned into a new hobby for me!

Well, better hobby that repeatedly inhaling cancer causing chemicals eh?

Folks around here joke about the money they spend on vaping as hobby. I was thinking about that one day and it occurred to me to ask, "If you had cancer and there were treatments, would you spend every dime you could get your hand on in hopes of surviving?"

It's not that vaping can "insure" you won't get cancer or emphysema or other smoking related diseases but you sure as hell are reducing the chances of getting them. What if quitting smoking at this point in your life cuts your chances of a serious, smoking related disease in, oh, half? How much is that worth to you? In dollars.

When I first got here, I thought, "Oh that's silly making it a hobby". I was wrong. The truly stupid hobby is paying for the "privilege" to inhale dangerous chemicals into your lungs.

Oh, sure, don't spend your grocery money on vaping, that's idiotic. But as hobbies go, one that keeps you away from something we know was wrecking our health? Well... why not?
 
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