Do not order White Cloud

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JoeD4

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My wife and I also got "ripped off" on our first e-cig. As many have posted before, these unscrupulous vendors are really turning people off to a potentially life saving product. There are a good deal of reputable vendors who sell GOOD ecigs at fair prices. Please don't give up. I have personally used the Joye 510, Kr808d and the Joye eGo. Those are all good kits that work! I have found the people at cignot.com to be more than helpful. They sell the 510's and eGo's. I have enjoyed e-liquid from Tastyvapor.us and halocigs.com. They are not the cheapest but the prices are reasonable for the great products they sell. There are many more great vendors out there.....these are just the ones I personally have experience with. Look around the forums and you will find many vendors and products, complete with reviews and personal experiences. Good luck and don't give up! :)
 

Cool_Breeze

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Cartomizers don't really last as long as a pack of cigs, especially prefilled ones which may be light on juice to prevent leaks, especially if the unit has auto batteries and the vendor doesn't want to kill them with juice leaks. Ripoff rebranders like to say a carto lasts as long as a pack of cigs or even 1.5 packs. It's just a lie.

However, if you keep a carto damp by adding juice when it needs it, and not let it run dry (which could singe the stuffing or strain the atty inside), then a carto can work well for days or longer.

IMO

If you want to keep using prefilled cartomizers including any you have left over - get manual KR808D-1 batteries, in the standard length. I recommend manual ones even if you think a button would bother you. Manual batteries are not dependent on a threaded end drag sensor so harder to kill with a juice leak. Manuals won't turn on by accident from wind or vibration. And I think they are less work. The button makes it make vapor and you can drag softly or however you want.

You can get plain white and steel KR808D-1 at LiteCigUSA.net or VaporLeaf.com, and colors plus prefilled cartos at Vapor4Life.com. Bloogplanet also has prefilled cartos. To be safe you could just order one battery first and see if it works with your charger and cartos.

If you want longer battery life for the same kind of cartos - there is KR808D-1 XL for 380mah which may give 4-6 hours (but they will not fit in the PCC) or the fat battery models Le Cig's PigCig or Cigeasy's Elegant Easy (both should give 6-8+ hours, and need their own PCCs if they offer those)

If you want to switch to something totally new and use atty+carts (need filling more often) or use just blank cartomizers, look at Joye 510 (standard battery charge life would be like a short KR8 or maybe your cirrus II, mega xl 510 batteries have charge length like a standard KR8), and Ego or Riva 510 for fat battery models.

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Secti0n31

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Yeah while we're at it I fully endorse:

MadVapes
CloudsOfVapor
ValueVapor.com
LiteCigUSA.net
IkenVape.com (attys&Cartos)
GourmetVapor
Blu (even though they're a little overpriced, they have gotten a lot of people to convert)
Volcano


And soon I will probably be endorsing:
FreedomSmokeUSA
TastyVapor
Great Lakes Vapor
and TheEcig.com

There are a lot of reliable, fantastic Vendors out there. People like this white cloud vapor make the whole industry look bad, and they got a very polite passive-aggressive email from me a half hour ago.
 

pixiedust

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Yeah while we're at it I fully endorse:

MadVapes
CloudsOfVapor
ValueVapor.com
LiteCigUSA.net
IkenVape.com (attys&Cartos)
GourmetVapor
Blu (even though they're a little overpriced, they have gotten a lot of people to convert)
Volcano


And soon I will probably be endorsing:
FreedomSmokeUSA
TastyVapor
Great Lakes Vapor
and TheEcig.com

There are a lot of reliable, fantastic Vendors out there. People like this white cloud vapor make the whole industry look bad, and they got a very polite passive-aggressive email from me a half hour ago.

I would add to the list of trusted vendors:
Gotvapes
Nhaler
LIberty Flights (20% off coupon at top left)
 
Sux to get fleeced, but at the end of the day it merely lengthens the time until you break even on analog/e-cig costs, unless you get hooked on testing juice flavors and glittery new hardware! ;)-~...just focus on how much better you'll feel once you make the switch, and what fun it will be to go bouncing through life with a clean set of lungs!
 

jimbalny

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I think we've all been burned at least once before doing the proper research. I myself enjoy a lot of vapor and the njoy then the 808 just werenr enough for me I spent so mich on the crap njoys before discoverin this forum. Now I'm goin to he ego t tank woohoo! Ill let u guys know how it is after I get it
 

tonyorion

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I can only add my voice to those of us who have been ripped of, especially by the INTERNET hype. We read "best electronic cigarette" as reviewed by "unbiased" or official sounding name such as e cig reviews, and are convinced by what we read.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Some clever INTERNET marketing guy pays google to get their name up in an e cig search. I did say pay, or do you think that google got that big by wishful thinking?

So they buy the cheapest stuff from China through AliBaba or something similar, mark it up 1000% or more, and get away with it for a long time. Even negative reviews on honest forums get buried on page 50 of your search because the minute they spot something negative, they flood the net with something new.

Sometimes, the same person or group of persons will run multiple brands of the same product but reviewed in the same article. If one brand gets a bad rap someplace, they will post something new on another brand-say a new color or package or whatever, but the whole thing gets bumped up to the top of the search.

In the end, it becomes a tangled and complicated web of lies and misdirection. Unless you stumble onto one of the honest and open forums, it becomes easy to get tricked.

I did and got suckered in. A lot of us did. It was not until I stumbled onto e cig forum that I was able to find real information.

Do a google search of "best e cig reviews" and see what you come up with: mostly overpriced junk.

Don't give up though! I will have my one year anniversary on April 20 after 40 years of 1.5 packs/day. Even though I overpayed a lot with a really under performing e cig, it was worth it to get started!
 
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