Do some new vapers have a death wish?

[Two_Bears]

When I started vaping, I had a .6 dual coil build rda running on 3.7 volts. It's the only setup that kept me satisfied and away form analogs. Sad to say it was the amount of vapor that satisfied me. What you see in my avatar was that exact setup. I didn't do it because it looked cool. I am too old to look cool but I am also too old to not worry about what analogs can do to me. I do agree that it is wrong that young non smokers are attracted to clouds but I don't agree with generalizing newbies who chase clouds are wrong. What I did and how I started was all because it was what made me stop smoking.

I was not talking about all new vapers Just the ones who feel like they can't get a satisfying vape without builfing dangerously low or feel NB they can't get a satisfying vape without firing the full 200 watts and so arrogant thry refuse to listen to real safety issues

 

[smokinGAVIN]

I was not talking about all new vapers Just the ones who feel like they can't get a satisfying vape without builfing dangerously low or feel NB they can't get a satisfying vape without firing the full 200 watts and so arrogant thry refuse to listen to real safety issues

I know where you are coming from. I got my education here on this forum. I started a thread in the newbie section and I learned a lot about battery safety and ohms law from that thread. I am glad that members here "schooled" me about the things I needed to know because the vape shop didn't.

 

[Danbrooks2k]

I consider myself an advanced vaper. I don't wrap coils ( near sighted ) but buy them from china ( claptons, twisted 28g, ect ) I use the velocity, TFV4 Clapton rba deck, the crius... But I don't vape anything over 75 watts... and really still enjoy my ISUB-G or apex at 25 watts on an MVP Pro, or a subtank plus with stock Clapton coils as a daily driver.

I don't like bottom firing mods, and with the amazing regulated mods like my Releaux 200 why would I ever need or want a mech... I DIY my own juice, a recoil or rewick stock coils and explore nifty new tanks like the Dovpo Harvest tank ( a nice subtank compatible upgrade, or the Tobecco supertank mini...

Wrapping dangerous coils on unregulated pipe bombs??? I don't get it

But I am also a paramedic and have seen pics of the injuries... I sell gear offshore and not one piece of it is unsafe.

We need to educate these new vapers ... there is simply no need to risk injury.

 

[herb]

I was not talking about all new vapers Just the ones who feel like they can't get a satisfying vape without builfing dangerously low or feel NB they can't get a satisfying vape without firing the full 200 watts and so arrogant thry refuse to listen to real safety issues

Imo, tons of "youngsters" seem to like that stuff more than older folks and have that mind set of " must obtain most powerful mod on earth" mentality.

They certainly can be annoying can't they lol, but there youngsters , it's takes many years to start developing a clue . These days when a newbie starts exploring e cigs , sub ohm vaping is what they think is the norm , all the most popular tanks seem to be sub ohm and they think the more powerful mod is a better mod.

Most older folks will also start with a sub ohm tank these days , i don't like sub ohm vaping as i don't think it provides the best vape at least for me.

As far as "clouds" , nope , was never fascinated with clouds and i don't think i will ever get it , i mean how bored do you have to be to lose your freaking mind and start yelling and celebrating over a plume of water vapor , just doesn't make sense to me.


Anyways , times a changing folks and i have discovered to just live and let be , especially with youngsters that aren't mine , good luck trying to get them to see your way , hopeless .

 

[JMarca]

I'm by definition a "tootlepuffer" I don't step outside the house without my almost 4 year old Provari and aeither a subtank or a carto.

But at home at night while watching TV I do enjoy my tanks and drippers I do vape 60-75w on a 0.25ohm coil. Mind you that's no where near my batteries limit and anything above that my old, scarred lungs would just explode!

If I was 20 years younger and healthier I wouldn't mind vaping a bit higher, mind you I still wouldn't be anywhere near what I see some people doing (I'm looking at you 0.01 people), and I wouldn't be out in public fogging up the place that's just rude.I got into this now hobby as a means to quit smoking nothing more nothing less, I just happen to enjoy this method of harm reduction.

 

[Northy]

Cloud chucking is now a sport... it's hard for safety and logic to compete with a competition like that.

People will always do stupid things and with something as unregulated as vaping I'm surprised there hasn't been a hell of a lot more injuries. Safety laws are preventing a lot of Darwinian theory in action, and fools will crowd around and push the limits of more dangerous hobbies as a natural instinct. There's nothing as a group (those of us who advocate battery safety/common sense) can do, but stand back and watch.

Oh well. I'll keep puffing my boring ol' 1 ohm coils and dropping in "what did you expect?" at the appropriate times.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

I on the other hand need the clouds to satisfy me. That's what got me off analogs and that became the norm for me. Don't get me wrong, My clouds are nowhere near what I see in competitions and youtube videos. My daily vape right now is a tank that uses kanger stock coils. I use the .5 ohm coils and vape it at 35 to 40 watts. I do however bring around a tube mech with an RDA for backup but very rarely use it. I drip when I am at home though with a .4 build at 45 to 50 watts. I'm not sure if that counts as cloud chasing but I have bigger clouds than my fellow vapers that I see on a daily basis.

 

[Northy]

After a few drinks on the weekend I've been known to fire up a dual coil dripper @ .5 ohms. It's my vape version of chain smoking whilst on the booze.

 

[Two_Bears]

I know where you are coming from. I got my education here on this forum. I started a thread in the newbie section and I learned a lot about battery safety and ohms law from that thread. I am glad that members here "schooled" me about the things I needed to know because the vape shop didn't.

Glad you see where I am coming from.

 

[Steamix]

Almost every day I see new vapers doing their Best to push the envelope way beyond safety levels.

People seem to think that just because a mod will Fire up to 200 watts. That is not why you get a 200 wstt device.

The reason you get a 200 watt device is so you can find a satisfying vape, and the batteries will last a good long time.

The other group that has me PULLING MY HAIR OUT is the person who get a mod that can fire all the way down to .15 or .05 then they come here and ask people to help them wrsp a coil that puts them on the razors edge of safety. Without understanding battery safety ot if their batteries can deal with a build that low, and not taking the time to understand resistance of Ohm's law.

Why do people insist in turning a safe mod into a pipe bomb?!

If you don't care about your own safety; I will not help you turn your mod into a bomb.

Carry on. My rant is over. Back to my den.

Let them.

Best if they blow their heads off before they have a chance to breed....

Unfortunately, its givng the rest of the vaping community a bad rep and the ANTZ plus ilk a good excuse for spoiling it for every vaper ...

 

[Two_Bears]

I consider myself an advanced vaper. I don't wrap coils ( near sighted ) but buy them from china ( claptons, twisted 28g, ect ) I use the velocity, TFV4 Clapton rba deck, the crius... But I don't vape anything over 75 watts... and really still enjoy my ISUB-G or apex at 25 watts on an MVP Pro, or a subtank plus with stock Clapton coils as a daily driver.

I don't like bottom firing mods, and with the amazing regulated mods like my Releaux 200 why would I ever need or want a mech... I DIY my own juice, a recoil or rewick stock coils and explore nifty new tanks like the Dovpo Harvest tank ( a nice subtank compatible upgrade, or the Tobecco supertank mini...

Wrapping dangerous coils on unregulated pipe bombs??? I don't get it

But I am also a paramedic and have seen pics of the injuries... I sell gear offshore and not one piece of it is unsafe.

We need to educate these new vapers ... there is simply no need to risk injury.

OK let's put it this way. You have a regulated mod that can fire dosne go .15 ohms but they have some re wrapped batteries that are bottom shelf batteries. They. Fire the mod. The batteries get hof and the battery vents or explodes.

Just because the mod can fire tgaty low does not mean your batteries are safe at that level.

 

[Two_Bears]

I'm by definition a "tootlepuffer" I don't step outside the house without my almost 4 year old Provari and aeither a subtank or a carto.

But at home at night while watching TV I do enjoy my tanks and drippers I do vape 60-75w on a 0.25ohm coil. Mind you that's no where near my batteries limit and anything above that my old, scarred lungs would just explode!

If I was 20 years younger and healthier I wouldn't mind vaping a bit higher, mind you I still wouldn't be anywhere near what I see some people doing (I'm looking at you 0.01 people), and I wouldn't be out in public fogging up the place that's just rude.I got into this now hobby as a means to quit smoking nothing more nothing less, I just happen to enjoy this method of harm reduction.

I'm a tootle puffer too. I like sub ohming .8 ohm at 20 watts or less.

 

[Two_Bears]

Imo, tons of "youngsters" seem to like that stuff more than older folks and have that mind set of " must obtain most powerful mod on earth" mentality.

They certainly can be annoying can't they lol, but there youngsters , it's takes many years to start developing a clue . These days when a newbie starts exploring e cigs , sub ohm vaping is what they think is the norm , all the most popular tanks seem to be sub ohm and they think the more powerful mod is a better mod.

Most older folks will also start with a sub ohm tank these days , i don't like sub ohm vaping as i don't think it provides the best vape at least for me.

As far as "clouds" , nope , was never fascinated with clouds and i don't think i will ever get it , i mean how bored do you have to be to lose your freaking mind and start yelling and celebrating over a plume of water vapor , just doesn't make sense to me.


Anyways , times a changing folks and i have discovered to just live and let be , especially with youngsters that aren't mine , good luck trying to get them to see your way , hopeless .

You have it pegged. They have to build all the way down to the lowest resistance and have to get the very last Nano watt out of their mod. 199.999 watts is not good enough.

 

[Bubsmash]

I remember when I first started out vaping a guy that had been doing it for well over a year wanted me to go out and buy a mech mod as my first initial device into the world of vaping. With allot of research myself I had found that it would not of suited with what I wanted.
I also know allot more than the average person out there in due to the Remote Control world and I have personally seen some very crazy things happen already. There will always be dumb people out there doing really dumb things and it is those people that end up ruining a good thing to those that do there research as well as take the extra safety precautions to use mech mods in a very safe manner.
The first high end Vape store I went into I told them I did not want a mech mod but a guy was telling me that is what I should get. Myself I know about Ohms law and I settled for Sigelei 150W TC. I told them exactly with what I wanted the device to do and I am not a cloud chaser I do it to get my nicotine fill for now as well as the great flavors I vape.
I find that anything dangerous or that has a real risk is just the in thing with the younger crowd these days. Yes I very easily could of used a mech mod safely that the guy had picked out for me but the down side would of been not being able to vape at any time I so desired because of all the constant monitoring ect.
Like I say cloud chasing to me is just a big waste of time and a waste of good tasting juice but hey that is just me. If you are younger and you vape do not get all .... hurt because I said with what I said because around my parts that is the only people that chase clouds is people that are between the ages of 19 to 28.

 

[Rizzyking]

Forums play a part there have been plenty of people on here in the last twelve months that clearly didn't have the safety knowledge hell some of them near zero knowledge beyond "I want to buy that mech thing, oh can you build me the lowest ohm coil you can" come on here ask borderline stupid questions and get them answered. Yes there are plenty of members who will offer good advice and even refuse to help out of concern for the op's safety but they only need that one answer to go off doing stupid stuff. Biggest weapon the antz have in their armoury and are only recently starting to use are vaping forums where people who should know better give out knowledge that isn't suitable or safe for the people they are giving it too but their ego has to be shown.

 

[WharfRat1976]

My biggest rant is about people ranting about what other people are doing. That's my rant.

 

[LMS62]

My biggest rant is about people ranting about what other people are doing. That's my rant.

^^^^^This exactly!

 

[lunloon]

I'm the kind of person who thinks that if i wanna ride in the winds at 120kmh (75mph) I want a bike that can run at 240 kmh (150mph), not that I want to ride it at the max speed. So i bought a 200W mod to vape at 80W.

And I also think that W works on both across the coil and across the batteries, just not in the same equation but 2 different equations.

I went to 2 vape shops, the 1st one where i went to, i spent about 2 hrs there asking the owner and the owner equally teaching me.
The 2nd one I went to he just gave me what i wanted without a hoot and i came out in 5 minutes.

All vape the same, but none of them are equal.

 

[herb]

You have it pegged. They have to build all the way down to the lowest resistance and have to get the very last Nano watt out of their mod. 199.999 watts is not good enough.

Thanks , i am just relating to what i have witnessed especially over the last year or so . I think most older folks look at vaping somewhat differently than youngsters do .

I don't think most 50, 60 + year olds are into "cloud " competitions and i think the majority care much less about making sure their mod matches their topper and stuff along those lines . As long as it works well and isn't overly complicated their happy .

The current generation seems to be much more into aesthetic's , vaping at the extremes where even Harry Houdini would say (not me man ) but thats typical youngster thinking .

 

[K_Tech]

I remember back when I was a youngster and my friends and I built a ramp to jump our bikes over. We didn't have a death wish, we just wanted to be cool like Evel Knievel. Little did we know we'd have as much success as he did with his Caesar's Palace jump in the early 70's.
I have no problem with someone that is trying to push the envelope. It's the ones that don't even know the envelope exists that worry me. Because they're the ones that get the headlines (And the YouTube "fail" videos).