Do You Believe In Aliens or UFOs?

[shivadance]

I believe in swordfish.

He believes in swordfish!

Please... tell me you were referring to the Dead Milkmen song and make me happy.

 

[shivadance]

Sorry, back to the topic...

I am a firm believer that there is the possibility of extra-terresterial life in the universe. Do I believe they have visited earth? It's always possible. Lots and lots of things are possible.

A really great book that a co-worker recommended is Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark.

Amazon.com: The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark (9780345409461): Carl Sagan, Ann Druyan: Books

I've always teetered on the edge of wanting to believe in pseudoscience. After this book though, I'm completely in the skeptical-but-if-there's-real-proof-I'd-like-to-see-it-and-believe-it category on UFO, telekenesis, ghosts, etc.

Honestly, it was a hard read for me. I just don't find that his style flows well for me and it was hard to digest more than a few pages at a time. But he turned me into a non-believer of pseudoscience. At least until there's proof.

Good topic, thanks!

 

[Zofryer]

He believes in swordfish!

Please... tell me you were referring to the Dead Milkmen song and make me happy.

The Dead Milkmen used to play for free at Dickinson College in Carlisle PA. In fact, the song "plum dumb" is about a urban legend about...... me.

six degrees. Love those guys. I cried my eyes out when Dave died.

 

[Zestok90]

Sorry, back to the topic...

I am a firm believer that there is the possibility of extra-terresterial life in the universe. Do I believe they have visited earth? It's always possible. Lots and lots of things are possible.

A really great book that a co-worker recommended is Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark.

Amazon.com: The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark (9780345409461): Carl Sagan, Ann Druyan: Books

I've always teetered on the edge of wanting to believe in pseudoscience. After this book though, I'm completely in the skeptical-but-if-there's-real-proof-I'd-like-to-see-it-and-believe-it category on UFO, telekenesis, ghosts, etc.

Honestly, it was a hard read for me. I just don't find that his style flows well for me and it was hard to digest more than a few pages at a time. But he turned me into a non-believer of pseudoscience. At least until there's proof.

Good topic, thanks!

This sounds like a book I might have to read.
Good thing I have one of those Kindels, hopefully I can read it right one there

 

[vaporich]

IF people want to generalize, and think we are the only planet and life form in the vast universe then let them, I believe theres more than we can imagine out there.

 

[Zestok90]

IF people want to generalize, and think we are the only planet and life form in the vast universe then let them, I believe theres more than we can imagine out there.

I honestly would not doubt it one bit. Even from the evidence on mars we've found stuff, not much but we did find evidence of water. Just imagine what else lies beyond our grasp.

 

[Zofryer]

There's a whole lot of science in this. There's a whole lot of statistical probability. Thank you Carl Sagan. Magnificent human being. However...... there's reality.

1) If a being was capable of interstellar travel, what the .... would we have to offer them?

Seriously. Other than being ungodly scary to them, what with our arcane reliance on fossil fuels (which would seem grizzly and pathetic to a being of that nature given how plentiful hydrogen is) and our incessant need to still use war as an economic boon (we do, admit it) and the fact we still rely on little green pieces of paper to motivate our masses, what exactly do we have to offer a being that can travel basically anywhere?

Nothing. We overestimate our value. If another intelligent life form possessed interstellar travel they wouldn't only ignore us, they'd find us beyond boring. I'm sorry. Suck it up.

 

[Zestok90]

There's a whole lot of science in this. There's a whole lot of statistical probability. Thank you Carl Sagan. Magnificent human being. However...... there's reality.

1) If a being was capable of interstellar travel, what the .... would we have to offer them?

Seriously. Other than being ungodly scary to them, what with our arcane reliance on fossil fuels (which would seem grizzly and pathetic to a being of that nature given how plentiful hydrogen is) and our incessant need to still use war as an economic boon (we do, admit it) and the fact we still rely on little green pieces of paper to motivate our masses, what exactly do we have to offer a being that can travel basically anywhere?

Nothing. We overestimate our value. If another intelligent life form possessed interstellar travel they wouldn't only ignore us, they'd find us beyond boring. I'm sorry. Suck it up.

This is true as well. Maybe we're like there entertainment.
Like they would probably have television shows on us. I mean we have movies like Ice Age, televion shows that have cavemen. Aliens probably watch humans for humor. Other than that were just inferior beings.

 

[shivadance]

I honestly would not doubt it one bit. Even from the evidence on mars we've found stuff, not much but we did find evidence of water. Just imagine what else lies beyond our grasp.

Heck, I really, really, REALLY hope there is. I would love to see evidence of other life in the universe in my lifetime.

 

[Zofryer]

This is true as well. Maybe we're like there entertainment.
Like they would probably have television shows on us. I mean we have movies like Ice Age, televion shows that have cavemen. Aliens probably watch humans for humor. Other than that were just inferior beings.

Potentially. Still, we aren't watching shows and movies about fire ants building bigass fire ant colonies and going YAY, THIS IS SO DAMN FUN WATCHING FIRE ANTS BUILD FIRE ANT COLONIES!!!

I seriously think that any actual intelligent life that has encountered this planet has taken a cursory look at it and said: ".... this" and kept on going. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point when we reach a certain level of technological sophistication, we will discover a beacon or probe at the outskirts of our solar system that is constantly broadcasting a ".... this" message to any wouldbe visitors. We are a type M planet. It's likely that we will end when we discover the mass of the higgs boson particle, and then accidentally shrink our planet to an object the size of a pea. Thank you LEXX for making that obvious.

 

[Zestok90]

Potentially. Still, we aren't watching shows and movies about fire ants building bigass fire ant colonies and going YAY, THIS IS SO DAMN FUN WATCHING FIRE ANTS BUILD FIRE ANT COLONIES!!!

I seriously think that any actual intelligent life that has encountered this planet has taken a cursory look at it and said: ".... this" and kept on going. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point when we reach a certain level of technological sophistication, we will discover a beacon or probe at the outskirts of our solar system that is constantly broadcasting a ".... this" message to any wouldbe visitors. We are a type M planet. It's likely that we will end when we discover the mass of the higgs boson particle, and then accidentally shrink our planet to an object the size of a pea. Thank you LEXX for making that obvious.

I watch fire ants build colonies...

 

[Zofryer]

I watch fire ants build colonies...

You need this:

Zofryer Speaks What if God simply doesn?t matter?

And this:

Captain Morgan Web site

And this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwyO6sCGEWE

 

[shivadance]

I watch fire ants build colonies...

Oh crap, I do too. What does that say about our intelligence level?

Makes me think about the movie Contact (well, not that it's the only movie with the message but I have Sagan on the brain) about how we are not ready.

I just disagree with those movies that say we have potential. Other than some art, liteature, music (which maybe won't be that cool to other aliens) I don't think we have a lot of potential, other than to kill our species off very, very effectively!

 

[Zestok90]

You need this:

Zofryer Speaks What if God simply doesn?t matter?

And this:

Captain Morgan Web site

And this:

YouTube - Pixies - Trompe Le Monde (live)

Haha I will read these.
And sorry Zofryer, I'm just poking fun.
No harm intended.

 

[Zestok90]

Oh crap, I do too. What does that say about our intelligence level?

Makes me think about the movie Contact (well, not that it's the only movie with the message but I have Sagan on the brain) about how we are not ready.

I just disagree with those movies that say we have potential. Other than some art, liteature, music (which maybe won't be that cool to other aliens) I don't think we have a lot of potential, other than to kill our species off very, very effectively!

Haha our intelliengence levels must be below fireants. To fireants buliding colnies is just another day, to us....its entertainment lol.

And yes, it is indeed about all we could do. How many nukes do we have? How many do we neeeed?
Before it was like a little race to see who could have more nukes. Thank gosh we made agreements to get rid of some...or did we????

 

[Crash]

"I want to believe"

 

[Robert]

We are the Aliens on this world or at least some sort of half breed alien / Chimp

and.......

I love the Pixies....enjoy my favorite song

YouTube - Pixies - Gouge Away (live)

 

[Zofryer]

We are the Aliens on this world or at least some sort of half breed alien / Chimp

and.......

I love the Pixies....enjoy my favorite song

youtube.com/watch?v=GnaPepTGcNU

My absolute favorite band ever. Here's my favorite.

youtube.com/watch?v=kdzoK5jwESM

 

[Zofryer]

Incidentally, This threadjack was brought to you with love.

Honestly.

 

[MissVapor]

Oh, I forgot to mention, one time I was driving through Madison, and all of a sudden I heard a huge crash and ground shook, sounded like a meteor or earthquake. After further driving through the city, In a small field the whole street was blocked off and in the distance I could see white vans that said NASA on it. The whole city felt it and heard the rumble. The news blamed on a small 1 person airplane crash. The city was very unbelieving as was I. nonetheless, there was no rubble or body found, not even a hole in the ground when I went to go check the next day. Looked awfully nice for a crash site.

That kind of story is way to common..reports of a crash..than the govt, military, nasa, men in black show up , clean up the site and the next day it is just a report of a weather balloon crash or some BS..