Do you keep your battery charger plugged into the wall?

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Warren D. Lockaby

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Yeah, I completely understand now. I don't know why I never really thought about it like that. I just assumed it would never fail.

A personal "rule of thumb" for me (I have many more of these than I have thumbs) is if it's made by man it will fail, and will probably die before I do just for spite.

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i've never had an issue with leaving other chargers plugged in... it shouldn't affect e-smoke chargers either

most newer chargers are not going to care if they are plugged in, as they are all solid-state devices and won't be in an 'on' mode unless there is something plugged into them - the usb type anyways. even other ones shouldn't really care though, as they are still solid-state and have no current running through the final stage of the electronics, which is where the real current would be. the current in the other stages is so minute that it shouldn't matter if it's running all the time
 

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What Kprice said. I leave them plugged in all the time. The more you plug and unplug them, the more strain you put on the cord, and some of them are quite cheap. The worst that happens is you're running a little LED light or two, but no real current is going through them. I have a couple chargers that have been plugged in continuously for over 5 years.

Lithium batteries come off when they're charged. NiMh's appreciate being kept on a charger that can give them a trickle charge. I have a whole rack of NiMh's that is always kept full and topped off.
 

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Unplug it and only charge when around it. Mine blew up lady night and took all the plugs around it with it

You have said this before, yet you said that the exact same thing happened as happened to a member whose cord failed at the plug. That is NOT having a charger "blow up". Also, have you checked your circuit breaker yet? I have a real hard time believing that it "took out all the plugs". What really happened is that it tripped your breaker when your cord failed, just like it's supposed to do. Your cord probably failed from plugging/unplugging it a million times. Go ahead and call an electrician. He will charge you $100 to come over, open a panel, flip a switch. Then, he'll snicker all the way out the door.

Battery chargers draw virtually nothing when they're just sitting there. They're solid state devices. It's far more dangerous to plug it in in the first place than to have it continuously plugged in. They don't just "blow up" when no current draw is induced. They can "blow up" when you put a battery in and start drawing current. Otherwise, they just sit there like your wall clock or your blow dryer or any number of other things that stay plugged in without being used..

I've been into flashlights, PV's, RC stuff for a long time. I've had dozens of chargers, from $5 to $300 models. I've never once heard of a charger just blowing up out of the blue when nothing is in it or it's not being plugged in. In either case, it is going from a 0 current draw to a current draw. That's what causes a device to "blow up".

If your charger doesn't blow up the first time you stick a battery in it, it probably never will. That is, unless you wear out the cord by constantly plugging and unplugging it.
 

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I'm a watt miser I don't leave anything plugged in when not in use all my electronics are on Belkin smart power strips they have a remote control switch so I can turn off the strip when not in use that way there is no phantom load sucking up my watts padding my electric bill

That's wise. Many things do draw a small amount even if they're off. Mostly though, that's DC adapters and your TV and stereo, which keep charged up so they can go on instantly. But to unplug stuff in some paranoid fear that they're just going to spring to life all by themselves and blow up is silly. What about refrigerators, water heaters, aquarium pumps, A/C fans, all those things don't blow up unless they're running. When was the last time you heard of a TV just "blowing up" when it was plugged in and turned off? You haven't. A charger is no different. Now, all these things can be damaged from a power surge, like from lightning. But that's a whole different issue.
 

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I didn't say they where going to blow up I said that they are drawing power and I didn't want to give anymore more money to Detroit Edison not sure how you came to the conclusion that I think my TV is going blow up.
That's wise. Many things do draw a small amount even if they're off. Mostly though, that's DC adapters and your TV and stereo, which keep charged up so they can go on instantly. But to unplug stuff in some paranoid fear that they're just going to spring to life all by themselves and blow up is silly. What about refrigerators, water heaters, aquarium pumps, A/C fans, all those things don't blow up unless they're running. When was the last time you heard of a TV just "blowing up" when it was plugged in and turned off? You haven't. A charger is no different. Now, all these things can be damaged from a power surge, like from lightning. But that's a whole different issue.
 

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hmm, never thought about it. ive had mine plugged in since the day i got it and often put batts on to charge over night or if i leave. this says the person who has many fish tanks running fairly high power lights on some along with filters, heaters, air pumps, ect and also a yard full of lights and air blown stuff half the year it seems,lol. yes, my electric bill is pretty high. other than the vacuum cleaner i cant think of alot we use that has ever been unplugged.
 

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I didn't say they where going to blow up I said that they are drawing power and I didn't want to give anymore more money to Detroit Edison not sure how you came to the conclusion that I think my TV is going blow up.

I didn't. I wasn't referring to you. sorry if you thought I was. I was agreeing that it's good to unplug stuff that draws current while it's just sitting there. TV's are one of those things, but I bet nobody unplugs those.

What I meant was that I hear a lot of people 'round here who seem to think that their appliances or chargers are just going to spontaneously explode if they leave them plugged in. They're often the same people who wouldn't dream of unplugging their stereo every time they turn it off. That's silly.
 

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I have had a bad habit of keeping my batteries plugged in almost all the time. After reading this thread I am going to change that and keep them unplugged when they don't need to be.

Don't bother. Just take the batteries out. It's more dangerous to be unplugging and plugging a charger than it is to leave it plugged in. Things fail when they have a sudden change in state. Notice how anytime something shorts or blows up is always when power or a load is applied?

There's probably a light or two on your charger. A LED that draws 2/1000 of a watt per hour. At $0.20/killowatt hour, it costs you about $0.0014/month for it to run 24/7. Big Whoop. You lose that much in A/C going in and out the front door a couple times.
 
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Unplug it when not in use. I had a cord on one of my go poof...watched the short go all the way up it. The charger itself was unharmed but the cable was toast. All of it hit the trash. If I wouldn't have been home, my house would have burned down.

This is interesting. How long had it been plugged in when that happened? Awhile? Or did it happen just as it was plugged in or when you put a battery in it?
 

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i've never had an issue with leaving other chargers plugged in... it shouldn't affect e-smoke chargers either

most newer chargers are not going to care if they are plugged in, as they are all solid-state devices and won't be in an 'on' mode unless there is something plugged into them - the usb type anyways. even other ones shouldn't really care though, as they are still solid-state and have no current running through the final stage of the electronics, which is where the real current would be. the current in the other stages is so minute that it shouldn't matter if it's running all the time

What Kprice said. I leave them plugged in all the time. The more you plug and unplug them, the more strain you put on the cord, and some of them are quite cheap. The worst that happens is you're running a little LED light or two, but no real current is going through them. I have a couple chargers that have been plugged in continuously for over 5 years.

Lithium batteries come off when they're charged. NiMh's appreciate being kept on a charger that can give them a trickle charge. I have a whole rack of NiMh's that is always kept full and topped off.

You can always keep the charger in the wall, I just wouldn't advise keeping a battery in it all the time.

All this is based on if your Charger is doing what it is Supposed to do and that it was Designed Properly.

Unfortunately, Electronics Fail and Extremely Cheap Components and Questionable Quality Control is used to Mass Produce Many e-Cigarette Chargers and Batteries. That and Knock-Off products slip into the Market Constantly.

I'm glad you guys have had no Problems with your Batteries or Chargers. Regrettably, there are Many members here on the ECF that haven't been so Lucky.

BTW - I'm curious how many People's chargers have a UL Logo on them?
 
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