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Those of us who are frequent victims of shiny-itis often like them 'bells and whistles.' Now that I have a device (IPV4) capable of both VW and TC, the convenience of buying Ni-200 coils to drop into a sub-ohm tank is a plus. While I have a half-dozen or so mechs plus RTAs and RBAs, my eyesight and the ability to work with teensy coils ain't so hot any more. I welcome this technology and the easier it is to use, the better (IMO personal HO)
 

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how important is it to have temp control? I'm looking for my next mod and was wondering if it's a must have. I'm a tootle puffer btw. Also to you HAVE to use a tank w nickel or titanium coils?
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Yes you need a TC mod even if you dont use NI or TI coils why? Because thats what the cool kids have. If you dont order one soon you will die a horrible death. So even if you have no self preservation instincts, buy one for your family they would miss you its the most unselfish thing you can do!
 

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how important is it to have temp control? I'm looking for my next mod and was wondering if it's a must have. I'm a tootle puffer btw. Also to you HAVE to use a tank w nickel or titanium coils?
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I think Temperature Control is where All e-Cigarettes will end up. Either thru Regulations or Consumer Choice. I see Good Advantages for Most Vapers.

But like most Emerging Technologies, I don't think the 1st Gen TC Devices are there yet.

Here is a set of Phil Vids that does a Pretty Good job of Explaining TC. But the Pro's, and the Con's.



 

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I think temperature control is the next thing to happen within the vaping community, but ultimately I think it's going to be unnecessary and something I don't see me using until it's universally accepted and these become cheaper (not dropping $160+ on a vapor shark with only 40 watts).
 
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I think temperature control is the next thing to happen within the vaping community, but ultimately I think it's going to be unnecessary and something I don't see me using until it's universally accepted and these become cheaper (not dropping $160+ on a vapor shark with only 40 watts).

I'm starting to see the First Wave of Evolv Clones starting to come out for $50 ~ $75. No Clue if they are any good or even Work. But they have Started to arrive.

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TC may never be Universally Excepted. But FDA Regs may require it down the Road. Some OEM's may have to move to TC if they want to sell an APV marketed as an "e-Cigarette".
 

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I think temperature control is the next thing to happen within the vaping community, but ultimately I think it's going to be unnecessary and something I don't see me using until it's universally accepted and these become cheaper (not dropping $160+ on a vapor shark with only 40 watts).
There is a lot more to a Vaporshark then just watts. It's a buck-boost chip and DC-DC converter meaning it's accuracy is right there with ProVari. Most of your cheap mods can either buck or boost but can't do both and are PWM instead of DC-DC.

You also don't need a lot of watts when working with nickel for temp control. But if power and affordability is what you want, there is always the IPV4.

I own the Vaporshark rDNA 40 which is built very well, has wireless charging capabilities and when charging via USB will fully charge your battery in 90 minutes.

I also own the SX Mini M Class which will give you a bit more power for temperature control, does 60w with a normal kanthal vape and 120w if you use the battery extension tube. There is also an update coming soon which will bring it to 150w.

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I didn't jump initially because of my success with mech mods. Coil building isn't difficult, and winding coils of all types to go in all types of tanks (I've got TOO many) seemed to be second nature. I was always fascinated by temp control with all intentions of trying it out. Finally broke down when the clones came out and got a v3 flask. After that I must let the results speak.

I'm gonna get another VT mod. Don't know which one yet. V-tek had a Lost Vapes unit on pre-order for just over a hundred bucks, but I don't really pre-order. Thought I'd wait. They're now about 160, and still never had them in stock yet. Just noticed they are coming out with the Evic Lt. With a 5000 mah listed capacity, I think I'll check out how this one gets along. They've got it for pre-order (I call BS) for 69.....wait, they just raised it to 72.....no stock. If it reviews well, I'll find it from someplace.

Don't really need temp. But I like vaping with it. 40 watts or so will make a pretty good cloud if I want it. Plus I can toddle puff if I want to. And it always works perfectly. And all my other mods, mech or regulated, are patiently watching me from the shelf. They're lonely now.
 
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I imagine similar conversations were happening when automatic transmissions first became widely available. Up until that point, everyone got by on manual trannies and life was good. Did people sometimes stall their engines from a dead stop? Sure. Did they sometimes throw it into the wrong gear? Absolutely. Did they sometimes accidentally roll backward into the car behind them when trying to start on a steep incline? Unfortunately, yeah that happened too. It didn't really matter though, because we got from Point A to Point B faster than with a horse, there was a lot less horse sheet on the streets, and our calf muscles got nice an toned after an hour of stop-and-go traffic. :lol:

Then along came automatic transmissions. Suddenly, brand new drivers weren't hit with a dose of anxiety every time the light turned green and starting from a dead stop on a massive hill in San Francisco was a breeze. We didn't need automatic transmissions when they hit the scene, but they were a "nice to have". Cut to 2015 and now the vast majority of new cars on the market are automatics.

I suspect TC will follow the same trajectory but of course, only time will tell.

That said, as a motorcycle guy I still love being in complete control of my transmission but when I'm stuck in my car on the 405 during rush hour, man that automatic tranny is a great thing to have.
 

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That said, as a motorcycle guy I still love being in complete control of my transmission but when I'm stuck in my car on the 405 during rush hour, man that automatic tranny is a great thing to have.
you mean the 4 o 5 hours freeway? There is a few places worse to drive in Frisco NY and Manilla but not buy much
 

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There is a lot more to a Vaporshark then just watts. It's a buck-boost chip and DC-DC converter meaning it's accuracy is right there with ProVari. Most of your cheap mods can either buck or boost but can't do both and are PWM instead of DC-DC.

You also don't need a lot of watts when working with nickel for temp control. But if power and affordability is what you want, there is always the IPV4.

I own the Vaporshark rDNA 40 which is built very well, has wireless charging capabilities and when charging via USB will fully charge your battery in 90 minutes.

I also own the SX Mini M Class which will give you a bit more power for temperature control, does 60w with a normal kanthal vape and 120w if you use the battery extension tube. There is also an update coming soon which will bring it to 150w.

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I definitely plan on checking out the IPV 4 when the demand for it wanes down a little bit.
 

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It's all about the wiring of the rda. With temperature control you get wires like nickel and titanium. I have used nickel on the Yihi SX Mini 350J, the e liquid is a little more complex but not so much that buying a $200 regulated mod like the Yihi should solely be the reason behind a temp control unit. (I have yet to purchase titanium, but I will in due time). Also the wires will disperse heat faster as opposed to kanthal. You must ask yourself if throwing in an extra $100 (or sometimes more) is worth the experience...because a Sigelei 150 watt these days will run for about $80 or so (without temperature control) and you can still get an awesome experience (this too is from experience).

I hope this helps.
 

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I think TC will be a basic feature on all but the cheapest electronic devices within a year or so.

While I'm not entirely on the TC-train, I don't really see a reason to get a new mod without TC. Not like you have to use it. Why not have the option to at least try it?

For someone who only use mechanical mods (so far), temperature control is actually the best/only valid argument for getting anything but a mechanical - for the way I vape. Others like things differently and for them other arguments are also valid.
 
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While I'm not entirely on the TC-train, I don't really see a reason to get a new mod without TC. Not like you have to use it. Why not have the option to at least try it?
I can give you a reason.
I am not going to use subohm coils (I do not believe inhaling of high volumes of juice is harmless).
So, in its current state TC is useless for me.
 
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