Do you now find that smokers stink?

[clyde2801]

Sorry, but your repetition of this garbage gives ammunition to the anti-smokers. If you think that the same words will not come back to describe vapers, then you are fooling yourself. It is creeping in day by day...look at the "third hand smoke" study and the crafty inclusion of e cigs in that study. The vaping/smoking issue is indeed one and the same. I find the use of anti-smokers rhetoric more troubling in ex-smokers and vapers than I do in non-smokers. You will become your own worst enemy by repeating this garbage.

Comparing studies of dubious standards to what someone actually smells is intellectual dishonesty on your part, isn't it? And as for rhetoric, according to dictionary.com, it is defined as:
1.) (in writing or speech) the undue use of exaggeration or display; bombast.

(i.e., calling a fact or opinion 'garbage' or 'rhetoric' because you disagree with it).

I'm not making the argument pro or con whether second hand smoke causes cancer, I'm making a statement, that upon vaping for an extended period, I find stale smoke to occasionally stink.

 

[sherid]

Comparing studies of dubious standards to what someone actually smells is intellectual dishonesty on your part, isn't it? And as for rhetoric, according to dictionary.com, it is defined as:
1.) (in writing or speech) the undue use of exaggeration or display; bombast.

(i.e., calling a fact or opinion 'garbage' or 'rhetoric' because you disagree with it).

I'm not making the argument pro or con whether second hand smoke causes cancer, I'm making a statement, that upon vaping for an extended period, I find stale smoke to occasionally stink.

It's good that you can now avoid the smell you now dislike. Why do you feel it necessary to post your aversion to the smell of stale smoke? Such posting aligns you with the anti-smokers who will be all over you as a vaper because vapers stink too. That may not be so, but it won't matter if it is true. Putting the idea out there and having anti-smokers repeat it will be all it takes. The anti-smokers are terrified of e cigs because they are not made by the drug companies who pay their salaries and give them money for junk studies to promote their cause.

 

[clyde2801]

It's good that you can now avoid the smell you now dislike. Why do you feel it necessary to post your aversion to the smell of stale smoke? Such posting aligns you with the anti-smokers who will be all over you as a vaper because vapers stink too. That may not be so, but it won't matter if it is true. Putting the idea out there and having anti-smokers repeat it will be all it takes. The anti-smokers are terrified of e cigs because they are not made by the drug companies who pay their salaries and give them money for junk studies to promote their cause.

Because frankly, it surprises me, and this is a forum for vapers. The fanatical born again breathers will either jump or not jump all over vaping irregardless of what I post here. Sorry, I have long given up thinking that I am that important. And I shall align myself, Sir, with whomever I choose to. That is with the vapers.

And using a little consideration, manners and common sense, I have NEVER had a non smoker confront me about vaping in a non smoking area. Not once. Part of the reason why, I suspect, is that vaping does not stink anywhere nearly as bad as burning tobacco does.

 

[TheRealZero]

Sorry, but your repetition of this garbage gives ammunition to the anti-smokers. If you think that the same words will not come back to describe vapers, then you are fooling yourself. It is creeping in day by day...look at the "third hand smoke" study and the crafty inclusion of e cigs in that study. The vaping/smoking issue is indeed one and the same. I find the use of anti-smokers rhetoric more troubling in ex-smokers and vapers than I do in non-smokers. You will become your own worst enemy by repeating this garbage.
"
The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force." Adolph Hitler

Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TheRealZero]

I definitely notice the smell 200% more now...I don't think I have the authority to let it be known that it bothers me though given the fact that I am an ex-stinker. Plus it makes you sound whiny.

Still love the smell a lit DuMarier though....or players.....mmmmm.....

 

[jennlsnoopy]

I can always tell when someone has smoked recently. I also notice when I come home from the casino I can smell smoke on me. It's sad to think I used to smell like that all the time. It was probably pretty bad considering I used to smoke in my house.

 

[sherid]

Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can't handle the truth?

 

[sherid]

Because frankly, it surprises me, and this is a forum for vapers. The fanatical born again breathers will either jump or not jump all over vaping irregardless of what I post here. Sorry, I have long given up thinking that I am that important. And I shall align myself, Sir, with whomever I choose to. That is with the vapers.

And using a little consideration, manners and common sense, I have NEVER had a non smoker confront me about vaping in a non smoking area. Not once. Part of the reason why, I suspect, is that vaping does not stink anywhere nearly as bad as burning tobacco does.

They haven't confronted you YET. Here is one example of where ASH is going with e-cigs,
FDA Reports "Acute Health Risks" From E-Cigarettes // Many Dangers Are Admitted By The Manufacturers
Vapers, BTW, are simply yesterday's smokers.