Do you think it might be a "tough guy" thing?

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It is harder to get the older ones to change - my father in law is 63 and has had part of a lung removed from smoking - I have tried to get him to stop but he just doesn't like the vape - I have tried about everything - I guess it is just not for everyone - he says he is a smoker and that is that - what can you do - bring a horse to water and all that - right ?
 

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My husband and I started vaping 5 months ago. Thankfully, I took to it like a fish to water and have been “smoke free” since. My husband on the other hand started good but still stuck with the stinkies which he said at the time we started he would never buy a pack of them again. He was a chain smoker so I thought it would take a while but now he’s gradually going back to where he started not quite chain smoking but I know he’s smoking a lot more. I was more of a closet smoker but still managed to smoke a PAD. I asked my husband if he would try some other stuff to help him like the snuff and he said “no way, that stuff causes mouth cancer”…..dugh. The other night we went to the fair and he said please don’t be vaping while we’re in there, I said no problem if you don’t smoke in there. My husband is pretty much of a “redneck”…he’s into motorcycles, hunting, fishing, guns and four wheelin. He is a welder in a factory where he inhales welding smoke all day. He’s almost 60 years old.

My question is do you think it might be because he thinks vaping makes him look like a sissy? I know a lot of guys are on here and I’m wanting to help my husband. We’ve been married a very long time and his health is suffering from smoking. He saw the benefits of not smoking when he was mostly vaping and even commented on how much more he could walk and how this hunting season would be so much better walking mountains.

Any suggestions on how to help him would be appreciated. I found out the hard way “harping” on him didn’t help.:confused:
Get him a axis box mod and a black tobh v3 rda and he will be sissy no more!!

But I could see how a ego style setup could be sissy like

But when he is on the operating room table who will be the sissy then when yoy cant even say your name because your to winded?

Juuusss saying :)
 

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It is harder to get the older ones to change - my father in law is 63 and has had part of a lung removed from smoking - I have tried to get him to stop but he just doesn't like the Vape - I have tried about everything - I guess it is just not for everyone - he says he is a smoker and that is that - what can you do - bring a horse to water and all that - right ?

HEY!!! I resemble that remark (being 63), you young wippersnapper you, now get off my lawn!....:laugh:
 

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Nothing sissy abt it. I a man. Just have him take a look at Stanton Glandtz, (sissy) that should cure him. Glandtz is afraid of breathing air unless he examines it. <<<< Pretty close. And Glandtz not only doesnt smoke or vape, he is alarmed by those who do.
or:


If that doesnt work just do like my grandmother used to do to my grandpa when he was drunk, she would hit him with a stick, and make him sleep out in his shack.

or:

May just need a Innokin Cool Fire 2, looks like a hand grenade and comes in 'Jungle Camo" color. Certainly not sissy looking.

just do what Stosh said.

There now, you got three possible solutions, if that dont work, come back for more.

yeah I def think that you are right on, plus, who knows your husband better than you? ;)

uh huh.

LOL add a metal music accessory and you're good to go

yeah that too, and whatever you do, throw the Boy George album out of the house.

Conversely, I doubt you'd have been impressed if your husband came home with an EVOD starter kit for himself, and one of these for you:




and if that picture dont get him over the idea of it being sissy nothing will.


That is both shocking and amazing. Its like a WWI gas mask, not a bad idea>>>>> very manly. True she wouldnt have been impressed if he brought that home, but I am.
Maybe she can just put a bag over his head and blow some vape in there. perhaps reasonable solutions first.
 

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Did you buy him a big, manly mech with a manly looking aerotank mega on top? If he's got a little blue ego with a mini protank on top he might feel like a "sissy" lol. Just a thought, I had no problem dropping 'analogs'.

See, I kinda think the opposite. I'd suggest something that looks the most like a cigarette you can find (like an eRoll). Invites less questions and from a distance, no one knows the difference (especially if you buy the white one). Take it from someone who is a bit older too (I'm 45), there's nothing "cool" about a big PV unless you know what you're looking at, and most people over 40 don't. LOL
 

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I'm 5 foot 7 and 160 pounds and extremely tuff with my e-Huge and Kanger Giant:

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Well, if it is a "tough guy" thing, you might want to remind him quitting cigarettes takes a tougher guy than one who continues smoking, and if it is the looks he is concerned about, it also takes a tougher guy to do his own thing and not give a swut what other people think about them doing it, than to sheepishly give in because other people might frown on it.
Just :2c:
 

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Get him a axis box mod and a black tobh v3 rda and he will be sissy no more!!

But I could see how a ego style setup could be sissy like

But when he is on the operating room table who will be the sissy then when yoy cant even say your name because your to winded?

Juuusss saying :)

A woman friend at work who is responsible for me starting vaping told me (when I was worried I might look like a sissy):

"Buy a Pink battery, Learn to fight, and get on with saving your life" - that kinda did the trick.

I want him to stop smoking not end up in jail!! OR on a operating table!
 
I was a heavy smoker for twenty years and wanted to switch but couldn't get the same relaxing feeling from vaping. I had to quit using the patch and gradually adjust to vaping. I quickly graduated to VV/VW and clearomizers back when CE3s were the only cheap solution. As vaping technology has advanced I have switched to mechs and RDA's. These advanced PV's are great for me but make smokers cough and choke even at low nicotine levels. I recently helped my little brother get a MVP V2 and he is able to use it with high nicotine levels and substitute it for cigarettes. He still smokes though. I'm not sure what the perfect formula is. It's different for each person. Sounds like he feels there is a stigma to vaping like it's for sissy's and women and needs to be exposed to some tougher vapers. A vape meet might be the answer where he can find some people to relate to. I'm of the mind that if it's healthier I'll give it more than just one chance. Make smoking cigarettes as uncomfortable and difficult as you can. No smoking in the house, the car or in restaurants. Put your foot down and show him there are literally hundreds of different vaping possibilities out there. Good luck and let us know how it goes!
 

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I was a heavy smoker for twenty years and wanted to switch but couldn't get the same relaxing feeling from vaping. I had to quit using the patch and gradually adjust to vaping. I quickly graduated to VV/VW and clearomizers back when CE3s were the only cheap solution. As vaping technology has advanced I have switched to mechs and RDA's. These advanced PV's are great for me but make smokers cough and choke even at low nicotine levels. I recently helped my little brother get a MVP V2 and he is able to use it with high nicotine levels and substitute it for cigarettes. He still smokes though. I'm not sure what the perfect formula is. It's different for each person. Sounds like he feels there is a stigma to vaping like it's for sissy's and women and needs to be exposed to some tougher vapers. A vape meet might be the answer where he can find some people to relate to. I'm of the mind that if it's healthier I'll give it more than just one chance. Make smoking cigarettes as uncomfortable and difficult as you can. No smoking in the house, the car or in restaurants. Put your foot down and show him there are literally hundreds of different vaping possibilities out there. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Oh NO smoking in the house, car or jeep. He doesn't smoke near me because I told him I want no part of it!! He washes his face before he kisses me too because I don't want to smell that junk anymore EVER...I think the first bad cold he gets this winter will be enough to make him go to all vaping. The B&M that we go to has some weird guys in there all the time, they are young and cloud chasers which we have no problem with but that's the place where we saw the guy with the gernade type device.
 

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I know right Lurch.....I don't understand how my husband can vape and smoke. I think I would puke if I smoked now. My husband is pretty good about not smoking around me now but does some. He enjoys vaping while watching TV at night. Hopefully this winter will be enough to make him stay inside and vape instead of smoking outside.

That's exactly what my wife does!!! We always smoked outside on the back porch (covered) and. living it Florida, it rarely gets too cold to go out, so that regretfully won't work for her!

Good luck!
 

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Just throwing this out there, and I obviously don't know your husband, but it is possible that "sissy"/"tough-guy" are not exactly the right descriptors of his perception of the issue. It trying to appeal to his outlook, getting the connotation wrong could make you completely miss the target on solutions.

Even in working through my own outlook on vaping when I first started, I mistook the connotation of what I was feeling and thought that the issue I had vaping in front of other people was a fear of looking like a sissy. It took me a while to realize that that was not exactly right, subtle as the difference might be, and I couldn't even begin working myself up to vaping in public until I realized what the real issue was.

My issue is that I have an aversion to vanity, a quality often associated with "sissies". I don't like showing off possessions or in style. I don't mind performing a skill that I am good at with an audience, but I shudder at the possibility of someone thinking I am vain or proud. I like things plain, simple, durable, and honest. I drink my coffee black, beer from a bottle even in restaurants, when a box of doughnuts is passed around, I'll never take the one with sprinkles. I buy my vehicles in black, white, or gray, and have scuffed and painted over brand new chrome parts because I thought they were too flashy. Of course, I prefer simplistic styling but, if I'm being honest with myself, I have to admit that a big part of it is that I don't want to come off like I am trying to draw attention to myself.

I'm not all that unique. A lot of men that I know are like me. How this translated to vaping was that I smoked the same thing my friends did, namely simple cigarettes that could be fished out of your damp pockets, from a worn out paper box, be lit with a common lighter or match, and smoked without a second thought to method or technique.

Vaping gear, no matter how simple you make it, it infinitely flashier than cigarettes. Even if just by the fact that the have leds and clicking buttons. They are more complicated to put together and run optimally, and, when no one else around you is using them, using one openly feels like you're showing off. I still feel a little out of place around some friends, many of whom have taken up roll-your-own in an attempt to get a healthier alternative, and I'm the weirdo with the techie, gear-heavy solution.

I don't know what the answer is. When I find my solution, I'll let you know. Certainly, it would be easier to fly under the radar with if more people did it, but it's important not to confuse the issue with the popularity aspect. It is about needing to blend in, it is about not wanting to appear to wish to stand out.
 

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Here is what you do: Slip a sleeping pill in his Scotch while he is watching TV. When he wakes up, he'll find he is tied to his chair. Ask him what his problem is with vaping. If he doesn't admit it's a tough guy thing, then hit the button on the DVD player. On the TV will appear "The Notebook", the one movie proven to break all men's wills. He'll eventually fold and tell you whats up. It may take a minute, 10 minutes, even a hour but no man can make it through "The Notebook." It's man kryptonite, we have to get away from it.
 

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My husband and I started vaping 5 months ago. Thankfully, I took to it like a fish to water and have been “smoke free” since. My husband on the other hand started good but still stuck with the stinkies which he said at the time we started he would never buy a pack of them again. He was a chain smoker so I thought it would take a while but now he’s gradually going back to where he started not quite chain smoking but I know he’s smoking a lot more. I was more of a closet smoker but still managed to smoke a PAD. I asked my husband if he would try some other stuff to help him like the snuff and he said “no way, that stuff causes mouth cancer”…..dugh. The other night we went to the fair and he said please don’t be vaping while we’re in there, I said no problem if you don’t smoke in there. My husband is pretty much of a “redneck”…he’s into motorcycles, hunting, fishing, guns and four wheelin. He is a welder in a factory where he inhales welding smoke all day. He’s almost 60 years old.

My question is do you think it might be because he thinks vaping makes him look like a sissy? I know a lot of guys are on here and I’m wanting to help my husband. We’ve been married a very long time and his health is suffering from smoking. He saw the benefits of not smoking when he was mostly vaping and even commented on how much more he could walk and how this hunting season would be so much better walking mountains.

Any suggestions on how to help him would be appreciated. I found out the hard way “harping” on him didn’t help.:confused:

Tell him to pull his ovaries out and call them balls again. Then take him dress shopping.

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