Does all liquids losing flavor on more than 10W ?

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VapinSweetZ

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Ok you're all makes sense :) so I guess different coils and builds (coil designs) may effect differently the final result (temperature) even if the thermal power production is the same (same watts).

The question is if eliquid in general have a range of heat degree that it produce the best flavor with, and if different liquid ingredients (100% pg vs 100% vg for example) have a different heat range for best flavor production (best = strongest natural flavor, not strong burnt taste lol).
 
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The question is if eliquid in general have a range of heat degree that it produce the best flavor with, and if different liquid ingredients (100% pg vs 100% vg for example) have a different heat range for best flavor production (best = strongest natural flavor, not strong burnt taste lol).
The problem with your quest (though valid) is the word "flavor". It's too subjective for anyone to agree on what it means. We all taste things differently.

I suppose one could figure out scientifically on a molecular level at what temperature certain additives seem to bond better to a "base" thereby giving different combinations of "flavor"... but then you're back to what flavor is best for everyone. (Which can't be answered).
 

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Burned to a crisp is a flavor too. With 15 watts thru an iclear 16 you can't tell the difference between a $40 bottle of castle long reserve and a $4 bottle of dekang. See it can save money

I found a way to get the Same Taste but with Lower Voltage.

I just buy Burnt Marshmallow flavored e-Liquid.
 

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My e-Liquids do Not Lose their flavor at 10W or More. In Fact, they take on a Whole New Flavor.

The New Flavor is Hard to Explain. But this is About the Closest I can Describe it.

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LOL, this is one reason high power vaping will never be for everyone. You need to know how to set up the atty so this ^^^ doesn't happen ;)

OTOH, every once in a while I've got a dry hit at 30 watts. This ^^^ is mild compared to that experience. Hasn't happened for a good long time now because I'm so cautious about it. This is one reason I think people should not dive right into high power vaping without getting some general vaping experience first. It's not just about the batteries.
 

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Matters a lot more about airflow, and some liquids just can't take heat regardless. Some flavors come out more at different power levels.

I've found 17-40 watts to be my range.. if I go higher than that, I have to have so much airflow it kills the flavor... but that's good for lung hits.

37, ph0n3 h0m3.
 

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The whole wattage thing is a misleading concept if you don't have a little experience with the different toppers. On a Mini Protank 2 @ 2.2 ohm more than 8-9 watts would burn a lot of my juices. In my scar on a k100 with a .3 ohm coil (1 strand of 28 gauge and 2 32 gauge twisted)I can put any amount of power to it. I've never had the burnt flavor unless I let it go dry. Flavor is strong from beginning t end. Also I have a 3/16th airhole.
 

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Ok you're all makes sense :) so I guess different coils and builds (coil designs) may effect differently the final result (temperature) even if the thermal power production is the same (same watts).

The question is if eliquid in general have a range of heat degree that it produce the best flavor with, and if different liquid ingredients (100% pg vs 100% vg for example) have a different heat range for best flavor production (best = strongest natural flavor, not strong burnt taste lol).

I don't believe temperature is the issue here. My 30 watt vapes are no hotter than my 8 watt vapes, just make a lot more vapor and flavor. Water does not get any hotter when it's at a high watt fast boil compared to a low watt slow boil. Juice should be the same thing as long as the coil is kept wet. Once the coil looses enough juice coverage to soak up the heat the temperature will rise and rise fast at high power levels.
 

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think of watts on your coil and BTU's similarly.

a small 5000 BTU grill might cook up some tasty burgers in a jiffy. put that same 5000 BTUs in a drafty apartment on a 30°F day and you may never get warm without a comforter and a snuggy.

same thing with watts vs wire gauge and airflow. high gauge wire with little airflow will cook your juice to serious disgusting real quick. insert high air flow and low gauge wire with the same wattage and you may be begging for enough heat to make vapor.
 
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